rattlesnake

It's not just about diet. The introduction of clean water and sanitation systems was pivotal in increasing life expectancy.

This is the guy who chickened out when RFK Jr. challenged him to a debate. If he's such a hot shot and RFK is such a loony, he should have taken the opportunity to humiliate him and show the world how "science" is so far superior to "conspiracy theories". It's more likely he was afraid of being exposed for what he is, a hypocritical Pfizer sales rep with lots of dubious interests. The title of his book is very telling and encouraging. The pharmaceutical establishment can feel the tide is turning and that is a very good thing.

And he looks pretty unhealthy. This guy obviously has no clue about health.

So your rationale is that it was worth it?

True. The vast majority of people just did it so they could work and put food on the table. Even here in Thailand, the honest, simple, hard-working people just did it because the authorities told them it was the right thing to do and it was either that or get fired. I do feel for them as lots of them are injured. I recently watched a video where a Thai guy explains the vaccine uptake has dropped significantly in the country due to obvious injury and death. The most compelling thing is the comment section: there are currently over 2,000 comments by people saying they are suffering in various ways, constant fatigue, joint pain, rashes, limb pain, always sick… as well as testimonies about loved ones dying or bedridden. It is, quite frankly, heartbreaking. Of course, the vax proponents refuse to look at that type of source. "Not approved", you see… There are none so blind as those who will not see.

What the governments did was one thing. But none of this would have been possible without the active participation of the ordinary citizens who condoned and facilitated authoritarianism, segregation and discrimination in the strictest sense of the terms. I said from the very beginning that I felt this forced injection was not right and that there was cause for concern in many respects, and was subject to extraordinary abuse and pressure. The further the government went down the authoritarian, segregation and discrimination road, the more the “good, abiding citizens” condoned and aided it, without batting an eyelid. There are countless examples on this forum, and I am adding a few examples below. What are the lessons to be learnt from this? Well, those who are familiar with Stanley Milgram’s work (as yours truly is) did not find it all that surprising. But forgiveness? Now that is a tricky one indeed, as those people now saying “it’s all behind us”, “let’s move on”, “nobody was forced to do anything” etc. are the ones who would have gleefully watched me getting arrested and forcefully injected (which was advocated by several heads of State and media outlets at the peak of the crisis). https://aseannow.com/topic/1249061-are-we-just-going-to-have-to-live-with-unvaccinated-people-across-thailand/?do=findComment&comment=17165049 https://aseannow.com/topic/1240027-anutin-speaks-out-on-the-unvaccinated-possibly-facing-restrictions/?do=findComment&comment=16990342 https://aseannow.com/topic/1240027-anutin-speaks-out-on-the-unvaccinated-possibly-facing-restrictions/?do=findComment&comment=16990711

I agree with all your points except one: the WHO has not lost its way. This offshoot of the UN (ex League of Nations) was always about establishing a supranational world order. I see sovereignty as the main contemporary issue. Nations and individuals need their sovereignty back.

Some deadly pandemic, eh?

No clue, but never infected (nor were any of the people I know who did the same). Life is unfair, Steve, I should have died ten times in horrible pain, screaming "why did I not get the jab" in my final throes, and yet here I am, fit as a fiddle.

I have a similar experience with this forum. I have been living here since 2009, but hardly ever used it, until two years ago when I just couldn't just sit there and let them get away with the stuff they were saying (forced vaccination is the only way to get over this, the unvaxxed are nutcases, a danger, they shouldn't be allowed in hospitals, should be deported etc.). I have screenshots of the worst ones. In radical times, people reveal themselves unequivocally.

I have been following the Zelenko protocol daily for 3 years and I am pretty sure that's what prevented me from catching it (or anything else for that matter): zinc, quercetin, vitamin C, vitamin D. Also NAC and turmeric. This whole Covid episode revealed quite a few Gestapo wannabes, in real life and virtually.

Wise words, Owl.

Reminds me of pharma giant Bayer, a former subsidiary of IG Farben, which produced Zyklon B for the nazis. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bayer

Considering you obviously don't know what you are talking about, yes. A few examples: Inhibition of the Binding of Variants of SARS-CoV-2 Coronavirus Spike Protein to a Human Receptor by Chlorine Dioxide https://www.remedypublications.com/open-access/inhibition-of-the-binding-of-variants-of-sars-cov-2-coronavirus-spike-7364.pdf "These findings show that chlorine dioxide aqueous solution can inactivate the binding of the variant spike proteins to the human ACE2 receptor protein, indicating that this strategy may be useful in blocking the transmission of variant SARS-CoV-2 viruses." Protective effect of low-concentration chlorine dioxide gas against influenza A virus infection https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/18089729/ Evaluation of the antiviral activity of chlorine dioxide and sodium hypochlorite against feline calicivirus, human influenza virus, measles virus, canine distemper virus, human herpesvirus, human adenovirus, canine adenovirus and canine parvovirus https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/20616431/

"Take another course of Ivermectin." I have a full box of it but have never used it as I have never caught Covid.

As expected, and as always when Covid vax proponents are offered to see the damage done by the jab, you have refused. This is perfectly understandable, as it would instantly burst your bubble of falsehood. These are real people, not statistics, slogans or sweeping third-party statements. The record shows that you had the opportunity to read about thousands of Covid jab injuries and refused to do so.

"Are you also a supporter of the "America's Frontline Doctors", the discredited anti-vax mob, or perhaps believe in ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine "treatments", or perhaps you believe the 2020 USA election was stolen?" Yes to all of these questions. "Whichever one, you fit nicely into the conspiracy theory numb nuts". Yes, I have addressed this aspect in this thread. Here is a question for you: I can send you sources where thousands of people testify of their Covid jab injuries and speak of their regrets of having accepted this forced procedure, which has done considerable damage to their health. One of the biggest problems these people face is that nobody even wants to listen to them. I can't post these sources here as this forum considers them "unapproved". Are you interested in receiving them via PM?

"The problem is the insane ones…" As long as you don't break free of that mindset which leads you to systematically attack the opposing party's mental abilities, your relevance will remain extremely limited.

It is important, though, to distinguish the signifier and the signified, i.e. understand the difference between a term's literal meaning and what it actually conveys. Yes, "antivaxxer" is generally a derogatory term with associated stigma. In the collective mind, this term brings to mind ideas of psychological and even mental illness, along with other less than desirable traits and attributes. These associations were fabricated over time using very effective means of communication and influence. But to end on a more positive note, it seems this Overton window is shifting rapidly, and the Covid years were pivotal in this respect.

Such wit! I'm checkmated.

A miracle, no less! So where do pharma believers practice their faith? Vaccination centers?

Such hyperbolic language! Perhaps you should temper your starry-eyed zeal, take a step back and consider the actual results of this experiment. Most people wouldn't touch it with a ten-foot pole anymore.

Albert Bourla, Pfizer CEO, does not share that view: “mRNA was a technology, but we had less experience, only two years working on this, and actually, mRNA was a technology that never delivered a single product until that day, not vaccine, not any other medicine. So it was very counterintuitive, and I was surprised when they suggested to me that this is the way to go, and I questioned it. And I asked them to justify how can you say something like that, but they came, and they were very, very convinced that this is the right way to go.” https://www.washingtonpost.com/washington-post-live/2022/03/10/transcript-wp-subscriber-exclusive-albert-bourla-author-moonshot-inside-pfizers-nine-month-race-make-impossible-possible/

I'm guessing "pay for performance" i.e. he doesn't frequent prostitutes.

Pfizer's 2022 revenue was 100 billion dollars. Moderna's was 18.4 billion dollars. Is health the crux of the issue here? The Covid pandemic drives Pfizer’s 2022 revenue to a record $100 billion https://www.cnbc.com/2023/01/31/the-covid-pandemic-drives-pfizers-2022-revenue-to-a-record-100-billion.html Moderna reaped $18.4B in COVID vaccine sales last year, projects at least $5B in 2023 https://www.fiercepharma.com/pharma/moderna-covid-vax-scarfed-sales-184b-2022-company-says