rattlesnake

Good, we have established that the claim "nobody ever stated that the vaccine prevented infection" is false. The CDC director said it. As did Biden in July 2021. The fact that it gets rectified afterwards by the media does not change the fact that he actually said it and was heard by millions. BIDEN: “You’re not going to get COVID if you have these vaccinations.” https://apnews.com/article/joe-biden-business-health-government-and-politics-coronavirus-pandemic-46a270ce0f681caa7e4143e2ae9a0211

Yes, I know the sales pitch just as well as you do.

What happened six months later is irrelevant. Walensky pronounced these words and influenced the perceptions and beliefs of the millions of people who watched her at that time.

Your "fact check" is about a clip and the way it was assembled. You are smart, right? You understand what I am saying.

I did not post a clip, but an article. She pronounced those words and, being the head of the CDC, they were very impactful.

"Yes, she overstated the research that was known at that time, which later changed as the virus and science's understanding about it both evolved with time." At the speed of science, right? The dozens of people I know who got the shot were initially convinced that, as with all the other vaccines they had before, they would not contract the illness they were being vaccinated against. This was the prevailing mindset and belief at the time, and the authorities (whose primary concern was to fight "vaccine hesitancy") certainly leaned heavily into it.

But the political authorities stated it to encourage people to get jabbed. This is what the head of the CDC said in 2021, when the operation to get everybody jabbed was going full throttle: https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2021/04/cdc-data-suggests-vaccinated-dont-carry-cant-spread-virus.html Vaccinated people do not carry the virus — they don’t get sick,” Dr. Rochelle Walensky, director of the CDC, told MSNBC’s Rachel Maddow on Tuesday. That’s “not just in the clinical trials, but it’s also in real-world data.”

Are they vaccinated?

Ditto.

Common sense died with Covid.

She had the misfortune of being forced to take it to keep her job, despite informing her employer of her condition.

Thanks for illustrating my point.

How many more horror stories like this must we hear before the collective denial collapses?

Same for me.

Thank God you had your 5 shots, or it would have been a lot worse.

Phaka Ink. He's exceptionally good.

Yes, as shocking as it may be to you, some people are able to formulate independent thought without systematically referring to a third party authority diktat.

What I am consistently observing is the absence of actual broken down data to support the ongoing claim that vaccination prevents hospitalization. Claims such as "the hospitalized are mainly unvaccinated or not completely vaccinated" seem to be textbook sophisms aiming to influence the reader into correlating vaccination with absence of hospitalization. For example, if a "complete vaccination" status is stipulated to be 4 shots, someone with 3 shots is deemed "not completely vaccinated". So if you have 20 hospitalized people, of which 2 have had zero shots and 10 have had three shots, mathematically the claim "the hospitalized are mainly unvaccinated or not completely vaccinated" is correct although it is a fallacy. You would need 11 people with zero shots for this claim to be dialectically valid, and I sincerely doubt that is the case, otherwise they would for sure tell us.

Do we know the age, BMI and any health conditions of these people? If not, the above is not relevant and one would have to very biased to draw the conclusion that unvaccinated = hospitalization. Another very dubious notion is the "not completely vaccinated" one. What is the proportion of those who have had zero jabs, one jab, two jabs…? As always, logic, objectivity and reason are discarded to push vaccines at all costs… it's just ridiculous.

The silence tells us all we have to know.

Confirmed, I have had zero jabs and never got Covid.

Sorry for your loss. My neighbour died of a stroke one week after a Covid shot. A woman I know back in France is half paralysed after hers. It's not rare. Or we will have to redefine the term "rare".

Still worth asking IMO. I can PM you the details of a good one if you want. The ED visa option is good too, back in my time (it may have changed) you got your 1-year non-O and had to attend 4 hours of classes per week. And you get to learn Thai which is never a bad idea.

I would ask an agent to sort it out for me.

They are trying to reinstall the Shinawatra puppets by proxy, and the outcome is unsure. "Stuff is going on" in lots of countries right now, the list of BRICS candidates is long and the BRICS are most probably going to launch their assets-backed currency soon. The dollar is already dead, and so is the hegemony that goes with it. A major shift is underway.