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Posts posted by spidermike007
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An utterly tragic outcome. Easy for the cabinet to make these decisions, while collecting full benefits and a salary. But woe are the masses. The reality, is that the incubation phase is well past. We had millions of tourists here in January and February, similar to Italy. Yet, it never blew up here. Personally, I think it was well managed, and the heat and humidity, combined with the Vitamin D we get through our skin (that has been proven to promote immunity) helped alot. If this thing was going to blow up, it would have happened 4-6 weeks ago.
Let it go. This is not the zombie apocalypse. Covid is nearly gone from Thailand. Time to get back to work. It is only fair to the Thai people. They need this. Extending this shutdown would be punitive for them, and cause alot more suffering, and perhaps make the "economic startup" far more difficult. We already know how insincere the government is, when it comes to helping those in greatest need. They proved that by turning down over 80% of those who applied for the paltry 5,000 handout. All that should be required is a Thai ID card, and you get the help. Show us. Stop telling us. Show us something, anything, other than utter insensitivity to the masses.
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16 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said:
He can afford it from his pocket change.
No matter. He is doing it. Many very wealthy people, especially here in Thailand, are continuing their cheap, stingy, tight fisted (ตระหนี่มาก) ways, and utterly refuse to help their own people, despite proclaiming to love their nation like no other. Same elsewhere.
Some are stepping up. And kudos to the ones who open their hearts to the plight of the lower income folks, who are getting their butts kicked by the insanity of this prolonged economic shutdown.
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6 minutes ago, Walter Travolta said:Yep, I got ridiculed by the poo pants on here warning me to "just wait until the incubation period is over, 2 weeks this, 2 weeks that" and "all these workers running back to their provinces at Mo Chit bus station, you wait and see, the whole of Thailand will be gasping for breath"
Well, we are way past all of that now and what? Tell me where it all collapsed and people are dropping in the streets?
It is immensely satisfying being proven correct, but even more satisfying seeing the ones who genuinely believed they were 100% correct, to be proven 100% incorrect. Sorry if I come across as smug . . . but thats the way y'all made me feelMany seem to be genuinely shocked that the zombie apocalypse never happened.
Such an over reaction. And I will say it again. The economic recovery will likely be 200x worse than Covid itself.
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1 hour ago, balo said:
The average IQ is a bit lower here in Thailand , maybe that's why we hear so many stories like this. Then again it also happens in the West. Never mind,
In this day and age, I could say the same thing about the US, and it would apply! 30 years of gorging on reality TV, carries with it a high price indeed.
Scamming is universal.
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The concept of a refund is more applicable to some areas, than to others. It is simply not a common practice here, with the exception of the big box stores. Immigration? Best of luck.
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This insane economic shutdown is going to cripple millions financially. There will be alot of opportunities. A hotel is a risky one. Tourism could take years to rebound here, and there is a good chance it will never return to it's former levels. Wait. Many other opportunities will present themselves.
And at a minimum, you would need a very good CPA to go over the books. And a private detective to research the background of the seller would not be a bad idea either.
There are alot of scams out there. They are countless. You cannot be too careful with your hard earned savings. It is called self respect!
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For me, the strangest part of this is not the scam itself. It is the willingness to allow yourself to "fall in love" with someone you have never even met. Who does this? Why? How? What level of emotional desperation is required to stoop to this level? How poor must one's self esteem be to fall for someone you have never met? What about chemistry? Quirks? Background? Family?
I sort of understand the concept of meeting someone online. Two or three chats and then you meet for coffee. Or end it. I have known guys who have spent hundreds of hours chatting or calling someone they have never met. It strikes me as a form of insanity.
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1 hour ago, dinsdale said:
You are aware that this is potentially fatal for people in their 20's, 30's, and 40's. People who are healthy with no underliying medical issues have succumed.
People who are likely obese, eat a terrible diet or are otherwise susceptible. It is all about the body's natural immunity. Even young people have compromised systems. Heavy drinkers, heavy smokers, heavy people, and other factors. Age alone tells a very small part of the story.
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1 hour ago, idiot farang said:In a 6 year study (the most comprehensive I could find that didn't include pneumonia from other causes), seasonal flu deaths in Thailand averaged 2708 per year. That's 226 per month.
Based upon your logic, because of this CONTAGIOUS disease, Thailand should be locked down pretty much 24/7/365. Right?!!?!?
Or does that lock down only apply when your handlers convince you that it's a pandemic and you need autocrats to protect you and direct every aspect of life?
But, yeah, it's me who makes 0% sense...
Thank you. A voice of reasoning in a wilderness of madness and bad information. Some simply will not accept the fact that this IS NOT the zombie apocalypse!
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It is likely that this administration will only listen to the booze industry lobbyists. Money talks. So, hopefully they will be able to talk some common sense into these guys. After all, now many nations worldwide imposed an alcohol ban? Greenland, South Africa and one province in France. And Thailand. What can one even say? Punish the people with a lockdown, and a curfew, and then deny us the comfort of a drink. I am not a big drinker, but I am also not a big fan of Uncle Somchai telling me what I can and cannot do, and telling me that having a drink somehow puts the nation in jeopardy. Yes, I have heard all the social distancing stuff. All of that can easily be applied, and common sense can be applied too.
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Extending the lockdown at this point is a power grab by the administration, and is absolutely punitive to the Thai people. They have already demonstrated their unwillingness to help these folks, with the insufficient aid plan, which had over an 80% rejection rate. If they were serious, they would simply require a Thai ID. You show up, present your ID, and get your check. Or better yet, your cash.
End the lockdown. End it now. Do it gradually, but end it. The curfew is unnecessary at this point. Start up public transportation again. Let the people work. Get the economy going, before it is too late for many.
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2. Controlled: Low-risk businesses are allowed to reopen and some international travel allowed, resulting in 40 to 70 new infections daily (bringing the total confirmed cases to around 4,661 in June which is acceptable);
3. Outbreak: No measures in place for both domestic and international travel resulting in uncontrolled transmissions with 500 to 2,000 new cases found daily (bringing the total number of confirmed cases to around 45,596 by June or July).
This is a stunning degree of nonsense, and panic mongering. If Dr. Taweesin Visanuyothin (spokesperson for the government’s Centre for Covid-19 Situation Administration) were not a government official (meaning he is above the law) I would suggest having him arrested and imprisoned for his stupendously irresponsible predictions of the number of potential new cases. First of all, new international travel would never be allowed at this stage, without significant screening, and prevention measures in place, health certificates showing the passengers have been certified as Covid free, etc. So, that makes these numbers even more inane, alarming, panic inducing, apocalyptic, and beyond stupid.
Extending the lockdown at this point is a power grab by the administration, and is absolutely punitive to the Thai people. They have already demonstrated their unwillingness to help these folks, with the insufficient aid plan, which had over an 80% rejection rate. If they were serious, they would simply require a Thai ID. You show up, present your ID, and get your check. Or better yet, your cash.
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4 minutes ago, sjaak327 said:
Fully Agree with this. The time has come. What people are forgetting is that if social distancing measure are being practiced, the spread of the virus will be limited. These social distancing measures have been implemented too late in many countries, hence the enormous spike in cases back in say Europe and the US. When the curve has been flattened, it is time to gradually re-open countries, but leave social distancing measures firmly in place. yes, there will be new cases, but the steep curve should not happen with these mitigation measures firmly in place. Thailand's numbers certainly indicate the curve is flat.
Absolutely correct. And also the incubation phase is well past. We had millions of tourists here in January and February, similar to Italy. Yet, it never blew up here. Personally, I think it was well managed, and the heat and humidity, combined with the Vitamin D we get through our skin (that has been proven to promote immunity) helped alot. If this thing was going to blow up, it would have happened 4-6 weeks ago. Let it go. This is not the zombie apocalypse. Covid is nearly gone from Thailand. Time to get back to work. It is only fair to the Thai people. They need this. Extending this shutdown would be punitive for them, and cause alot more suffering, and perhaps make the "economic startup" far more difficult.
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I would love to learn Seagal's "slap em a hundred times with both hands in under one minute" technique. It looks very useful. Also alot of fun to watch! Amazing that this guy is still doing two or three films a year. All straight to streaming, I guess.
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19 hours ago, eeworldwide said:Well - maybe the beer at least?
Absolutely no reason to continue the ban on alcohol at this stage. Now that the big producers are complaining, the administration might listen. Money is one language they do seem to understand.
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22 hours ago, Kaopad999 said:Fingers crossed they extend it for at least another 2 months. So far it's worked really well.
As that old saying goes "If if it's not broke, then why try to fix it"Only someone living in an ivory tower, with a large monthly pension could utter such uneducated drivel. Why fix it? Because people are hungry, out of work, and in great need, and I do not see you reaching out to help them. So, let us get a life and look at the reality. Less than ten new cases a day. The longer this goes on, the more businesses lost, the more hunger, and greater difficulty in re-starting the economy. There is absolutely no justification to continue the lockdown. At a minimum it should be a gradual reopening, starting with malls, restaurants, salons, public transportation, and small shops May 1st.
End the lockdown. End it ASAP. Let people go back to work!
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This seems like a sound policy. He kept himself in the background, and let Trump shoot himself in the foot daily. If he could have limited himself to 10 minute press conferences focusing on Covid, he would have jumped in the approval ratings. But, he could not help himself, as usual. He ranted about the lockdown, he ranted about the benefits of swallowing lysol, he ranted about the Chinese.
As I said before, Covid beat Trump one minute into the first round. He is DOA. All Biden has to do is show up. Goodbye Don. You will not be missed. The world will rejoice, as you are shown the door. Perhaps we will actually see a competent administration, a return to the embrace of our closest allies, and the correct amount of disrespect shown toward MBS, Kim, Xi, Putin, Sen, and the other despots out there who have been coddled by Trump. And most refreshing of all, would be a leader who actually knows how to negotiate!
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Let us hope this is not true. This would be a horrendously bad decision. This far the govt. has done a good job. Covid was isolated and it died. Now, it is time to bring the nation back from the brink. Another month would be hugely damaging to the vast majority of the population here and highly punitive, for no good reason. It is overkill. It would be devastating to millions.
The new daily cases are at near zero. More pedestrians meet their maker each day.
End the lockdown. End the insanity. End it now!
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No. I don't think so. If anything a very limited lockdown for two weeks.
Closing down the economy is the height of insanity.
Many are now suggesting that by isolating people within their homes, they are eliminating any resistance to the virus, weakening immune systems, and creating a likely scenario for a second wave. I happen to think a lot of what these doctors are saying is accurate, and makes sense. Especially, if like me, you believe that the damage done by the worldwide economic lockdown, will be 200 times worse than the virus itself.
Some nation are attempting to bail out their citizens. As an American I qualify for no assistance other than the paltry $1200. Will my business fail? Quite possibly. Along with millions of others. Will people starve? Yes. Potentially millions worldwide.
There is so much bad information out there. In the US they have killed thousands with the ventilators. The established medical protocols for influenza, which are being blindly applied to this virus are killing a majority who die. This virus requires a level of imagination and creativity that very few doctors are equipped with.
The lockdown in Thailand should end May 1st. Get the people back to work. Assuming their jobs are still there!
Tourism has been decimated. Millions will be out of work. Not that the authorities had a choice on that one. But, time to restart the rest of the economy.
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2 hours ago, Sheryl said:
It is now being reported that CAAT has extended the ban on incoming international flights through end of May.
That makes total sense. Thailand is well insulated and the numbers are wonderfully low. The rest of the world looks likes Zombieland in comparison. Why risk that? And who would be coming anyway? Likely only returning Thais and a few expats, and the restrictions would be significant.
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Many are now suggesting that by isolating people within their homes, they are eliminating any resistance to the virus, weakening immune systems, and creating a likely scenario for a second wave. I happen to think a lot of what these doctors are saying is accurate, and makes sense. Especially, if like me, you believe that the damage done by the worldwide economic lockdown, will be 200 times worse than the virus itself.
A voice of reasoning in the wilderness of panic and fear of the zombie apocalypse. What they are saying makes total sense. There is an astonishing amount of bad information out there, and alot of medical personnel who do not know what they are working with, are unwilling to break normal influenza protocol (therefore killing alot of people, inadvertently) and listening to Fauci, the CDC, the FDA, and the WHO way too much, and not thinking outside the box, and dancing on their feet. As this guy says, theory and reality are not always the same.
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Kudos to him for stepping up. Although they were rather vague about the rest of the super rich within Thailand. I wonder how many are really putting their money where their mouths are? Anyone heard any stories of others?
Charoen Pokphand Group patriarch Dhanin Chearavanont, Thailand’s richest man with a net worth of US$14.1 billion (456.8 billion baht), has spent Bt100 million of that money to build a factory making 100,000 free surgical masks per day for healthcare workers. Several of Dhanin’s wealthy peers have also donated expensive medical equipment for the treatment of Covid-19 patients, particularly ventilators and negative pressure isolation rooms.
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One has to wonder what they will open to? Tourism is not returning to Thailand anytime soon. If you think about it, the group that comprised perhaps 60% of all arrivals (lower to middle income Chinese and Indians) are the ones who have been hardest hit by this idiotic worldwide economic shutdown. Tourism in Thailand will never recover to even close to it's former levels, and that leaves millions out of work. Most countries will still be required to have Covid letters, as the virus is still raging in many countries. And some countries will not issue that letter (impossible to get in the US). Plus, will the mandatory health insurance still be required? Will it be even stricter than before? And just what are people returning to, or coming to? Will restaurants be open? How about nightlife?
There are so many unanswered questions, it boggles the mind. One thing is for certain. Thailand will be feeling the effects of this for a very, very long time. So will the rest of the world.
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22 hours ago, treetops said:
Hotels. At Government expense. If you believe this from the site we're not allowed to quote:
The Public Health Ministry would initially pay for the accommodation of returnees at hotels and the Defence Ministry would help sponsor it later, he said. In the future, there might be different classes of quarantine hotels for returnees who could afford to pay, he said.
There is no question that this pertains only to Thai returnees. Why would the government pay for a returned ex-pat? They do very little to support us, and if anything they seem to want us to leave.
Chiang Mai: "Irresponsible" Thai and foreign cyclists on Doi Suthep could spread virus
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How is someone getting on a bicycle putting people in harms way? This virus is NOT airborne. And if someone had Covid symptoms they would not be on a bike ride. So, how are they making it harder on people, or putting people at risk? People should be allowed to recreate. Bicycling by it's very nature consists of automatic social distancing. Sure, it would be better if they wear a mask. I bike regularly, and I wear a mask. Not for my own health. But, to make the Thai people feel more secure.
This ignorant panic and zombie mentality has to stop. It is not healthy for society. There is barely any Covid here. It is burned out. Let it go. Let people get on with their lives. Let the people go back to work.