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4 hours ago, Russell17au said:

The massage shops were ordered to close by the Ministry of Public Health on 18th March. My wife has the documents that ordered her shop closed 18th March until 31st March and then it was extended to 15th April and then extended until further notice. My wife's shop has been closed since the 18th March with no income but she must still pay the rent as the landlord will not give any reduction as they must still pay the bank loan. If this forced closure goes much longer then this is one massage shop that will not re-open.

And there are hundreds of thousands of businesses nationwide, that are in a similar position. Nobody is offering any solutions. Only brain dead ministers, who are worth a fortune, and have no concept of what it is to work for a living, and are creating these insane timelines.

33 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

I've lost interest in the Cinema, the new films don't hold my attention.

In the US, there is a vast selection of foreign and independent films in the cinema. Here, there are a very limited number of choices, and they tend to be the big films. I think either the booking agents here are very lazy, or the public here is only interested in the silly franchise type films. Either way, it leaves many of us with few choices, and I cannot count the number of times I have wanted to see a film in the cinema here, and there was absolutely nothing of interest. 

4 hours ago, stevenl said:

Yes, forum rules require you to back up claims. Next time you make this claim without proof I'll report. I hope you do provide the proof, working medication would be excellent, but ATM it is not there yet.

OK, here you go. And just a heads up. It has been since the seventh grade, that someone has threatened to report me. I would try another approach. Surely in this day and age there are more mature ways to deal with issues.

In this new must watch video, Dr. Zelenko went on to explain that hydroxychloroquine helps zinc penetrate the cell (zinc decelerates viral replication in the cell). He stated that azithromycin combats secondary infections. Dr. Zelenko is surprised that many other doctors operate with a “peace time mentality.” Instead, he calls for bravery and mindset adjustment.

https://techstartups.com/2020/04/05/new-updates-dr-vladimir-zelenko-cocktail-hydroxychloroquine-zinc-sulfate-azithromycin-showing-phenomenon-results-900-coronavirus-patients-treated-must-watch-video/

Last week, the American Society of  Thoracic Surgeons issued guidelines for doctors to use the anti-malarial if they are in the advanced stages of the coronavirus, but some physicians say that it needs to be administered long before that.

“In a pandemic, we need to be using presumptive diagnoses,” said Marvin Lerner, a retired Manhattan-based physician and infectious diseases expert.

https://nypost.com/2020/04/11/doctors-pols-urge-use-of-miracle-coronavirus-drug-cocktail/

By day 6 of the study, 70% of treated patients no longer harbored virus as determined by RT-PCR, compared with 12.5% of controls. The combination of hydroxychloroquine plus azithromycin was more effective at clearing virus than hydroxychloroquine alone.

https://www.virology.ws/2020/03/19/hydroxychloroquine-reduces-viral-load-and-symptoms-in-covid-19-patients/

I could go on all day long. None of these are clinical studies, and none are absolutely conclusive. But, I ask once again, when faced with death as an alternative, how conclusive does the medication have to be?

Many of us still love the cinema experience. However, it would be more enjoyable if they did not blast the AC to near Arctic temps, here in Thailand. Why they are so hellbent on spending that extra 25,000 baht every month on AC is beyond me. Things might change now. I would guess ticket sales will be way, way down for the next few years. You wean someone of a habit, and it is hard to say if things will just go back to normal. You shut down an economy deliberately, and the consequences of that insanity is totally unforeseen. 

Just now, stevenl said:

That is not proof, indications at best, with real research so far showing no benefit at all, possibly even pointing to being detrimental.

 

Your claim is not correct. You make the claim, you back it up in stead of telling others to do the research themselves.

Big Pharma is doing a great job of pushing back against these drugs, as most are generic, and there is no big payday in it for them. They seem to prefer to wait, for a massive vaccine payday, and let the chips fall where they may. Look, we all believe what we want to believe. Some are more open minded to alternatives, than others. If I were seriously ill with Covid, I would opt to try the drug cocktail, rather than endure the worst side effect possible, which is death.

I made the claim. I do not need to back it up. There is plenty of information out there for those willing to learn.

You may have enough cash, but you have not been doing a very impressive job of sharing it with those in greatest need. The last paltry 5,000 baht was met with over an 80% rejection rate. Proud of yourselves? The only proof that should be required is a Thai ID card, if you guys were serious, and if you really cared about your people as much as you claim to. Put your money where your mouth is please. There are tens of millions in need right now.

My wife and her friends set up a kitchen at a local temple yesterday, and the locals lined up for hours, to get a free meal. Get a life guys. You can do alot better than you are doing, to assist your people. 

Is there a timeline for the second stage? Sure would like to be able to visit some restaurants again!

2 hours ago, stevenl said:

14 hours since you claimed, hydrochloride has been proven effective. Still waiting for the proof.

If you cared to do the research, rather than refute one of the few potential cures out there, there are several videos on Youtube, done by doctors who are using it on their patients with good success. Also a few studies, plus the Zelenko interview. You are welcome to pooh pooh them all. But, what is the alternative, for someone who is gravely ill? Just let them croak? There is no absolute proof. But, there are many success stories. Look, there was no absolute proof of gravity before Newton did his experiments, and if you go back long enough, they really thought the earth was flat, as there was not proof it was round, and they thought the earth was the center of the universe. 

As is usually the case, Trump did not research this prior to making his statement. Hydro has actually proven to be one of the most effective drugs available against the treatment of Covid. However, it has to be used in conjunction with Zipthro and alot of Zinc. At least 150mg. of zinc seems to open up the cellular structure of the Covid, and allow penetration of the hydro. A few studies and doctors have already demonstrated this. Before you go on and on about your boring "need for clinical studies" nonsense, consider the worst side effect of all. One they are now contending with in the US. Death. I prefer a mild side effect to death. I prefer a proactive and imaginative doctor willing to break with protocols, to try to save my life, to one who just let's me die, because he has more or less been instructed to do so by the FDA, the CDC and the WHO, on behalf of Big Pharma. 

Protocols were meant to be broken when they are not working. What is the absolute definition of stupidity? Repeating something over and over again, when it is not working. And when fatalities are concerned, I think it would be appropriate to also call that behavior irresponsible. 

3 hours ago, J Town said:

It absolutely IS airborne and saying it's not just lengthens the time we're all gonna be stuck with it. That is, of course, unless if you have better info that contradicts the CDC.

 

"Mode of transmission: Current data suggest person-to-person transmission most commonly happens during close exposure to a person infected with the virus that causes COVID-19, primarily via respiratory droplets produced when the infected person speaks, coughs, or sneezes."

 

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/hcp/infection-control-recommendations.html

Totally incorrect. Respiratory droplets and an airborne disease are two completely different things. There is a staggering amount of ignorance about this disease. The distinction between droplets that can travel a few feet and an aerosol that remains in the air is huge. Therefore a cyclist would be at far greater risk of becoming infected, than he would be of spreading the disease unless he was symptomatic and coughing or sneezing immediately within the path of pedestrians. 

From the WHO study of over 70,000 cases. 

Respiratory infections can be transmitted through droplets of different sizes: when the droplet particles are >5-10 μm in diameter they are referred to as respiratory droplets, and when then are <5μm in diameter, they are referred to as droplet nuclei.¹ According to current evidence, COVID-19 virus is primarily transmitted between people through respiratory droplets and contact routes.^2-7 In an analysis of 75,465 COVID-19 cases in China, airborne transmission was not reported.⁸

https://www.who.int/news-room/commentaries/detail/modes-of-transmission-of-virus-causing-covid-19-implications-for-ipc-precaution-recommendations

Another example of an airborne pathogen is anthrax. It is a fine mist and stays in the air for a significant amount of time, can travel some distance and is deadly. It is a bacterial disease (which Covid is not) and infects the body when a person inhales anthrax spores. The difference between spores and droplets is significant. 

The virus that causes COVID-19 is mainly transmitted through droplets generated when an infected person coughs, sneezes, or speaks. These droplets are too heavy to hang in the air. They quickly fall on floors or surfaces. You can be infected by breathing in the virus if you are within 1 metre of a person who has COVID-19, or by touching a contaminated surface and then touching your eyes, nose or mouth before washing your hands.

This would mean the BMA is circumventing the national government, which would be a great thing, as I have not heard anything about allowing restaurants to re-open May 1st. Defiance can be a wonderful thing when it is applied with wisdom. The people desperately need to get back to work, and we all desperately need reasons to get out of the house. We are ready. The nation is ready. We are fine. This thing is nearly gone. Let it go. 

How is someone getting on a bicycle putting people in harms way? This virus is NOT airborne. And if someone had Covid symptoms they would not be on a bike ride. So, how are they making it harder on people, or putting people at risk? People should be allowed to recreate. Bicycling by it's very nature consists of automatic social distancing. Sure, it would be better if they wear a mask. I bike regularly, and I wear a mask. Not for my own health. But, to make the Thai people feel more secure.

This ignorant panic and zombie mentality has to stop. It is not healthy for society. There is barely any Covid here. It is burned out. Let it go. Let people get on with their lives. Let the people go back to work.

16 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said:

He can afford it from his pocket change.

No matter. He is doing it. Many very wealthy people, especially here in Thailand, are continuing their cheap, stingy, tight fisted (ตระหนี่มาก) ways, and utterly refuse to help their own people, despite proclaiming to love their nation like no other. Same elsewhere.

Some are stepping up. And kudos to the ones who open their hearts to the plight of the lower income folks, who are getting their butts kicked by the insanity of this prolonged economic shutdown. 

1 hour ago, balo said:

The average IQ is a bit lower here in Thailand , maybe that's why we hear so many stories like this. Then again it also happens in the West.  Never mind, 

In this day and age, I could say the same thing about the US, and it would apply! 30 years of gorging on reality TV, carries with it a high price indeed. 

Scamming is universal. 

The concept of a refund is more applicable to some areas, than to others. It is simply not a common practice here, with the exception of the big box stores. Immigration? Best of luck.