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When we were told how the whole world is looking at this case, and a scapegoat won't be found, I thought this nasty case couldn't get any more sordid, I was wrong.

For people to have any faith that the real culprits will be caught in this smoke and mirrors charade, the military should take all the police off this case and call for the help now, of Scotland Yard and let them try to sort this mess out. The RTP sure don't look like they have any hope of charging the real culprits. If there is any truth to this latest twist, the police should be charged and the book should be thrown at them. Not only justice should be done, it should seem to be done.

Then all the people that have been charged in the past by these police and jailed should have the right to fair trial, as if it is true, I am sure it isn't the first time they have found a scapegoat. A Thai version of a Royal Commission should be held into the RTP, with international independent judges.

If Pornprasit Sukdam is found to be telling the truth, for his bravery and honesty, he should be relocated, given a new identity and a large reward after he has testified against these police so he and his family can get on with their lives without having to look over their shoulders.

3BB can (and does) limit the speed of your connection from 5pm until midnight.

I believe there's another thread on this on TV, but it seems that after 5pm, and after you've gone through 2-gig of downloaded data, your bandwidth rate drops and is capped at between 4mb and 5mb, no matter what speed your package states (I don't know anyone with 3BB Fiber Optic, so I can't speak to if this applies to that connection style).

If you call them enough to complain about the cap they will remove it from your account, but I am not sure how much effort this takes.

I hope this helps and adds some information to your question.

I have never been limited what so ever. I have ADSL 3BB., I would normally use well over 2Gb by 5pm.

Posted Today, 06:00

How many 7/11 workers could you borrow a phone from that have INTERNATIONAL call availability, to call your mum and sister?

BS - He's lying.

How many 7/11 workers do you know that have enough credit to call International numbers?

Even my own wife rarely has anymore then 200-300 baht credit on her phone, and I don't tend to have much more in mine either when I'm at home.

If you dial 006 it costs 3 baht a minute to a landline. . Hmm even on 100 Baht you could speak for more than 30 minutes. Also he was in a shop that may sell top ups. So from this you assume he is lying. Good work Sherlock! Glad you aren't running this investigation.

More and more funny by the minute!!

So this guy is running for his life with the bloodthirsty Thai mafia hot on his heels. Runs to a convenience story, buys a top up, takes a pic of the mafiaguys, connects to his FB account and post the pics. During all this time the "mafia" is patiently waiting outside for the police to arrive an hour later!!

Biggest give-away is the claim, that they threatened to kill him by hanging?? Anyone a little familar with Thai ways, would know a threat of a knife or a gun, absolutely yes. But hanging, never ever!!

Maybe he didn't need to buy a top up, only if there was no money in the persons account. But according to the report he ran there around 2.30am police arrive around 4.am I think that gives him plenty of time to even buy a top up if needed.

And yes, hanging is also not unheard of. I remember an American actor, David Carradine was found with his hands tied behind his back and supposed to have suicided by hanging himself. Many people including one of his ex wives believed he was murdered. There was another guy that hanged himself in a sitting position.Sure there are many more cases too.

How many 7/11 workers could you borrow a phone from that have INTERNATIONAL call availability, to call your mum and sister?

BS - He's lying.

How many 7/11 workers do you know that have enough credit to call International numbers?

Even my own wife rarely has anymore then 200-300 baht credit on her phone, and I don't tend to have much more in mine either when I'm at home.

If you dial 006 it costs 3 baht a minute to a landline. . Hmm even on 100 Baht you could speak gor more than 30 minutes. Also he was in a shop that may sell top up, so you assume he is lying. Great, glad you aren't running this investigation.

I never knew that about the 006 I wish I had known about it before, it would have saved me a fortune .. thanks for the top tip, you learn something new every day, is that any landline though, even UK/Aus/USA??

I don't assume he was lying, I posted that in haste, I actually think he's telling the truth, do you honestly think he would put that much attention on himself, to be exposed as a liar? Seems a bit bizzarre to me if he did.. but the truth will come out, unless the BiB have already "taken care" of the persons he named DNA samples.

I am glad he has been cleared by you now, so will give you some information. Up to 1 month ago you could call True to landline for 1 baht a min. Look how much you could have saved.

AIS 00500 is a high quality and inexpensive international call service. Rates start at only 3 Baht per minute. We provide high quality communications together with crystal clear sound quality covering over 230 destinations worldwide. 3 baht a min http://www.ais.co.th/00500/en/news/3/Easy

True What is true 006 service?

The bank recently opened currency exchange booths at both the arrival and departure zones of Don Mueang International Airport.

Anyone know if the Kasikorn exchange rate at Don Mueang is the same as elsewhere in Thailand?

Kasikorn does not seem to be at Swampy but the banks that are offer very poor exchange rates.

Try this link http://bankexchangerates.daytodaydata.net/default.aspx

I have also opened up accounts with Krung Thai Bank in Ranong and Bangkok, Kasikorn Bank in 2 branches in Phuket and Thanachart Bank in Phuket without ever having a work permit.only having to show my passport to start them.

Anything would be better than a scooter. If it is good condition and reliable all is good. But have you ridden a bigger bike than a scooter? Can you use a clutch and gears. Just looked on bahtsold here are a couple of suggestions. Don't know if they are still available.

http://www.bahtsold.com/view/shadow-slasher-400-cc-75-000-baht--176444?doqs=1 Should suit your needs and in Chaing Mai too. 400cc shadow

http://www.bahtsold.com/view/yamaha-sr-400-great-condition-quick-sale-162086?doqs=1 This one in Bkk, but they are a great fun bike. Could go anywhere on this. I like these. 400cc SR Yamaha

Not sure why the links aren't working. But go to bahtsold and you can look yourself if they won't work for you either.

No problem seeing here http://www.sbs.com.au/dateline/story/watch/id/602005/n/Paradise-Pensioners

Ah the subtle effects of the harmless drug Crystal Meth (ya bah) turns a placed young man into a raging beast, ready to kill any and everyone he sees.

Religion makes some people behave like this too.

To those of you stating that I suggested that methamphetamine is a soft drug, I made no such statement ... so please read my post again...!

 

I suggested that most "users" start with "soft" or "recreational" drugs and ultimately lead on to more dangerous alternatives leading to incidents such as we have seen here.

 

You may wish to offer reasons for your personal decision to do drugs, but you will not change my attitude towards the use of any drugs for non-essential purposes ... the world would be a better place without any of them...!

 

 

The most dangerous aspect of marijuana use is you may end up in prison. The war on drugs has been an outstanding failure worldwide. The USA to it's credit is starting to do a uturn, Countries where marijauna is legal or decriminalised have a lower crime rate and also less hard drug use. New studies show it is not a gateway to harder drugs.. http://www.cliffsidemalibu.com/blog/new-studies-indicate-marijuana-gateway-drug/

HMMMM Muslims love only other muslims; the rest they just ignore, convert to Islam or in extreme cases kill them. Witness what is happening in Kurdistan to Christians right now.

Yes, violence is the way to go if you want respect.

Not just Christians. Muslims who do not followed the extremist path of IS are also being killed.

So that makes it ok? That is all the more reason to condem them. They are insane. Killing anyone who they think their invisible friend doesn't like. If you care to listen to the insanity of the military commander of isis, who is now off to murder some Kurds, interview. http://t.co/ENSov4dtkp

this is an interview on 3aw with Isis commander.

Maybe I missed something but the dog is 8 years old and NOW you ask about training him not to attack other dogs. Just what has been going on in the last 8 years. I get the feeling that this dog has never been exercised properly and is therefore not accustomed to other dogs and that is why he attacks them.

Definitely neuter him. If you had no intention of breeding him then that should have been done at an early age. Muzzle him when out and keep a good strong lead on him so that he can't get near other dogs. Carry a big stick. I find that just waving it at stray dogs keeps them far enough away. Don't let stray dogs get close enough to do the sniffing thing. How would you react if somebody came up and sniffed your butt.

Incorrect, I have two dogs that we acquired at the same age approx 10 weeks, they both have been bought up the same way with daily walks etc, now the lab still goes crazy at other dogs and will want to at least chase after them to fight although not aggressively plus he is prone to running off although he is the more obedient of the two when at home.

The other dog is let off the lead on walks, befriends other dogs who come up to him in an aggressive manner and generally want to be everyones friend.

So for the so called experts on here, perhaps they could explain the above !!

Depends on what you call a so called expert and who is doing the calling. Genetics play a very important role with the nature of the dog. This is not to say that 2 dogs from the same litter will have the same temperments. Just like 2 human from the same parents or even twins can have totally different personalities when brought up in the same environment. If you buy the dog from a good reputable breeder, that cares about the quality of the dogs they breed, it gives you a better chance of aquiring a dog with a good temperment and conformation. It should have a better chance also of having less medical problems than a dog of unknown parenthood or from a puppy farm. As I said in an earlier post, German Shepherds had a bad name which was deserved because there had been a ban on importing them, and the breeding stock in the country was poor and interbred. The dogs temperment was poor, many were nervous and prone to biting. After the ban was lifted, they improved to world standard. It is always a bit of luck when you buy your dog, no matter where it comes from, but you can make the odds in your favour much higher with where you buy from, and the dog you choose.

Just like you can get a racehorse bred from 2 of the greatest racehorses but that doesn't mean the offspring will be as good as the parents, but is some cases they may even be better.

Also the 2 dogs you had will never have had exactly the same expierences, so that can also be a factor.

I hope that helps.

Have you had him for 8 years? Has he been like this all his life? Have you done any obedience training with him? If he is a new dog, and you don't have any dog training schools around and you have not done much training yourself, I would also say get a muzzle for when you take him for a walk? An 8 year old GSD will be very hard to train, I think you may have left it too late. You should be able to teach him to sit and stay and what "no" means, but if you aren't committed to spending a lot of time training him, the muzzle is your only option. Not sure where you live, but here is a school that may be able to help.http://www.k9pattaya.com/PATTAYA_CANINE_INTERNATIONAL_COLLEGE_English.htm

Use a correction collar and have a strong lead so you can give him harsh corrections whenever he tries to attack another dog. When he is getting nasty with another, he may not mean to bite you, but it is quite probable you will be bitten with friendly fire. And as the previous poster said, get him neutered. That may help a lot.

GSD life span is normally not much more than 12 or 13. The training will help you greatly with your next dog, as they train you how to train your dog.

K9 Pattaya. Went there some years ago to inquire about training my newly acquired Golden. Told to leave it with them with enough food to last plus a huge fee then come and collect 3 MONTHS later. What no training sessions with me I ask. No they said. We train and then you collect. Needless to say I did not leave them with my dog. I can only hope that they have improved because they couldn't get much worse.

I am sorry to hear that about them. I don't know anything about them, I found the link and they looked ok from their site, but you are right not to leave your dog there. Dog training MUST be done with the owner and the dog, so the owner and dog develop a bond. The main part of training is the constant training of the owner so he knows how to train the dog. I have heard of other places in Austraila that do the same thing and they are terrible. Thanks for bringing it to my attention, and to anyone who wants to train their dog, this is a warning that if you don't go along for the training with your dog it is no good, never leave your dog with the training school.

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Its a German Shepherd what do you expect, Typical used for security, Not a Family dog and known for attacking people, a Dangerous breed of dog. That's all I have to say on the issue.

What a load of Pollocks..I was brought up with Alsations/sheperds since i was 5 y/o only dog i have had and that is many over 50 years.

My daughter grew up with our 2 GSD's. They were both well trained and also had great temperaments. My daughter is now 26 and was never threatened by the dogs. To the contrary, she was much safer having them around. My 2 bitches were 5 years old when my daughter was born, it was amazing the number of people said things like we should get rid of them when she was born. , The most stupid comments were that we should not let them come inside and we should keep them away from her.

The worst thing you could do is not let them inside and keep them away from her. They were used to coming inside, so if you kept them outside, they would blame her and become very jelous of her and are setting the scene up for major problems. As soon as she came home from hospital, (she was home in 1 month as she was 2 months prem) we introduced them to her. They came protective of her, never to the point of being savage or agressive to anyone, but when people came to see my daughter, they were always interested and needed to be close to her to make sure she was alright. I am sure if ever there was a threat to her from someone they would have been there to protect her. When she was only 3 years old, we could let her heel the dogs in the street. She would tell them to heel and they would walk at heel beside her.

I am not saying to leave dogs alone with children, but we had the utmost confidence that they would never hurt her, and out confidence in them was justified. So again, to say they are not a family dog is ludicrous. There were many breakins and roberies around us, but we never had any.

Great explanation, thanks.

Thanks, with a bit of love, kindness and training a dog can understand what you are saying, don't believe everyone that writes on here, no names mentioned. You could think they they are almost human, maybe even smarter than a lot we know.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KrV-kXI3cR8

It aint rocket science muzzle or even better, dont take him with you. Pretty simple if you ask me

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You have a dog so you can walk and spend time with him, developing a strong bond with him because they are your friend. Leaving him at home totally defeats the purpose of having a dog. It also will make the situation much worse because he will get bored, start destroying the home, digging holes, tearing up the washing, scratching at the back door, looking at you with sad eyes wondering why you won't take him for a walk, which would have been the highlight of his day, barking because he wants to go out with you, especially when you aren't at home, annoying any neighbours because of his barking, and getting problems due to lack of exercise both mental and physical and having the potential to create an even more dangerous dog that will get more ting tong. The visits to the vets will increase, your bank balance will drop etc etc.. Not the best idea I have heard here. You don't need to be a rocket scientist to understand that point do you? I hope you will change your mind. Not really that simple is it?

So I would choose the first point you made and the best choice, being a muzzle, not leaving him at home and you only gave yourself 2 choices in your statement.

What do you expect from an attack dog? Put a muzzle on when it goes out and take some time in training it ............... properly. The quote you made about not wanting to put a muzzle on him in in case he starts a fight is nonsensical and indicates you know nothing about dogs.

Can you elaborate on this point as I don't understand !

I meant that if I take him jogging around my house and he's in a muzzle, other dogs might attack him and he'll be defenseless. It seems I am missing something too.

The problem you are having is your dog is attacking other dogs. There will always be a slight risk that another dog will attack your dog when your dog has a muzzle on and he can't protect himself, but the chances are pretty low. When your outside your property, always have him on a strong leather leash and using a correction collar. I say leather leash because if it was chain and he flies at another dog the chain may injure your hand. If you see another dog that looks like he is interested in your dog, or visa versa, cross the road, Do not to let them come too close to each other. You must let him know you disapprove of his actions every time he looks like he wants to fight.

The most likely scenario where a fight will occur is if your dog acts aggressively towards another dog, and flies at it, the other dog provoked by your dogs aggression in turn attacks your dog. If you can minimise the chance of this happening it is very unlikely he will be attacked. Just like it is very unlikely of you walking along the street and a dog attacks you. It can happen, especially if you are aggressive towards the dog.

In Thailand there are many soi dogs wandering the street. Fights do occur, but considering the amount of dogs wandering around, it happens rarely as they are socialised towards having other dogs around all their lives. That is one reason why your dog is most likely attacking other dogs because he wasn't socialised as a puppy. If you try and over protect your dog when he is young, he doesn't learn the social skills of getting on with other dogs.

One way you can help train him to stop fighting is to have a friend with a dog on a leash, and you have yours on a leash.Then you both walk many times towards each other and but not in striking distance. Start with a larger gap and move to a smaller gap when you pass.When your dog starts to make an signs of aggression towards the dog reprimand him and give him a sharp correction change direction and a strong no, at the same time. As you are walking him, don't hold the leash too tight so he can't move but have a limp leash. If you hold him too close it can make him more protective of you. But so he can't move more than about 1 metre from you.

Hope that helps and good luck.

Maybe there's some truth about dog lovers not liking people.

Come on dudes, love each other.

Most dog people like other people, just sometimes they find their dog to be more loyal and intelligent than some people they come into contact with. Sorry, that is not possible.

I like people, it is just some ignorant people that aren't worth wasting my time with. If you want to listen to someone that says that dogs can't understand what you say, even when you give them a command they have been trained to obey and attacks myself and others with his rubbish well good luck. And someone like this is trying to give you information about dogs! Thiaberius knows nothing about dogs and is not a dog lover. He believes that all German Shepherds are attack dogs. Shown by his first (rude) comment to you. This is typical of someone with no knowledge of the breed. Any dog can be trained to be an attack dog,

I suspect you have not had your dog since it was a puppy have you?

Thaiberius, on 29 Jul 2014 - 00:05, said:

your guinea pig theory is total nonsense very much like your theories about dogs which explains why your dog likes scrapping.Just remember 2 things that most inadequate dog like doing.

Giving them varying instructions to sit, stand, rollover, leave - They won't have a clue what you're talking about. Dogs haven't evolved to include one to one conversations in their deck of cards. They don't understand things the same way as a human does, they do not display human behaviours.

Avoiding the fight is infinitely better than pulling tails but the alternative isn't so macho. I really do despair.

I could have expected you would not understand about the guinea pig just like you know little about dog training. Guinea pigs don't have tails!! Der If you give dogs instructions and they obey is that a myth in your eyes or some conspiracy theory as to why they obey? How can you say they don't understand what you tell them? To keep this simple for you, is it luck when you say sit and they sit? When you tell them stay and they stay till you tell them they can move is just luck? Dogs will obey commands because they understand. You amaze me that by some stroke of luck you said something I almost agree with, and that is avoiding the fight is infinitely better than (but it should have finished with) having to separate them once they are fighting. There is nothing macho about having to separate 2 dogs fighting. I do despair with you too and will not waste my time to reply to someone with your mentality. Period.

If possible without getting yourself bitten, from the back, grab the dog's hind legs and lift. Once they are off the ground, he will lose all confidence in his ability to do anything further.

Problems could be the other dogs then taking advantage of the situation.

We were always taught at the GSD club to grab the tail and pull lifting the rear end off the ground and as they let go to swing them around in a circle so they can't bite you, This should be only tried if there are 2 people, one for each tail to separate them. (as long as they both have tails) As was also said, the legs will also work. It is too dangerous if there is only one person.

If you don't know what you are doing, better to leave them, Throwing water over them or squirting them with a hose also may work, but usually not possible to find a hose nearby.

You should NEVER pull or lift any dog by the tail. The tail is attached to the spine and these actions can cause serious spinal or neurological damage.

Also, German Shepherds are prome to a hereditery disease called DM (Degenerative Myelopethy) or sometimes known as DMGS (DM German Shepherd) which is an auto immune disease of the neurological system. This is a horrible disease without cure that leads to full paralysis

I do know if you pick up a guinea pig by the tail it's eyes fall out.

Seriously, in 25 years of attending Dog Classes often 2 times a week at the GSDCV , I did see quite a few fights, they were always separated by pulling the tails, with no one being bitten and no injuries to the dogs. I am sure if someone's dog was injured by it's tail being pulled I would have heard about it. If they hadn't have been separated, the injuries the dogs would have sustained would have been very severe.

As it was a training school, there were many people that brought their dogs along as they couldn't control them. My two Shepherds had a bad habit of wanting to chase other dogs when running free at the park, but the best command I ever taught them was the drop command. They could be heading full speed towards another dog, and if I yelled out drop, they would both go straight down. Drop is a very submissive command. If I tried to call them in the same situation, they wouldn't hear me.

One of my bitches was in the demo team and we would often take 5 or 6 German Shepherds to elderly peoples homes. Almost all the elderly were thrilled at the sight of them and their eyes would all light up and bring much joy to them. If they were attack dogs, I am sure it would be outlawed in the nanny state.

German Shepherds have many hereditary diseases, the most common in the club would have been Hip Dysplasia. I suppose the point about the Degenerative Myelopethy is that you wouldn't want to pull a dogs tail if it had that. The same goes for HD. But in a fight you do to the best of your ability to stop them fighting. The GSDCV has a program to eradicate this nasty hereditary disease, by only breeding dogs that have been x-rayed for the disease and found to be suitable for breeding. This is also one of the reasons you should get your dogs from a well recognised registered breeder, as they will make sure the parents temperament and genetics is worth breeding from, so you have the best chance of not having a dog with problems.

I have done a search and it does seem to be common practise to pull their tails to separate them. There is however one site I found that agrees with you. If you are interested I have some of the links below.

http://nycdoggies.com/break-up-dog-fight/#comments

http://moderndogmagazine.com/articles/ask-expert-breaking-dog-fight/20223

If possible without getting yourself bitten, from the back, grab the dog's hind legs and lift. Once they are off the ground, he will lose all confidence in his ability to do anything further.

Problems could be the other dogs then taking advantage of the situation.

We were always taught at the GSD club to grab the tail and pull lifting the rear end off the ground and as they let go to swing them around in a circle so they can't bite you, This should be only tried if there are 2 people, one for each tail to separate them. (as long as they both have tails) As was also said, the legs will also work. It is too dangerous if there is only one person.

If you don't know what you are doing, better to leave them, Throwing water over them or squirting them with a hose also may work, but usually not possible to find a hose nearby.