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Here is a novel idea start making people wear seatbelts.

Yes there should be a fine for people that are drinking and driving. The fine should be we take your car for 24 hours instead of a nose check I would suggest that they get peoplewith breathalyzer training and use the road side test.

i knowmany Thais that sit and drink then get on the bikes to go home.

I know many falangs that also do it,that would not think of doing it in there own country!

Part of the problem is that there is no education on how to drive for thais... But they want us to have an international drivers liences and to follow what we are taught... But this only works if the other 90% of the domestic drivers that are on the roads have the same learning... Thais just dont care about the consequinces of there actions... Dont think its just Thais either... Farang come here and think that renting and driving moped is so easy, but they need to understand that we at home don't drive them and dont have the expeience on them...

''Thais just dont care about the consequences of their actions... ''

That I fully agree with.

The rest of it, not too sure.

Most of the thais I see on the road drive well. They drive so well that most of them survive driving up and down Chao Fa road at very excessive speeds, with no consideration of road rules, of other people using the same roads, overtaking and undertaking(sic) other vehicles, Traffic lights are merely insignificant colored lights. One place in the world where driving through a green light without looking both ways, is more dangerous than driving through a red light after having looked both ways.

It is merely UNDISCIPLINED driving, nothing less.

And these undisciplined good drivers know that they will get away with it 100% of the time.

Just no fear of possible consequences from thai authorities, because there are none.

The only reality checks are accidents and visits to the hospital, for those who survive.

Thats just so True mate.

hahahaha, maybe if the thai drivers actually knew the road rules or had a license it might be better. Considering most thai drivers only care about themselves and what they want to do, trying to drive by the rules here is almost impossible. Double lines on a blind corner mean go fast when you cross over them, the cars coming the other way will go off the road for you, what a joke. I have to admit though, I am getting used to it but it would be nice if they understood they need to stop at red lights.

What rules would that be? To have a good chance of avoiding accidents driving in Thailand, you need to drive defensively all the time and use a lot of common sense. There are around 13000 Thais dying on Thai roads every year probably mostly through drink driving and a severe lack of common sense, which we all know Thais are not known for.

Drink Driving is the main one,I live in a Thai community and they all think nothing of driving shitfaced its not a problem for them,i was at a party next to my house on friday night and all the people that were there were drinking whisky and every one of them had a motorbike or car,and all left pretty drunk ond drove home,and dont get me wrong alot of my falang freinds do it to, and im no angel

I am also puzzled as to why they would keep a Consulate open in Chiang Mai that sees less than a third of the business and consular cases compared to the Pattaya Consulate.

Distance might have something to do with it.

I don't understand what the one in chiang mai is there for as they don't do much, but the girls try to do as much as they can,they sorted my sons british passport out last time.

Whilst we all like a bit of fun and throw off at the B.i.B., give them a chance. Try learning Thai in a 2 months and see how hard the linguistic barrier becomes. Wait until the course is run and the streets respond rather than condemn at this point, We all know how hard it is. They have 8 weeks but it will require constant practice as it does with us speaking Thai. I would wish them all good for the effort they are making. It may also lead to a better understanding regarding how bad things are within their own system and that may be very good for Thailand overall.

good post mate,im still learning Thai after many years of living here

They got him buying a 200,000 bt gold chain in phuket,the idiot,not exactly smart is he?

Slowly, surely, the Shinawatra dynasty tightens its grip

And slowly, surely the entire population are letting them.

"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing" - Edmund Burke

And it is a truly frustrating fact for many powerless people here.

Someone made the highly apt analogy between Thailand and The Game of Thrones series. There are many similarities.

There does not seem to be any group of "good people" fighting the immense greed and corruption in this country.

When you see stories like these daily, there is no hope for this place:

http://www.thaivisa....or-questioning/

http://www.thaivisa....-urgent-review/

http://www.thaivisa....nipers-korkaew/

http://www.thaivisa....stifies-to-dsi/

http://www.thaivisa....o-shot-ex-wife/

http://www.thaivisa....in-extradition/

The superrich and over-privileged get away with murder, the democratically elected government is stealing the coffers blind, lies and obfuscation, blatant flouting of the law, bullies intimidating the press, no efforts made to arrest the real criminals.

Why? Because most people in this country are afraid.

Too busy posting pictures of themselves and their food on facebook.

They are too busy trying to be white, too engrossed in the mindless drama shows on TV.

Accepting corruption on all levels,"as long as they also profit from it"

Sticking their heads in the sand and refusing to acknowledge their responsibility.

It is hopeless.

The Tory party are doing exactly the same in the UK,robbing the people to feather there nests,same as most government's in the world, Thailand's no diffrent.

A few years ago arrived behind a 747 load of Chinese tourist none spoke English or wrote it. They hadn't filled out their cards arriving at immigration backing up the line to over an hour.

This is very true. Though I hate to generalize about a nation/cultural group, I have to agree that the Chinese are the rudest, most inconsiderate people on the planet...and NOW they have MONEY! You neglected to mention how they brazenly cut into immigration lines...one has to be alert and use one's elbows judiciously to avoid being pushed back by them.

Unfortunately, within 50 years they will--quite literally--rule the world. We are doomed.

The Russians are worse they are so ignorant,as a frequent traveller,through swampy,i have had to pull a few of them back as they have just walked past and tried to push in.

Why check people leaving?

Theres some naughty boys and girls trying to slip through!

Sad, but a routine business in that part of the world. I lived not far from Baan Phai from 2001 to 2011. Sorry to say it, but it really is savage up there in parts and I do feel for all the nice normal people (including Thais) stuck in that situation.

To all of you blokes thinking of marrying and moving to Issan, really, just stop and think. Upcountry is not very safe.

My Isaan wife says, "Do they know that sometimes Farang husbands treat their wives very badly? Still going to bars and seeing other ladies. I don't like this Thai Visa, why do they all hate Thailand? There are good and bad people everywhere."

I know a load of people who have lived there for many years, most happy, some not. The odd disaster but hardly routine. Large age gaps (I'm 19 years my wife's senior) and cultural differences mean these relationships can tend to start behind the 8 ball as expectations are so different. Some blokes come here and expect their much younger Thai wife to behave exactly the same as the spouse they bailed out on in the west, except be much prettier of course.

And before anyones asks, only married 3 years, so I supposedly still have the rose coloured glasses on. But I've lived in a 3rd world country for 20 years (PNG) and have seen many, many large age gap, cross cultural relationships. They aren't all bad and the overwhelming majority of blokes married to Thais are in good, mutually loving relationships.

I'm not for one second condoning or making excuses for the alleged murder in the OP, just going against the trend of this thread in that it is the rare exception, hardly the rule.

Casting general aspersions on Isaan people or Thais in general (though popular on TV) just isn't fair.

did you work for heavylift in png?

The pickup truck payoff for cold, calculated, conspiracy to commit murder. The death sentence for these partially evolved vegetables. It took so long to pin this down and a British newspaper to track it down.

you cant call the sun a newspaper ,its a filthy rag,only fit to wipe your arse on.

Major head fracture from hitting his head on a table,.... I don't think so!

RIP to the poor victim and condolences to the family!

Yes if its a concrete table that many bars have outside.

Disgust would be too mild. This scumbag needs to be given a 20 year sentence and the idiots living in the apartment building about 10 for aiding abetting the crime by not reporting it. There just seems no compassion in Thai society for wild animals. You only have to look at the way they treat their domestic animals. Large dogs caged in small villas and multiple little yappie ones in small apartments. Thai's have no idea.

my Thai neighbour has a poodle that has never been outside his house,it has never been walked,all it does is bark all day long,the poor things mad.

The addition of the drunk driving charge does nothing to affect the probability of this guy doing jail time. It just increases the amount he will need to pay to get out of it. All part of the negotiation for "justice", Thai style.

yep,he will get a suspended sentence,but behind closed doors a deal will take place,and a few mill will be given to the policemans family and a few others to smooth things over.

Can you imagine what would happen if an armed police officer did that in UK or Europe? I suspect pulling a gun on someone then waving it at a crowd of people would get you a jail sentence.

yes but were not in Europe,were in planet Thailand,you very rarely see Thais go off like this,but when they do get the fuc_k out the way, especially an armed one! scary

How can they actually afford a 1.2 Mill. car ?

I hope they are both former police officers now !!

They have to accept that cars repaired after accidents are never the same as they was before, but that they have to claim insurance companies and the poor craftmanship !

(i got full insurance paid out after an accident, it took more then 5 months and it was still not made properly, so the insurance company paid out the full sum and sold the car)

Maybe i was lucky !!

are you still in phuket karsten?

Well i hate smoking, so tax that to the hilt,as for alcohol,its still cheap in Thailand so no complaints there,£3 a pint in my local in the uk,but only 50bt a big bottle of leo in my local restaurant in chaing mai,and all those talking of leaving because of the price,well leave,then we don't have to listen to your whining and bitching!

Girls in Laos have bigger tits and beer's much better,.

Titties and beer...................

there boys but the beers good

Thai authorities have issued a statement in regard to this incident. They say it is OK the speedboat wasn't damaged and the captain, aside from a bit of a hangover, is doing fine.

That would be about right,same as drink driving,no problems

We were on scene at 2030. Unfortunately what you heard was correct, although number of deceased not confirmed. Horrific accident scene.

I live in sanameng and heard the ambulances going up and down for hours

When I read comments on TV I am really ashamed to be part of the Farang community.

If you think there is no corruption in your own country you are seriously mistaken, the difference is : here they say they will share the 300k thb.

Makes me wonder why all posters who are so full of hate over this country are still living here ..... wait wait, I know, because of cheap beers and girls wich makes up for all the atrocities you claim the Thais to do....

Before talking about flaws of Thailand you should really look back at your country and its flaws.

Here here,im from the UK and have lived in Thailand for 18 years,and it does have some flaws,but i feel safer going out at night here than in my home town of Liverpool for a night out,were you can also get mugged quite easily and beaten up for a small amount of money,or in some cases,just for looking at somebody the wrong way.I wont be leaving Thailand any time soon.But my heart goes out to the poor woman who was killed and her family,just hope they got the right guys.

I find Mohamad's story very strange, seems something fishy about it.

Pretty common to get mugged on the road in Phuket late @ night.

Happened to a friend of mine - in that case, they just rode up & kicked him off the bike.

I lived in phuket for 12 years and ran a restaurant in patong beach.Every year during the low season the crime rate goes up,and its not just falangs that get mugged,it happens to plenty of Thais, usually coming home from work in the early hours of the morning,and they dont fight back they just hand over what they have,and alot of the time it goes unreported. I Personally used to drive my staff home in the car if we finished up late,as they were scared to go over the hill to khatu.It was also well known that if you drove out of patong to kamala or the hill to karon early hours of the morning that there used to be gangs hanging around waiting for an easy target,it was just common sense not to travel up there early hours of the morning.

Not fishy, Slum and drug peaple all over the places. Also here in Pattaya. They are lazy to work, just stealing is easy. I got my own lesson. I got surRouded by 5 locals last Octobre. What chance do you hace without weapon? The problem is that we foreigners can't carry guns. In my home country i can do that. So we are just victims in this country. In my case police was useless.

Not even regular Thais can walk around with a gun, but they do... and plenty people back home do as well, so just because you live here, you wont break the law? Shit, im well qualified to handle myself but if your surrounded or up against weapons, it doesnt seem all that bad idea to break the law and carry a pistol.

I looked it up on http://www.gunpolicy...gion/thailand It estimates10,000,000 civilian Thais are licensed for guns. It says 15.6% civilians but presume multiple gun ownership per person has blown out the data integrity. Am waiting for clarification re stun guns.

Other info is:

In Thailand, only licensed gun owners may lawfully acquire, possess or transfer a firearm or ammunition

Applicants for a gun owner’s licence in Thailand are required to prove genuine reason to possess a firearm, for example, hunting, sports shooting, collection, self defense

The minimum age for gun ownership in Thailand is 20 years

An applicant for a firearm licence in Thailand must pass background checks which consider personal conduct, living condition, income and criminal records

Where a past history, or apprehended likelihood of family violence exists, the law in Thailand stipulates that a gun licence should be denied or revoked

Can a falang legally own a gun?

Sister in law took the Police exam in bkk two years ago. was openly told the pass mark was 400k, she did not pay and failed. Same with teaching exam, that was 200k a few years ago.

My nephew has been trying to get in for years,hes got a degree and has passed all the entrance exams,only to be told there is no place for him,the reason why is he does not have the money to pay his way in,he comes from a poor family,but has done well academicly,the bad part of it is he is a good guy and wants to join the police to serve society and not line his pockets,not to many like that around.

These kinds of incidents are very common in Thailand to Kids of So Called Hi-So Families. This is how the Rich in Thailand take care of there kids, load them will lot of money all the time.

This is nothing New.....Another week or so and we wont hear anything about this incident again....

same as the 16yrd who killed all those people on the Bangkok express-way in the mini bus