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1 hour ago, bristolboy said:

The President is commander-in-chief of people in the armed services only. He is not the Commander-in-Chief of civilians.

According to Article II, Section 2, Clause I of the Constitution, the President of the United States is “Commander in Chief of the Army and Navy of the United States, and of the Militia of the several States, when called into the actual Service of the United States.”^[58]

^{https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commander-in-chief}

And, no, a military officer does not owe personal loyalty to any officer nor to the commander-in-chief. 

 

Exactly what I said.....a soldier/sailor/airman, etc., does not salute the man/woman, but the rank.

24 minutes ago, Grouse said:

Do you not understand irony?

 

I do Grouse, but it occurred to me that it was just a brain f***, something that's way too common on TV!!

7 hours ago, Sir Dude said:

 

Lol....well, the very fact that he got elected fair and square says more about the Dems failure than it does about Trump. How can it get so wrong that people are willing to elect someone like Trump on a whim? Very sad really, and some deep looking in the mirror needs to happen in the US. 

 

The better of a bad pair offering themselves??

12 hours ago, mikebike said:

How cute. You think working for the government is like being in the military.

 

Have you missed that the President is the Commander in Chief??

 

It's very similar in a lot of ways, not the least being that you are paid by the public purse, and that requires a large degree of loyalty.

 
50 years of "progress".
 
50 years ago people knew and were friends with their neighbours, PTSD was virtually unknown, epople had respect for other people, presidents were more honest, police were friendler, the world was a lot slower and a nicer place.

Yep, and the very breakdown in the way our societies function has been driven by successive generations of young people.

They're the ones who put their feet on train seats, jump turnstiles to avoid a fare, have no respect for older people, advocate for illicit drugs to be freely available, believe current laws (for anything) are too harsh, and on it goes.

Yes, the very same young people.

I think this movement is pi$$ing into a 40 knot northerly, but more than anything, I hope I'm very wrong.

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As President May clearly is able to strike Syria and risk igniting WW3; I don't see what additional "sovereignty" could possibly be desired!

 

I note that Germany was against taking action but President Macron was able to direct France's forces with impunity.

 

What is this lack of sovereignty the Brexiters feel is so important that they are happy to live with huge economic damage as a result? Laws on the geometry of bananas?

 

No, a PEOPLES vote on the deal is a good idea! Heh, it's democracy innit?

 

President May? I'm sure she'll like the new title.

 

So the PEOPLE didn't vote last time, and that's why we now we need a PEOPLE'S vote.

 

Got it!!

 

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Just as the election of any 'left' government should. Who could be so silly as to vote for the left?? Better have a rerun then.

Such a stupid proposition!

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Wrong quote above, and I can't edit.

The one I intended quoting was a post that contended major decisions need confirmation by a second vote.

That is stupid.

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Only if you're pissed off with the result.

Just as the election of any 'left' government should. Who could be so silly as to vote for the left?? Better have a rerun then.

Such a stupid proposition!

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As President May clearly is able to strike Syria and risk igniting WW3; I don't see what additional "sovereignty" could possibly be desired!
 
I note that Germany was against taking action but President Macron was able to direct France's forces with impunity.
 
What is this lack of sovereignty the Brexiters feel is so important that they are happy to live with huge economic damage as a result? Laws on the geometry of bananas?
 
No, a PEOPLES vote on the deal is a good idea! Heh, it's democracy innit?

The vote two years ago was democracy.

If the people don't like the result of a general election, is there another vote??

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6 hours ago, BobBKK said:

You think Trump is evil?  I think he's a megalomaniac who should never, ever be POTUS but evil??? 

 

Anyway it's not about Trump it's about loyalty to the OFFICE. Resign if you have ethical issues not whine after getting fired and start revealing private dinner confidences. If POTUS asked for loyalty why not?  if he can't be loyal to his boss F or FO.

 

 

 

Loyalty to the OFFICE/POSITION is dead right.

 

I recall when I joined the Air Force many years ago and it was drilled into recruits that you don't salute a person, you salute the rank/office he holds.

8 hours ago, BobBKK said:

Doesn't 'pique' my interest one iota. It's a disgrace an ex Director writes a 'kiss and tell' book. Shows who he is, what he is and what his loyalty is and it ain't higher than the kneecaps of a grasshopper.

 

 

Agreed BobBKK.   Scandalous conduct from a person who held his position.

Yes the evidence and charges would need to be serious for the largely political process of impeachment to proceed. But it's not just Mueller. What's going on in New York that touches on his business criminality could easily be of more consequence. Let the investigations, multiple ones, proceed to their conclusions. Yes, that takes time. It can't be any other way. 

But a year ago, impeachment was imminent, and until recently, several posters on TV, maintained that line. What's changed? There has been a real weakening of that position among those who were crowing, right down to, impeachment is difficult, and he may not be impeached.

Incidentally JT, is 'trump' the same as Trump?

I don't follow the use of the quotation marks/inverted commas. Could you explain?

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As said countless times before, people vote with their pocketbooks. If the economy is thriving.....well you get the idea. Those of us who work hard don't like the re-distribution of wealth mantra the left chants. If I had my way there would be one tax rate for all Americans with no hidden loopholes. From dishwashers to billionaires....all should pay the same rate.

I agree entirely Evenkeel.

The great problem with the left is they practise the 'politics of envy' and 'class warfare' convincing the losers that if they take from the 'rich' (read..those who are prepared to work) that the poor (read...those who won't work and contribute) will reap the benefits, and nothing could be further from the truth.
It's vote buying, pure and simple.


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9 hours ago, sawadeeken said:

Wow.......... I hope very much --- That you are kidding.....................

As far as 'Men' selling themselves....... I cannot imagine a market..... EXCEPT among the GAYS............. And certainly you will never get a 'single Baht' In Thailand, for your sexual expertise, from a Thai woman............ You might have a bit of luck with that with a 'rich widow' in Beverly Hills or Hollywood (if you are above average looking)............ But please don't hold your breath waiting for that to happen in Thailand......... I have a friend from USA that scams a few of the girls on dating sites, making the girls think he is 'Marriage Material' and the girls use much of their parent's college money on Him then they 'kick him out'....... That guy the worst of the 'cheap-charlies'........... 

IMHO that guy is worse than the girl mentioned in OP and may be responsible for 'Hardening' a nice girl into what we have in this OP............

If you aren't going to marry the girl and you know it from the start...... Then..... You are the culprit......... STEALING YOUR OWN PERSONAL PLEASURES FROM HER RATHER THAN 'PAYING' THE 'GOING PRICE' .....................

And if you are one that believes that 'they' are being 'pleased' by YOU..... In Bed ...... and you are 'earning your keep' by pleasing HER.............. Then in my humble opinion............

You may wake up 'shocked' someday......... But then again, you may never wake up to realize 'what is wrong', because you already 'KNOW' it is 'everybody else'...... LOL.....

 

I was kidding Ken!!

Subcontract this case out to Presdient Trump....he'll authorize a missile strike up this guy's a$$hole, a heat seeker for good measure!

OP did well......now you know the modus operandi OP, stick with the hard position, even if you know them for years.

 

Wanting to borrow next year will be too fast, or next decade.

52 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

Memory loss, Bruce?

 

 

Quote Bruce............

 

I stand corrected, Clinton did authorize a four day joint US-UK bombing campaign of Iraq in 1998 for failure to comply with agreements on WMD.    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bombing_of_Iraq_(1998)

 

 

It was only 4 days Neeranam, so I guess that doesn't count??

14 hours ago, Skywalker69 said:

Infowars's Alex Jones blasts Trump over airstrikes: 'He's crapping all over us'

 

Infowars founder Alex Jones ripped into President Trump on Friday night after the president authorized military airstrikes in Syria, saying the decision made him "sick."

 

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/383141-infowars-alex-jones-cries-over-trump-airstrikes-hes-crapping

So according to Alex Jones, he hasn't always been opposed to Trump (or is that "trump"?).   Trump has become a piece of crap, contrary to what many here suggest, i.e., he's always been a piece of crap, since long before he was elected. 

 

Jones said, “If he had been a piece of crap from the beginning, it wouldn’t be so bad,”  and that implies.....no, it says, that he thought Trump was OK until the strikes in Syria.

 

Be careful with what you quote, because it doesn't always work for you.

 

Then I read......

 

Alexander Emric Jones is an American radio show host and conspiracy theorist. 

 

Another conspiracy theorist??    He'll be right at home on TV!!!

Buy badly.....sell badly!

 

He wasn't the first to lose on real estate, Trump Tower or otherwise, and he won't be the last.

5 hours ago, Expatthailover said:

Not all operations are announced eg when they went after bin laden.

Where civilians may be impacted I suppose they try to do the right thing  ( a situation very foreign to the current POTUS).

Overall I will believe this when it happens.

The CIC who prefers government by twittering over proper statesmanship seems to change his mind more often than an incontinent billionnaire changes his underwear.

Being militarily advised by someone who is almost as wacky and deranged as himself adds more uncertainty to the mix.

Being a professional and capable military person who has to stand by while those 2 renowned draft dodgers decide the fate of the world must be decidely challenging.

Cowards running the mightiest military machine in the world..ye gods

Overall I will believe this when it happens.

 

 

Please keep up....it HAS happened!!

With all the crap on Trump (or is that "trump") flooding TV, I'm so happy to see the trivia of a lawn mower not starting, the minutiae of everyday life.

 

 

HOW REFRESHING!!!   I love it.

Ho hum, I go on an enforced vacation, spend a few weeks in Bali, and nothing's changed!!

 

At east the Bintang was cold, and the Maskaan Padang still the best cuisine on the planet.