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1 hour ago, Kwasaki said:
Not much punishment going on at boarder crossings Mr Beaune the French ports are doing great job occording to France 24 News channel. ????
Back to September 2020: "We will not compromise over Brexit deal due to UK warnings of massive lorry jams and two-day delays at the Channel ports, says France's europe minister." (Clément Beaune)
Brexit: France will not be intimidated by talk of lorry jams (connexionfrance.com)
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24 minutes ago, pixelaoffy said:
Imagine that , a French Gov Minister telling UK about 'punishing itself '. Throwing stones in glass houses Monsieur
imagine that, Brexiteers telling "the EU wants to punish the UK"; When It's Always Someone Else's Fault . Render to Caesar the things that are Caesar's
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13 minutes ago, vinny41 said:
Frexit hasn't gone away just the main player has changed
Could ‘Frexit’ Be Next? Macron Urged To Make A French Referendum
https://www.euroweeklynews.com/2020/12/31/could-frexit-be-next-macron-urged-referendum/
Personally I don't think any of the founding members will be next to leave, more likely to be one of the newcomers
If you look at the EU project purely from a business point of view then once your country becomes a net contributor then it becomes a decision of cash in your chips once you have fill your boots
The EU gathers a bunch of small weak nations, stronger together vs China, the US, Russia, the UK.. all nations wishing nothing but the EU to collapse.
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1 hour ago, onebir said:
"Brexit is the EU punishing Britain"
FTFY
it seems BJ's father got your "FTFY" loud and clear.
Just wonder why he never applied for Turkish citizenship,
LOL
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The EU didn't collapse despite B. Johnson' s efforts and Beaune is just saying "Goodbye and good luck"
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4 hours ago, tebee said:
Of course, not, he got the simplified version, written in crayon, with lots of pretty pictures......
+ written diagonally
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3 hours ago, puipuitom said:
When you donot know French,.. ok, but that you are not even able to copy 4 words without a mistake ...
"Dieu est mon droit"... No: "dieu et mon droit" means in English: "God and my right".
see Dieu et mon droit - Wikipedia
There must be another joke in, as I donot understand the second part ???? ""Honi soit qui mal y pense" sorry, my French is not so good) Honi soit qui mal y pense - Wikipedia.
In current French usage, the phrase may be used ironically to insinuate the presence of a hidden agenda or a conflict of interest.
Modern French wording "Dieu est mon droit" - this explains the typo. But it's not incorrect - it's an other translation.
I have the reflex to write in modern French -
This article below explains the motto "Dieu et mon droit" and lists different translations, variants and usages
Diderot's Encyclopédie lists the motto as Dieu est mon droit, which Susan Emanuel translated as "God is my right"
Dieu et mon droit | Monarchy of Britain Wiki | Fandom
Same for " honi" which I first wrote "honni" as usual (modern French) but corrected because it's here spelled "honi" (ancient) -> in everyday life we use the expression meaning "Shame on him who thinks evil of it"
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17 minutes ago, CorpusChristie said:You speak my language , I have no need to learn yours
"Dieu est mon droit"
"Honi soit qui mal y pense"
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2 minutes ago, CorpusChristie said:
It was explained that those were not lies , it was peoples lack of understanding English that was the problem .
People who didnt know what "could" means , thought those slogans were lies .
People who speak English fluently know the difference between a promise and a prediction
it starts with a promise (manipulation) -> ends as a prediction (illusion)
be happy it's XMas!
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20 hours ago, Kwasaki said:
My Friend Boris is doing s great job.
The bitterness and hate of some UK people will turn against them.
Yes, B.Johnson made the Continental blockade possible, LOL
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5 hours ago, CorpusChristie said:
Yes, maybe he was given correct info in the morning and when he divulged that same info in the evening, it was out of date info , as there was a continuous arrival of lorries throughout the day
Anticipation is key..
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3 hours ago, katana said:
Should just put the goods on a dinghy with an illegal immigrant and they will get a French naval escort across the channel for good measure.
Of course, and a Banksy sponsored shuttle will take them to destination while the RN keeps an eye on French fishermen trespassing British waters
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3 hours ago, vandeventer said:
China is America biggest enemy and Russia is in second place. But if or when the Dems. get into power they will be friends again, as Trump always has them on the ropes and gives them nose bleeds.
Trump has shown off his reluctance to antagonize Putin.
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2 hours ago, Nout said:
You appear to be an apologist for illegal immigrants, people traffickers and French corruption.
What do you mean by " French corruption"?
These illegal migrants want a better life in the UK, and nowhere else, coming from nations knowing what " Commonwealth" relates to.
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10 minutes ago, Loiner said:
I'm not absolutely sure what your point is here, but absolutely sure it's rubbish anyway. You told us that "...it's a little bit more difficult to agree on a compromise when 27 sovereignties work together.." and I understand that to mean the EU cannot be pragmatic.
Whatever you are trying to say above does not display any pragmatism in obtaining a deal with a strong negotiator like the UK. Your 27 as 1 vs 1 would be accepted as bullying in the school yard, but hasn't been successful anyway. Time for the strongest of your 27 to start being pragmatic with your remainder.
what else do you have in your hand when EU fishermen receive financial support in compensation for losing access to British waters?
What do you have in your hand when negotiating with China or the US?
What do you get whith your post-Brexit deals that you wouldn't get as member as the EU?
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7 minutes ago, Loiner said:Are you telling me that because there are 27 differing vested interests in the EU that it is not possible for any of them to be pragmatic on anything?
No, the decision making process when each of the 27 remaining members has voice - therefore sovereignty - but then speak together as one (the EU), is not as easy as when the "opponent party" composed of only 1 entity - in this case the UK - decides for itself. That's the difficulty in this deal. 27 as 1 vs 1
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2 minutes ago, billd766 said:
It is far easier to compromise with a smaller number than with 27 countries who each have their own interests as #1 and the EU somewhere following,
You're right.
it was also easier to compromise in order to "please" and keep a member, than to compromise to cope with the consequences of a leaving member's sole decision.
The Single Market integrity is as prevalent to the remaining members, as it was to the UK - there is no change.
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1 minute ago, Loiner said:
But the same pragmatism does not extent to Macron's antics with the fish, or Barnier's obstinacy with attempts at ongoing rule over the UK?
Macron is well aware of the British way of negociating. As well as the Single Market sovereignty matters to EU members as much as UK's one matters to you and others.
The difference is it's a little bit more difficult to agree on a compromise when 27 sovereignties work together, than when you are alone.
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6 minutes ago, Loiner said:In a matter of 24 hours Macron/France had changed it's mind and would reopen borders. Is that 'a justified move' or a plan that they immediately realised would not work?
Closure on Sunday evening, reopening with sanitary protocol a day later - Monday - it's not bad news for both sides of the Channel - Pragmatism has to overcome ideology - sometimes.
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10 minutes ago, Loiner said:
I doubt either of those two have read any of my posts. Which ones are deadly serious? You must be the one who knows.
didn't you say that it was a Macron setup to punish the UK etc etc.. as usual ? While it was a justified move if if your government's warning is to be taken seriously
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1 minute ago, Loiner said:
To which posts in this topic does the Pope/Hancock think you should warn us of the deadly serious implications?
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2 minutes ago, Loiner said:
Is that a quote from somewhere, or your considered opinion?
What is deadly serious - the virus variant, or panic border closures, or truck queues, or some sort of effect on the lack of trade deal - this topic?
as you probably know it was the message sent Urbi et Orbi by M. Hancock .. the same bad news Macron received .. that caused the temporary border closure until sanitary protocol allows trafic UK-> Fr again
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