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25 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

It has been explained to you numerous times that the law does allow an individual to enter a country to claim asylum, smuggling themselves in to do so is not against the law.

 

 

 

 

differently  worded " an individual smuggled by a large poly-criminal network involved in migrant smuggling towards Western Europe, therefore financially supporting trafficking of human beings and drug trafficking  ... is against the law, ask Europol  

37 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

There is no right to generalize, though it is a useful tool to convince people to commit acts of terrorism. 

 

 

 

 

acts of terrorism are like repeated patterns,  that's how - we - as targets  - learn to recognize weak signals. Attitude towards law enforcement officers is one of them.

1 hour ago, Sujo said:

So todays migrants are acting the same as locals these days. Integrated nicely.

Yes Europeans in Europe. 

Some others ( outside Europe) consider their folklore prevails over local fabric.  

27 minutes ago, simple1 said:

is the person in the OP an Islamist terrorist sympathiser- no evidence he is, you're just attempting to smear the guy

Some of his predecessors proved French were stupidly naive on this topic, France would be well inspired to learn from Israel.

It's coming. 

"smear the guy.." LOL, what do I care, he already made comments on France and French Police,  sorry if we don't allow camping on public space, we don't provide room service to squatters.  

1 hour ago, simple1 said:

 

In other words you have nothing, other than copy and past of right of centre rhetoric.

Just a postcard from the Islamic Republic of Afghanistan... "In Afghanistan, members of the Islamist party Hezb-i-Islami set the French flag ablaze. Its leader, Gulbuddin Hekmatyar, warned Macron that if he doesn’t “control the situation, we are going to a third world war and Europe will be responsible.”

Ask for asylum in France, LOL 

Anti-France sentiments rise in Muslim world, thousands protest French cartoons - world news - Hindustan Times

19 hours ago, tgw said:

 

but they should.

the perspective of spending the night or 24 hours in a police cell means nothing to many people, and they know a court won't take action either. all what these people do is waste police resources and resources of the judiciary system. rationally considered, there isn't much the police can do except inflict pain to motivate law breakers to follow police orders.

way too much time is wasted on such issues, especially in France. maybe they could have tried teargas before beating them. but police needs a fast and efficient way to enforce public order, a huge waste of resources for removing uncooperative people followed by weeks of moot legal proceedings clogging up the legal system, prisons and holding cells in addition of the associated cost is unacceptable.

illegal migrants cause more troubles of all sorts, and in the long run, than French Police  

19 hours ago, Sujo said:

They refuse to acknowledge that refugees are a nett gain. They just dont like foreigners.

"Refugees" and illegal migrants are a nett gain to the country of origin, ask Western Union 

2 hours ago, simple1 said:

 

It is ridiculous to compare UK to Afghanistan. Afghanistan has had a cruel civil war for years, invaded twice in our lifetimes, with a massively corrupt unstable government. Afghanis are fighting for their country, but losing their lives in the hundreds every month with no reasonable outlook they will defeat the Taliban and IS. (one assumes due to endemic corruption).

 

US is pulling out, which it has declared it will do for a number of years, contrary to big mouth trump previously declaring he would never publicly declare intentions or negotiate with the enemy during war. I don't know the percentage, but many Afghan asylum seekers / refugees are Shiite. There are an estimated 1.5 million Afghan refugees in Pakistan and roughly four million Afghanis in Iran, composing those registered to live, approx one million refugees and an estimated one million 'illegals'. Accordingly it's a relatively small number trying to reach the West. It would be logical those trying to gain refugee status in the West are seeking to assist their families who have been refugees for years, some more than twenty years with no hope.  Last time the Taliban were losing territory hundreds of thousands of Afghans re-entered Afghanistan from Pakistan and Iran, obviously that's not going to happen again anytime soon, especially with IS added to the mix.

And of course you never mention booming population among the causes for migration. 

Afghanistan, Pakistan, Bangladesh, and alikes, poor countries, champions in demography

"Asylum seekers" from these countries could stop and chose to move to Uzbekistan, Tajikistan .. any country in "stan" .. instead of France, country of disbelievers. already fully "booked" has reached it's capacity.

2 hours ago, simple1 said:

 

Under international law it is not illegal to enter a country and claim asylum. Has France changed it's domestic laws to ban people entering France to claim asylum; if so please provide a link to the legislation.

Smuggle into Europe under whatever false claim - the best root beeing the " asylum" . Get rejected from different countries, then finally end up in France - last port to the Atlantic..

Stay for a decade, undocumented. But do get social healthcare, have a few kids giving you rights to social benefits, make a living, settle. 

Then with the help pf comprehensive NGOs, get your situation legally cleared, .bring in the rest of your family .

You just need to be patient , it works -  you're just 1 among constant 1M without documents. processing the same way. 

Occasionnally, complain about French Pölice, racism, islamophobia... aboiut your living conditions, and French core values. and there are not enough mosques, schools to meet your needs. 

Your attempt to compare French migrants to usual illegal migrants from Asia , MENA, Africa, is utmost ridiculous, French people want their country back. With good reasons. Period.

2 hours ago, simple1 said:

 

France is not Islamised, it's a secular society. As to your follow on comment, how would you feel if other countries stated "Aren't the French meant to live in France - deport all French migrants!"

"France is not islamised" ..but  French get randomly sentenced to death when trespassing certain foreign laws, 

On 11/28/2020 at 1:21 AM, Chomper Higgot said:

 

 

People who have used the means they have at their disposal to move to another country for a better life.

 

The only significant difference is the ‘means at their disposal’.

 

If I were born in Afghanistan I’d do all in my power to get out of the place, a little more honesty on that matter might see others admitting so would they.

 

Migrants are migrants.

"if you were born in Afghanistan .."  you're right with a little  common sense these people should refrain from producing at large scale migration candidates nobody in the West is willing to sponsor endlessly. Polygamy has consequences in a poor country. 

"A better life" ... for young men , because Europe isn't good for women according to their standards, LOL    

To be a migrant isn't an ambition in life, even more when you didn't really chose the country you moved to and find yourself stuck in France.   

On 11/27/2020 at 12:59 AM, Chomper Higgot said:

Which Afghan’s have committed these crimes in France?

 

Or is it you don’t know what ‘compatriot’ means?

I could provide the list of recent crimes - terror attacks - committed by so called Afghan - or no- -  refugess/ fake and real asylum seekers in France but it would be consided off topic, LOL  

7 hours ago, candide said:

It would have been publicized in the same way.

not true.

See the Traore family. case famous for beeing a gang family of outlaws ( but it's forbidden to even mention it).  supported - promoted - rewarded by BLM or alikes , and of course far left activists 

French Police is harassed and targeted by those who today both complain of having to endure incivilities, threats, etc..  from neighbors they never dare to denounce, and criticize French Police for its weakness ( compared to North African countriers ),  but in the same demonstrate against  its brutality . The truth is that these people are more afraid of having to confront their neighbors, sons, relatives,  than they fear the Police. 

We in France are victims of our democratic laws. 

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