sandgroper2

5 hours ago, Grubster said:

All the elderly vote in the US making it more difficult to hammer us as they would like to do. Many times there has been plans to cut SS there but very few congressmen want their name on a bill like that. Not because they don't want it, but they want those votes.

          At some point your government may want to get their greedy hands on that Superannuation money too. First step would be to make withdrawals taxable at any age. I would bet that happens.

"First step would be to make withdrawals taxable at any age. I would bet that happens".  And so it should happen, draw your super, blow it, give up working then come crying to us tax payers for a handout. Collect tin cans and bottles.

6 hours ago, 4MyEgo said:

 

Unfortunately not, however the government started compulsory superannuation some years ago so as to slowly get rid of the pension.

 

For us folk, it goes like this, if you have worked for 35 plus years, you get the full pension, if less, it goes on a prorata basis, i.e. years worked over a formula.

 

As Simple1 replied in a previous reply on this post, he is of the opinion that it hasn't passed legislation yet, and if that is the case, for those of us who have worked for 35 years plus, we will not get our pensions cut down after 26 weeks away from Australia, that is, if we return to claim it, in my case 10 years away and will have to stay in Australia for 2 years to qualify, yes and absolute joke, because this rule would turn most of us off, because we know the cost to live in Sydney for those 2 years would cost more than the pension in rent alone.

 

F'n politicians, promise you when your young that if you work and pay your taxes, you will get a full pension, no talk about you not being able to get it if you decide to retire overseas earlier than the OAP age, so they make amendments to the legislation, year in, year out, trying to make it harder for us expats to get what we were told we would get originally, suffice to say, I wouldn't be surprised if the 2 year rule is lifted to 5 by the time I reach the OAP age, that or they put another amendment on it, e.g. making it no longer portable.....555

 

On the other hand if you live in Australia until you reach OAP age and worked 35 plus years, you can get the pension and take it with you, meaning for those of us who are smarter and exit the slave trade earlier and do not pay the additional taxes, in my case 10 years, they want to make life more difficult for me, by doing this, fortunately, I have enough to last me till I reach 101, suffice to say, if I can make it worth my while, I will go back and sit it out, just to stick it too them 555   

"They" did not make it more difficult for you. You chose not to pay the ferry man, so you dont get to the other side. Stop blaming others. Man up.

On 12/7/2016 at 7:09 PM, 4MyEgo said:

 

Do you think these mungrals would give a rats ass, you can give it a shot, but I am sure the would refer you to the legislation, which says, reside in Australia for 2 years prior to the OAP age.

 

Good luck and let me know if you come up with any other thoughts, because I could use one, e.g. Wife and I are divorcing, well there goes half the pension, next 555

 

 

If you can prove you are medically unfit to return, you  cannot return, ignore myego ridiculous comments.

4 hours ago, Grubster said:

I opted out of Medicare as I have full VA care but neither of those are ever cancelled for leaving the country, they can only be used in country though except for Retired Military, they get coverage world wide. Opting out of Medicare got me $100 + extra on my SS.  So I have no room to complain as you clearly do. From what I've heard about prices down under it seems like retiring there is not very doable. Maybe they just want you to work till death, then they can keep it all.

I tried to opt out of medicare as i dont use it and live in LOS. Was advised that if i opt out of medicare as i live overseas, i would have to pay the max tax on my military pension. Have you lodged a tax return since you dropped medicare?

23 minutes ago, 4MyEgo said:

 

Just out of curiosity;

 

1) Were you in Oz when for 2 years prior when you applied for the pension or less than 2 years and were deemed a non-resident

 

See to me there is some confusion, i.e. I cannot find anything on any site saying that if you are assessed as a non resident you still get paid the OAP, but have to stay in Oz for 2 years or payments will be stopped.

 

I have seen it saying that the applicant has to be a resident and be in the country for 2 years to be able to apply for the OAP, now they wouldn't be saying it this way to turn us away, would they, because I like the way you have explained it, not that I doubt you, but is there a link that stipulates your version, or is it just the way it happened with you ?

 

To me, if this is the case, the government or department i.e. Human Resources or Centrelink or whoever should state the facts more clearly, e.g. If you are a non resident, you will have to return to Oz 2 years prior to apply and receive your pension effective upon approval, however once payment begins, i.e. within a month, you will have to remain in Oz for 2 years before it can be portable, i.e. transferred to you in the country you choose to reside.

Born  in Oz, worked, never left till age 55, then came to LOS for holidays twice a year, sometimes once a year, my holidays were usually for abut 6 months. Turned 65, got part old age pension. Never stayed Oz more than one month. Sup benefits stop after 26 weeks, i think. When i go  back to Oz , i intend to stay permanently, but change my mind after a coupla weeks and return to LOS. What may make a difference is that i am ex military, get military pension and pay Oz tax on it. Thats abut it ol son. Clear as muddy water , ay! I am  only a non resident in the eyes for the Dept Defence. Which   means stuff all. Bunch of <deleted>.

1 hour ago, 4MyEgo said:

 

That sounds fair, at least if you are staying in Aus, the OAP money can go towards renting a shoe box in Sydney while you sit it out for 2 years eating pub specials for breakfast, lunch and dinner.

 

 

Several Oz govt depts have different ideas about who is a resident, you can be declaired  a non resident by one but still a resident by another. Has happened to me. I still  getthe OAP, part actually, and only go home 4 weeks a year. And when i land, i ring up  centrelink tell them i have come back and get my allowances up and running again. Some people on here are talking out their rear orifice  as usual.

2 hours ago, Grubster said:

And all foreigners would be exempt from paying into it.

How would they know their departure date? ie. death.

10 hours ago, zakk9 said:

The buses all have Sunlong logos and it says Sunlong on the side of each of them. Sunlong is a Chinese bus manufacturer based in Shanghai. In theory, they could be manufactured under license in Malaysia, but my guess is that the chances for that are rather slim.

 

Signage  means absolutely nothing. Get real . (Wanna buy a genuine Rolex, only 500baht)

60 bits of advice, are you any wiser???

15 minutes ago, 4MyEgo said:

 

I too was born in Oz and worked for over 35 years, are you saying that I wouldn't have to sit it out for 2 years back in Oz to get the pension ?

I can only tell you what my story is. That was 4 years ago.

On 12/6/2016 at 5:37 PM, madmax2 said:

I know of plenty of immigrants who have paid taxes all of their working life in Australia (over 50 years) and quite often do not qualify for a pension  because they have invested and saved their money and have to much value in their assets 

I know Aussies born in Australia who only work for a living when forced to do so by centrelink

There are dole bludgers in both categories, If Australia had no immigrants there would probably be no money to pay pensions to anybody 

"' If Australia had no immigrants" !!!!!!!!!!!!!!   The most lease thought out comment i have ever read, anywhere.

25 minutes ago, yellowboat said:

Yes there must be a manufactures part number and they must be cataloged somewhere.  Sure there were factory inspection reports and other proof of origin.  Just shows how hard it can be to do business in Thailand even when you follow the rules.  Hope Mr. Khanit has actually bought the buses in Malaysia. 

He didnt buy them in Malaysia, just read the posts from the knowalls.

33 minutes ago, BlindMagician said:

Customs make good money from delaying. They have the power to delay, and it's the owner who gets charged for it. Nice little scam.

That 300k per day will be spread up and down the customs hierarchy to keep all internal ducks in a neat row.

LoS

Land of scams

From what is reported , there is nothing to substantiate your serious accusations. i sincerely hope the authorities are doing what they say they are doping and  monitoring social media. Your a fool. Why do you make things up instead of talking facts.

1 hour ago, Freed1948 said:

Another example of corruption free Thailand/China??/

You must take your evidence that the buses were made in China to the authorities.

2 minutes ago, madmax2 said:

Immigration dept informs centrelink when you leave and return to Australia and have done so for years

Correct.

1 hour ago, Coaster11 said:

 

That's the real story right there.

 

Pensions definitely go a lot further in SE Asia but the country that pays it would rather the money be spent in their own country/economy....if they possibly can. Which is in direct conflict re ones own life style.

I was born in Oz, left there age 55, turned 65, went back , filled out my old age pension claim, came back here a week or so later, i get my old age pension. Two years???

20 hours ago, 4MyEgo said:

 

Sorry to burst your bubble: https://www.legislation.gov.au/Details/C2016B00091/Explanatory Memorandum/Text 

It aint in yet, but, to be wrong about something for the first time in about 25 years aint bad.

44 minutes ago, elgordo38 said:

Over jobbed trying to keep the wolf away from the door. Something had to give. Catching up on your sleep while driving is bad especially with a load of children in the back. Will not be long before the standard work day is 16 hours to keep ones head above water. 

Was that 6 assumptions? I lost count after 4.

12 minutes ago, 4MyEgo said:

 

Born in Australia would be more better.

More better, I dont think so.

17 minutes ago, SaintLouisBlues said:

If it's still a Bill and not an Act does it have any standing? Did it pass both Houses of the Australian parliament?

There is a Greek bloke who controls parliament. An  independent from South Australia. Australia has a very large Greek population, so, maby this much sort after change will fail.

2 hours ago, NanLaew said:

Oooohhh... this one should run and run....

 

Best pizza in LOS too.

You and your big mouth. And one guess who is gunna lead the band wagon.

Bloody great. My suggestion for a better headline would be " Only dinkum Ozzies to qualify for a fixed old  age pension".  The others, get a top up pension from the country of your birth.

I honestly believe this is the most ridiculous post ever. At the barest minimum, go home and make your country great.

52 minutes ago, Fookhaht said:

Way off. My calculations put it at 106.


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52 minutes ago, Fookhaht said:

Way off. My calculations put it at 106.


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I would need to see the full workings out but the kid is in the way. You may be right, it was 55 years since i went to school.

On 12/3/2016 at 6:39 PM, licka said:

Yes , but to claim he was doing 170 KPH is just a wild guess

Can he pick lottery numbers as well 

your being ridiculous, i did not say he was going 170