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OP regarding your comments I assume you live in Pattaya as I have never as far as I can remember experienced that in bkk. However I have noticed groups of Thais or groups of farang talking loudly in the theater...I have even smacked another farang over the head to shut the f up during the movie after telling him "politely" 2 times...he also refused to stand up for the king song before movie start at first...and thais got pissed (he eventually stood up disgruntled in the middle of the song). I have seen another farang who didn't stand up for the king song and was told to leave...actually got kicked out, they even paused the screen until he left...also in BKK
No, not that area. This was indeed BKK, I've been to the movies many many times here but only in recent years (the past 2 or so) have I seen this chatter-factor taint the movies somewhat.
Well done for your stand Evo, yet even I would hesitate at hitting another farang, perhaps a few kicks to his seat? Was there a fight when you did that?!
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You sir, seem to be a very important whitey/farang. The rest of us whiteys will from now on, try to obey and please you as much as possible.
Calm yourself brother muser of 10, I merely speak for the greater-farang in important matters of integrity, the Western Way and fair-dealings with others such as this.
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Pay extra for the private theaters at Multiplex, comfortable lounge chairs , interactive movie with cold air for storms blown on you as well as mist for rain and chairs move
LOL.
Do tell me more my man I am listening! Does BKK have any of these wonder complexes? I don't think many Thais would be going in!
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so no - thais allowed to sci-fi movies in Thailand? u scumbag degenerate piece of trash - thats out of order! just because you were all like super happy and impressed with the interstellar docking scene ?? that implies some scumbag and his trashy gf shouldn't be shocked ?? Where were you watching this filth in, Pat Pong2? Also what if its female foreign national with a Thai citizen, will your oppressive fascist views still be applied? Your baseless accusations are hard to fathom, never mind stomach. Trying taking your whiny pity party to less confusing movies - maybe Frozen, or that Thai movie where all the cougar actresses get their tits out (:: จันดาราภาค2)
LOL.
And this, dear folks, is why the PC uber-liberals are tapped in the head. They lack critical-thinking skills and just vent off a bunch of hot air to make up for their lacking intelligence. I never once stated they should not be allowed to watch sci-fi movies and please show me where I did if you think I did this.
BaaMango, you are indeed Baa-Baa Bo-Bo and this farang tells it like it is so STHU and keep the chatter down in the cheap seats.
Listen, you reactionary Japanese nationalist - WWII is over, and I don't use PC, and I am strictly Apple these days.
Typical degenerate.
LOL.
You really are dumb but also amusing as well. Also the way your original post is I'd say you are the degenerate talking like a sewer rat.
Btw, PC can mean Politically Correct as well as Personal Computer.
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You have to remember.It is their country not yours.I would say you have to bite the bullet and deal with it or stop going to the
Movies.I don't see anything changing.You'll see people talking in theaters in other parts of the world also.
Actually if that was followed to the letter there'd be a lot less thai-girls etc going to the movies, thus negating the noise-factor by some degree. So as it stands this farang won't be sitting silent if the noise-machines start their natter.
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I tend to agree with the OP's observations but my wife knows the solution and she's done this several times with total success.
She stands up and says in Thai "shut up, you really do have bad manners". Something like "Nong kaa, hoop bpak naa, jing jing Nong mai mee man-ra-yat leeuy!"
She makes sure she addresses the offender as being younger than her regardless, and says it loudly and clearly enough in her very best version of a Bangkok Hi-So accent (read telephone voice). The offender will shut up immediately.
The farang she's with typically hasn't got a clue what was said, and the teerak is too scared to open her mouth to even translate for him.
My missus is not your typical too scared to cause offence Thai person - much to my constant dilemma.
I was once at the movies alone and a couple of Chang wifebeater wearing two-week millionaires and their barfines were making a nuisance of themselves. An Aussie two rows back shouts out "hey youse dickheads, shut the F - Up". That seemed to work just as well.
considering there are other more polite ways to say it your wife is being outright rude as well. hoop bpack is hardly bangkok hi-so
Thank you for your opinion.
This is her response to your critique. She says that considering she respectfully uses the polite participles kaa and naa where appropriate, and the fact that the offender was younger than her, the use of a lo-so word such as hoop-bpak with a hi-so/polite accent/demeanour sounds considerably more effective than less confrontational variations of an interjection such as be quiet.
The point being, she wasn't trying to be polite, but gave the offender due consideration with the polite participles.
If you have further issues take it up with a native Thai for further clarification.
I agree with what your wife did, actually showing the 'polite way' will sometimes show weakness and a soft-touch to the other person, aggravating the situation further. Think of it as the middle-way, as opposed to the weak and too hard way.
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so no - thais allowed to sci-fi movies in Thailand? u scumbag degenerate piece of trash - thats out of order! just because you were all like super happy and impressed with the interstellar docking scene ?? that implies some scumbag and his trashy gf shouldn't be shocked ?? Where were you watching this filth in, Pat Pong2? Also what if its female foreign national with a Thai citizen, will your oppressive fascist views still be applied? Your baseless accusations are hard to fathom, never mind stomach. Trying taking your whiny pity party to less confusing movies - maybe Frozen, or that Thai movie where all the cougar actresses get their tits out (:: จันดาราภาค2)
LOL.
And this, dear folks, is why the PC uber-liberals are tapped in the head. They lack critical-thinking skills and just vent off a bunch of hot air to make up for their lacking intelligence. I never once stated they should not be allowed to watch sci-fi movies and please show me where I did if you think I did this.
BaaMango, you are indeed Baa-Baa Bo-Bo and this farang tells it like it is so STHU and keep the chatter down in the cheap seats.
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I watched InterStellar last weekend in Sydney, a group of young lads chatted throughout which really pissed me off. At the end I waited for them to leave then 'accidentally' trood heavily on one of lads feet. Felt better at the time but not proud of myself on reflection.
You did what you had to do man.
I think at least one person walked out of the film when I was watching it, probably due to it being much for them to understand?
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it's nice that they are talking to each other. all too often i see farang/thai couples sitting in restaurants and coffee shops staring into space, ignoring each other. or the girl is playing with her phone as as it is far more entertaining than talking to her bf who is sitting there like a muppet seemingly happy to be ignored.
back on topic... you could ask them to be quiet.
I did a few times.
Yet when the next critical, high-concept, technically be-dazzling scenes occured the chatter-monkey would start up again. Heck even the Chinese folks were struggling to get their heads around it but knew when to stop talking.
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'What 'Ho indeed old chap! Get hauling that cart and put your back into it little fuzzy-wuzzy'
Yet the best times back then in some ways, for all that I'm glad Thailand wasn't colonized.
Some areas don't thrive on being de-colonized though, just look at a few certain African nations after they got their country back!
Another load of gumf to add to the barrel load of gumf already on this thread.
So - these [African] nations, and their peoples, having cast off the yoke of colonialism are so much better off under the collars of their own? Yeah - right!
As someone else hinted at - the only reason Thailand was never colonised was a) there was nothing here any one particularly wanted and
the Thais, in usual cowardly fashion, gave away swathes of their land in exchange for not being fully colonised and is probably the single most reason that the country remains 2 centuries behind the rest of SE Asia. A list?
An archaic language with an archaic alphabet
A largely uneducated, downtrodden and brainwashed populace
A legal and judiciary system that is more akin to a dictatorship than a democracy
A society where corruption is not only endemic but considered a virtue
A society where the social rules of the underclasses are based purely on superstition
And, just to get back on topic, Thailand should have a vibrant and interesting film industry…..but it does not….blame the “pre-approval” process for all scripts, the censorship by PAD/Yellow/Royalist Culture Ministry bureaucrats….,the list of forbidden topics (no police corruption, no criticism of Buddhism state religion, no criticism of the military, no criticism of the judges/courts, no negative mention of royals, Thailand’s excessive liability laws which the connected and wealthy use to attack anyone who criticize them, etc)…….add to all that, the fact that most Thai film directors are from the upper or upper middle class, think along the royalist/PAD/Yellow line of bs, have almost no personal contact with ordinary working people in Thailand, are racist against people with darker skin, are against democratic values and structure, are pro-military coup, probably seldom read books, may only speak a little English and have limited international exposure……the final touch being that it is almost impossible for talented ordinary Thais to break thru the royalist stranglehold on the arts in Thailand….they are left to design and make neon signs for the nightlife, decorate tuk-tuks and paint large tour buses.
Cry me a river, dry your eyes and get over yourself already. Thailand ain't perfect but it's at least held it's own and not lost its teeth.
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I thought Gravity was better.First of all, the movie could have been better. I love sci-fi, this one had a lot of potential but I was not too impressed. My GF slept the whole movie so isn't that an example?!
Gravity was pants..
I haven't seen it but two things deterred me: G. Clooney was in it and the fact it's about two people floating aimless and adrift as the central theme.
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A while back I worked in the US and what I experienced in the cinemas/theaters there was in now way better than what's going on in Thai cinemas. One particular ethnic group seemed to relish in strolling around and making a commotion. No one ever reacted to this because of fear of the race card being played.
Why on earth were the dark folk strolling about?! Did they have ants in their pants?
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We go to the movies often - once a week if the movie is worth a try....always sit in the last row possible and have to admit we've never had the OP's concerns.....we live in CM and use two of the possible 5-6 theaters here so maybe it happens in a different area....
Only thing I've noticed are conversations if a cell phone rings - but that's not often....
We aiso saw Interstellar - easy disconnected (in some ways) movie to watch and understand - we watched it in Thai but I had the feeling it wouldn't have been much better in English - the movie buffs here and the critics seem to concur although I'm sure it will be a financial success....
We split movies approx 60/40 English/Thai (language) - a lot of US movies you really don't need to see in English to easily follow......
If it's a Thai made movie (except comedy) most are pretty enjoyable as they deal with feelings (subtle) versus the explosion/car chase/gun battle/roof top jumping/car crashing stuff that comes here....those I can get weary of......
Here it's not unusual for people the wai the King at the end of the observance - I like seeing that.....
This wasn't in CM.
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I go to the cinema here all the time. Never had a problem with this.
Lucky you! You either have a quiet cinema area or can tune-out local interference. For me when it's next-door neighbors it's kinda annoying and bothersome, especially hand movements and gestures. I can just about tolerate nearby noises.
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I thought Gravity was better.First of all, the movie could have been better. I love sci-fi, this one had a lot of potential but I was not too impressed. My GF slept the whole movie so isn't that an example?!
People who are more into local space films (earth orbit and moon) of planet-environmentalism etc don't tend to like Interstellar as that film is more pro-colonization and exploration. Plus maybe the fact G. Clooney and Sandra Bullock are in it gets them more into it?
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A very good start on what we and our Thai wives/gf's should do to make you happy.
Please continue to post what you want done and I for one will get right on it.
I'll try.
If the film is strongly scientific or sci-fi strongly reconsider taking your partner with you, yes that sounds harsh, but would a Thai female actually like a farang Sci-Fi? Especially one that doesn't have romance as a central theme?
If she is or you're like 'I'll take my missus and to hell with you.' then expain to her NOT to talk and ask questions during the movie. It's bloody ridiculous and ruins it for you as well as others, if I don't understand part of a movie I hold my tongue and wait until I can get online to check the synopsis on wiki.
So that's the third thing you can do, translate the movies synopsis into thai, so after she's restrained her chatterbox brain until the movie ends you can whip out the pre-printed wikipedia page and all is revealed for her to understand.
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'What 'Ho indeed old chap! Get hauling that cart and put your back into it little fuzzy-wuzzy'
Yet the best times back then in some ways, for all that I'm glad Thailand wasn't colonized.
Some areas don't thrive on being de-colonized though, just look at a few certain African nations after they got their country back!
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Took my wife to interstellar at pattaya central. Thought wow big cinema but many turds there. To start with the guy next to me decided to bring his kfc dinner box which he opened 10 mins into movie. Koreans behind me with only one he understood english so she had to translate what was going on. Then some russian in front of me who decided to film the climax on his i phone. People moving, turning and standing up. Will only go to small late night sessions now.
Yeah, what I don't like about the late-night movies is the mall is closed when you exit so a big descent down elevators (turned off) or a big queue for the lift, plus the fact you may miss the last BTS train.
I may start getting seats in the aisle territory in future, that way at least you don't get the 'both sides' effect.
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OP you don't need to calm down and you are not exaggerating at all.
First of all you will get it for telling the truth that's for sure, i hope you are prepared.
I will get it too for agreeing with you. Who cares. Let's do it.
I have never had any problem with Thais but it's a fact that when they do something, they do it with total disregard for others. This is a prime example of that. If they want to chat in the cinema while others are trying to enjoy what they paid for then they will do just that without a care in the world. Their mind just cannot understand that they are not alone in the world which is understandable. They are the never colonized nation.
Also it's well known that they can't do something just a little bit. They either don't do it or they go crazy and do it to the extreme. So expecting them not to overdo something is a strange request and i am afraid it is never going to be fulfilled.
Or give it a try and tell them next time: calm down a bit, please. The look on their face will be priceless. They are going to stare at you like you just arrived from another planet. You know like one of these challenged individuals(nobody home).
I loved your post, the way you wrote it.. You just nailed it.
Thanks friend. I know it sounds harsh on the darling ears of the 'gently gently, must go gently' brigade but I tell it like it is. If people aren't bothered by chitter-chatter during a movie you must be very thick skinned and almost blaise about the whole film experience, like the Thais are I guess.
The noisey ways of the Thais weren't too bad this time (while still annoying), but I can recall last year actually having to tell a bunch of noisy, conversationalist Thai lads, after many 'shussshes', literally 'Shut the fck up!' This was mid-movie btw and they were taking the yellow-stuff.
Amazingly, it actually worked, for all of a minute, then the shock wore off and they resumed their noises. I moved seats in the end where it was quieter.
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Ok folks, I don't normally let this bother me, but I don't care as it needs to be said.
Anyway, you sit in the movie theatre and WATCH the film. Please explain to your Thai ladies NOT to talk, yap and make distracting gestures with their hands. If needs be get them to write it down and ask later.
I know we sometimes talk a little bit during movies, I get that. I do that as well. But you don't overdo it.
I find this biggest issue at it's height during sci-fi films and some action/thriller films etc. The Thais typically DON'T get Sci-Fi films like we do. This is fine, they can maybe try and understand it (and get their own film industry sorted), but when I'm sitting there enjoying the film I find the farang and his Thai women are back and forth talking. This is not just one time I've noticed it every time I've gone to the movies, they always get these confused moments and bewildered like it's some puzzle for her brain to try and solve. Thai films are partly to blame as they inject goofy comedy into the films and don't have the viewer think for themselves that much, when a more serious film comes along they go into mental-puzzle loop mode. Nevertheless....
So anyway, he's trying to explain the story and plot, the mechanics of a scene, then she is questioning back still unsure as her bar-girl english can't cope with complex scientific theories and spaceflight trajectories.
Listen lads, it's probably NOT a good idea to take your Thai missus to a Sci-Fi movie, especially if they aren't going to understand, enjoy or relate to it. When other farangs (like me) are there it does spoil the movie experience.
The film in question - Interstellar
The scene - The emergency docking sequence!
Yeah, it's a splendidly hardcore, the Thais were utterly bamboozled by the shear majesty, cinematic prowess and masterstrokes of Farang movie magic. The farangs in the audience are awed in silent euphoria. The Thais on the other hand, while also impressed could not contain themselves and were chatter-boxing it up before, during and after, not sure what was going on, who was what etc.
Am i alone in noticing this type of thing? Or do I need to chill down a bit?
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Johnny, I would have asked to see a supervisor, to see where he would stand - it's totally ok to do so. Sorry to hear you got refused. Btw which airport was this?
I know in the USA with a proper visa of any kind (not the VWP though) you can appeal the decision and take it to a judge if DHS refuse you entry. Does Thailand have an appeals process also??
I'd have asked to speak to a supervisor, sorry to hear you got stung, 6 months is not enough to learn a language like a native speaker.
Yes there indeed is the possibility to appeal, and negotiate with the higher ups - but now Bkk Johnny revealed that he indeed didn't have the qualifications required for the visa he was entering with, so it's kind of moot point - too bad for the guy as travel isn't inexpensive.
Out of curiousity what are the qualifications required for an ED Visa? I was under the impression you had to show you actually had booked the education course via a letter for getting the visa and that was it? I never did the ED Visa route though.
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They told me if i want to come back better change my passport and get a tourist visa with at least 700 usd in cash, go and back ticket, hotel bookings and a plan to visit Thailand.... they want real tourists not foreigners living here on student visas.
When I arrived recently on a tourist visa I didn't have any hotels booked and they didn't ask for anything like that. They didn't ask to see cash, didn't ask for tickets back home either! Still YMMV I guess.
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They said i will be refused in other countries because of my thailand refusal stamp. They dont want to let me fly anywhere else than france.
I think they're lying to you. I could be wrong but it's worth double checking.
Maybe, if possible he could try that then try his luck at the landward border crossings in Cambodia or Malaysia.
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They didnt let me in. I asked 100 times to fly anywhere else than my country and it was refused. They said the only country i can go back is France. Immigration officer told me every ed visa will be checked.
This might sound a bit un PC but are you of N. African descent? He could well have been profiling.
Farangs taking their Thai partners to the movies - Keep the Chatter Down Please!
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I agree, that's a fair point and the best answer I can give is for the subtitles to be scrapped entirely until they can fix it and to rely on dubbing instead for other screenings.
It's too bad if farang with their partners can't understand it, but consider it an incentive to practice your Thai language skills.