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Saw this on twitter Today
From Pakistan
got stuck in Pattaya's biggest scam. just renting jet ski's for 30 mins made us spend 12 hrs at Police Station. search pattaya jet ski scam
He Has 55107 Followers on Twitter
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There will be a death or very. Serious injury soon because the scammers a getting more and more violent because it looks like now they have total control of the beach .
This message should be taken seriously by any person reading and complaints should go to all embassies to issue warnings because no one who tents a jet ski in pattaya is safe.
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Another Assault today
this afternoon at approx 3.45 pm 2 men and 2 ladies (maybe russian were attacked by the group at soi 11, they had to run for their lives while the jet ski thugs were throwing bottles and rocks there were a least 100 onlookers some had. to avoid flying bottles. Don't take my word for it Mr Mayor look at you camera system these people are very dangerous and your department can't even supply warning to visitors.
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I see the police vigorously go after an "unlicensed" squid vendor on the beach but the police don't seem to notice the unlicensed jet ski mafia robbing tourists of hundreds of thousand of baht every day.
Amazing.
Like the Mayor said: "it's complicated"
You and your side kick "saintofwhatever" need to get a life....... it sounds like you have made this jet ski deal your life's crusade? Please please tell me you have something better to do with your time, if not then that's very very sad!
JH
Jebhead if you are just on this thread to try and make problems please go somewhere else your comments are not appreciated.
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Some interesting Comments from Readers about The In Pattaya Now Article
Pattaya jet-ski scams continue unabated despite promises
Nov 10 2011
If Pattaya Council is really concerned about these scams,why don't they get warning notices in in the languages of the tourists and post them on ALL Hotel and guest house notice boards. Also the tourist authority of thailand could issue the same warnings. If they want these tourists to return they need to take some action. I am sure the Embassies of the tourists concerned would gladly provide translations of the warnings for their citizens. If jet ski operators are found to have scammed people their licences should be revoked and never renewed again. Who owns the jet skis ? anyone in a position of influence ?
Nov 11 2011
I often see a pick-up with about three jet-skis being towed behind come down my soi and the stencilled livery on the side of the pickup looks exactly like the logo for Pattaya City Hall. I leave you to think of the implications.
Nov 11 2011
nothing short of a total ban will bring this cash cow to a halt and that will not happen. there is simply too much money being made, enough to keep everybody happy except the innocent tourists. All the talk about registration it's all smoke and mirrors, if any scheme is dreamed up it will be ignored and things will continue with people being openly robbed of huge sums in broad daylight
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Buy a coffee and use free internet at coffee world.
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From my observation's they seem to be happy when making a scam lots of laughing and high 5s when scamming ,I recently I saw three indians about to get scammed and the scammers started accusing them BUT next thing it looked like one of the scammers made or received a call and the scam stopped.
In my opinion they are all controlled by the same people .
And also when they are running around offering 300 baht and 500 baht jet ski rides it looks very obvious someone in contact with the police department are giving them the ok.
These scammers are so desperate and if they get stopped for photo editing next you will notice people are getting crashed into by a scammer while out on the water i have seen that a few times and the scammer blames the tourist, or rubber strips falling off or engine departments being flooded from the exhaust water coming in
This is a very well organised gang with high connections and they are very friendly with the marine department which is seperate to the marine police who sit well away from the jet ski vendors when they are on the beach.
After watching these scams over the past twelve months in my opinion there is not one honest jet ski vendor on the beach and the highest amounts of incidents are from soi 9 down to the last vendor on walking st.
Until this very large criminal gang are taken off the beach it will not be safe I have personally seen to many assaults and have no doubt how dangerous they are.
When the Pattaya city council have a web site pattaya future and they refuse to comment or act on scam reports when they have all the evidence they need and choose to ignore it this is a big problem.
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The Scam have not stopped in the last 12 months despite arrests it made no effect the police simply seem to be ignoring this issue hundreds of tourists see the scams occur daily , tourists have to be very careful taking photo's around these scammers.
More info on the scam here
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I heard the unlicensed beach operators pay a substantial, monthly "fine" to the authorities.
Just like the unlicensed entertainment places, vendors, porn sellers, scammers.
They all are being "fined" every month.
This guy Mr Floral Shorts never stops scamming he was gone for a few days I thought finally the police were starting to do their job but no he is back again just changed his location a 50 metres.
Not Sure if he is blacklisted but he has moved to a new location .
http://thailandlandofsmiles.com/2011/05/14/pattaya-jet-ski-scam-still-going-strong/
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Never seen free wifi but you can 3bb works in there if you purchase a card.
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July 2006
Debate on setting up rules and regulation for Jet Skis
On 26th July 2006, Mr. Sanit Boonmachai, President of Pattaya Tourist Boat Club, called upon committee and all members of the Club for a meeting to point out the problem by the activities of Tourist Boat and try to find solution to bring the service to a better standard.
Mr. Sanit mentioned that the current problem that the club is facing is the Jet Ski operators who lack the responsibility in operating their business. At the moment there are more than 100 Jet Ski, it is found that the Jet Ski operators started their business at approximate 12.00 hrs. and bring them onshore at 21.00 hrs. Which is not according to the rules and regulations of general boat operators. Many complaints were received from groups of Tourist & Officers subjecting to the safety and service charges.
The Management Committees, High Ranking Officers & Chief of Government Department of Pattaya had also reprimanded the Jet Ski Operators about their services and the parking of Jet Ski along the Bali Hai Pier. It had been noticed that parking is not in proper order and dirtiness as a whole, as well as, parking in Jet Ski in the car parking lots which cause a lot of problem to the public who come to use the service of the pier.
For this problem the Club will take more serious action and firm steps for law-breaker to maintain the good image of the Club and the Jet Ski Operators in general. -
More on Pattaya Jet Ski scam here
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Due to these scammers being experts in this field and tactics they use it is very hard to determine who are authorised persons turning up at the scams and who are fake , many times people resembling the marine department have been turning up and they are extremely friendly with these scammers.
Also there is the Sikh guy who is still working down pass royal garden , also a big russian guy and half thai going buy many reports online these people all give the victims the indication that they are working for the police and there to help the victim
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This meeting was sept 2010 not specifacally about the jet ski scam but some interesting information abou the Marine Dept including a link of one mans crusade for justice.
Pattaya Tourist Boat Operation & Management Meeting Held 14 sept 2010
Pattaya and Chon-Buri maritime transport authorities met on Tuesday to discuss the better organisation and management of vessels operating in the Pattaya Bay, for the benefit of involved tourists.
Editor’s note: Tourist boat operational problems will likely never change in Pattaya until the entire system is overhauled; here are just a few points to consider when looking at the issue:
- Mr. Sanit Boonmachai (President of the Tourist Boat Association (TBA)) has a stranglehold on this industry and his position at the helm of its operations. Unlike the police or other positions of authority in Thailand, who are generally rotated yearly to avoid complacency and widespread corruption, the president of the TBA is elected into power as with government officials. In that respect certain key figures have a significant say in the election proceedings, often directly related to the prevalent accusations of vote-buying.
http://www.pattayadailynews.com/en/2010/09/16/pattaya-bay-tourist-boat-organisation-meeting-held/
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"outline parking and business zones and figure out how to force vendors to register"
Scams and Extortion has continued while the authorities are trying to outline Parking Zones .
These are weak excuses while every day people are being confronted by these gangs on the beach who daily use photo's that are being manipulated to use as evidence by witness reports.
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Jet Ski Operators Put on a Short Leash
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12 Aug 2011 Jet Ski Operators Put on a Short Leash
Mayor Ittipon explained The jet ski and related business operators have cooperated with the request to register their vehicles, and insurance companies, which are reviewing their databases, will set a standard for compensations to help both the operators and tourists when an accident occurs. Further progress will be reported at the next meeting.
http://www.pattayapeople.com/default.asp?Folder=16&IdArticle=27659
28 Sept 2011
City Hall meeting, Deputy Mayor Ronakit Ekasingh said that while 168 beach vendors did register their 520 jet skis, many have not. Failure to register, however, hasn’t led to any repercussions for scofflaws, who Ronakit vowed in late August would be “classified as criminals” if they didn’t comply.
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A month later, jet ski registration falls short
At a Sept. 28 Pattaya City Hall meeting,
Nearly a month after demanding that jet ski vendors
register at city hall or face criminal action, city officials are still mulling how best to end the seemingly unending string of embarrassing scams against tourists.Deputy Mayor Ronakit Ekasingh said that while 168 beach vendors did register their 520 jet skis, many have not.
Failure to register, however, hasn’t led to any repercussions for scofflaws, who Ronakit vowed in late August would be “classified as criminals” if they didn’t comply. Instead, the deputy mayor again summoned
Marine Office bureaucrats to discuss new regulations to cover all water-related sports businesses on area beaches.Before any new regulation can be drafted, the city still must find a way to determine exactly how many jet skis and boats are working beaches on the mainland and near islands, outline parking and business zones and figure out how to force vendors to register. http://www.pattayamail.com/localnews/a-month-later-jet-ski-registration-falls-short-6710
Pattaya’s Jet Ski Problems Not Solved Yet
Two types of insurance; a long term insurance and an hourly insurance. The insurance would cover the jet ski, property and life. Implementation of a jet ski tax insurance; a coupon which the operator could buy at Pattaya municipality. The coupon would be divided into three parts; jet ski rental, insurance and tax.
In addition, August 9-10 2011, (PDN) The jet ski operators in Pattaya should have their jet skis and their drivers registered with the Pattaya municipality as soon as possible.The registration would allow the officers to know the jet ski owner/operator in case of a problem or an accident.
If the operators will not register they will be not be allowed to rent their jet skis to tourists.
http://www.pattayadailynews.com/en/2011/08/05/pattayas-jet-ski-problems-not-solved-yet/
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I looked at some stereo sets with CD/DVD player and radio tuner together, again I was surprised how cheap they were, at 3000b I had my doubts. But it gives the speaker price of only 500b the correct correlation to the set price. OIN the other hand, I don't need a set, got all ready enough electronics in the house which are never used.
I am not looking for super sound, just pleasant, never play too loudly, no over-emphasising the fashionable bumbumbumdrums and clear high tones.
I will look for Creative but want brand is ok for sets? Or are the all now more or less indistinguishable except for price?
If you are looking for a simple, high quality solution for your internet music, I would suggest standalone Wi-Fi internet radios such as these. You can listen to your music anywhere in the home, on the patio, in the kitchen, or wherever there are WiFi signals -- instead of hunching over the computer terminal. Very versatile, very stylish and reasonably priced too.
Good info may look at something like that myself.
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Trip Advisor July 2009 and Not much has changed it is now Nov 2011
Warning!!!!Jet Ski Pattaya ”
16 July 2009, 20:47
Hey Guys
Just a bit of advice in regards to renting Jet Skies in Pattaya. Im just back from my first time in Thailand, and over all i loved it! However while we spent some days in Pattaya we had a really bad experience.
Myself and my two friends ( all Male in our early 20's) were approuched by a man while walking down the beach asking if we wanted to rent jet Skies, he was friendly enough and we arranged a price of 400THB each for 30mins. We were asked to sign a piece of paper which asked for our Hotel name and room number (we didnt give these details of course, and sign fake names) they were very friendly and polite.
When we arrived back after 30mins there wasnt just the two men and women there but about 10 of the roughest looking men you have ever seen, screaming at us, saying we broke two of the jet skies. They had Tattoos all over there necks arms and faces, one of them actually had a stab wound on his face that kept bleeding. They demanded 77000THB and said they would call the police, i said i was more than happy for the police to come and sort it out. When i said this they went crazy and tried to fight us, taking out knives etc!!!! Then a non Thai came over and "tried to help" cause he could speak Thai, he was completley in on the whole thing!! We tried to leave and were blocked off, so it was either pay or fight completley out numbered. We insisted we did not have the kind of money over and over and the price after one hour went from 77000 to 20000THB, which we regretfully paid!
When we walked away a police man was right beside the beach, i ran over to him, and before i opened my mouth he put up his hand and said not my problem!!!!!!
On our travels we heard so many stories of people saying the same thing over and over. This incident really put a downer on things for a few days, and one of my friends was so shuck up about it we did not leave the hotel complex for a week! This happened right in front of the main shopping centre along the beach.
And i know some of you's will say ah well you should not have arranged it with some guy on the street but anyone who has been to pattaya will know that everything is like this there, you could walk 100metres and be approuched about 10times from people trying to sell you snything from suits to Women, to jet Skies to Watches, its just the way things are over there.
Sorry for the big Novel but at the end of the day if this posting even prevents one person from going through the same situation we did i will be happy!
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He's toast. Don't waste your time even thinking about that man. It was all about making money for him anyway, now he can be a Fox News right wing talking head and sell millions of books, the male Sarah Palin.
NEXT! ...
It's quite a joke how faux news are trying to defend him and not make it sound like a big issue , I think its great that they are getting a bit of their own back after the hard time they have given obama.
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If They are anything like these kids don't waste your time trying to change them.
The members of the KB (Kabotmuangtong) Club are, according to a group of teachers, school truants who flout the law and teach other children how to misbehave and become potential career crimininals.
When kids are in school we can control them,'' said one Thalang teacher. ''But these youngsters are out of hand and running wild on Phuket. We can't control them.''
For this problem the Club will take more serious action and firm steps for law-breaker to maintain the good image of the Club and the Jet Ski Operators in general.
Marine Office bureaucrats to discuss new regulations to cover all water-related sports businesses on area beaches.
Jet Ski Scam Pattaya When Will It Stop
in Pattaya
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I don't think he has got the message