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1 hour ago, tmd5855 said:You say revisionist as if what I wrote is not true.
Putin wanted to join NATO showing that after the dissolution of the Warsaw Pact that NATO should evolve into a type of EU where armed forces could reduce lowering tension
Worked with Ukrainians and Russians when working offshore, not much between them, the problem is money and power.
The ordinary guys like those guys I worked with never really get the spoils, but, are expected to shed their blood so the instigators get their spoils.
2nd Iraq war and the fall of Saddam, who benefitted, not the average Iraqi or the region, who benefitted.
Libya and the deposing of Gaddafi did his removal usher in stability for the region and prosperity, who benefitted.
Departure from Afghanistan following the loss of thousands of sons and fathers, when Russia left the regime they left lasted 8 years........ The Biden installed regime were it 8 hours or minutes. Who benefitted.
Any country that joins NATO has to standardise their armed forces with NATO compatible equipment. Who benefits??
Interesting, but a completely different discussion.
Russia uses the narrative that it felt threatened by even the possibility of Ukraine becoming a NATO member. It also uses the narrative that it invaded Ukraine (going to Kiev, remember) to rid Ukraine of the fascists.
All bogus of course.
Putin's real aim was and is, to revive the old Russian empire, Russia's greatness. And secure himself a place in the history books as the greatest Russian tsar ever.
He's not very successful so far. But if he succeeds in Ukraine, next will be Moldova / Transnistria.
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7 hours ago, thaipo7 said:Correct in capital letters. Biden needs something to be remembered. He does not care what it is.
This has always been a mystery to me, maybe you can clear it up.
It's ok if Russia launches missiles from hundreds of kilometres inside Russia, has air force bases there so Russian warplanes can attack every city in Ukraine it likes from the air, but Ukraine is not allowed to use the weapons it has to attack those places in Russia where the attacks come from?
Please explain.
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45 minutes ago, tmd5855 said:Cannot understand why many folk believe that Putin woke up one Feb morning 2022 and said, "Serge, Ivanov, lets invade Ukraine??
I love the timeline 2014, US covert action in the 'Orange Revolution' depose the democratically elected president of Ukraine, this Ukranian President wanted to stay neutral, outside NATO, so had to go. Guess who were US, VP then??? Guess whose son got involved afterwards with the Ukraine gas/energy business (A book in itself).
Crimea which Russia took from the Ottoman Empire were transferred from Moscow rule to Kiev in 1954 by the then half Ukraine president Khruschev, Russia took it back in 2014 (50 years later) when the now ruling regime in Kiev asked to join NATO
Russia had been told that Nato would not advance east of the Oder & Neisse rivers on German reunification, where is the NATO border now?? Where is the Warsaw pact that it were going to fight.
Ukraine had a paramilitary unit called the 'Azov' brigade that the US State department proscribed as a 'terrorist' organisation and were banned from using any US supplied weapons after their behaviour against civilians in the areas of the Ukraine with large numbers of Russian and Russian speaking populace.
These restrictions were lifted in 2024 this unit is now part of the Ukrainian armed forces.
Google their banner and flag 'A308'
The celebration of the Ukrainian raised Waffen SS Division (Galicia) with statues and memorial days after the 2014 coup had Putin talking about Nazis in the Kiev government, since this Waffen SS division were now 'freedom fighters' fighting the Red (Russian) army.
Zelensky and Putin had a pre 2022 agreement including neutrality and autonomy in a document called the Minsk Accords. Russia, Germany, France and the UK had signed it. Biden (Now president) told the scandal ridden UK Prime Minister to go to Kiev and tell Zelensky not to sign, EU and NATO would support him.
Months later Johson resigned after half his government resigned over his lies, deceptions to the House of Commons
Shortly after Boris had visited, Zelensky withdrew from the agreement Russia having stated this were a red line attacked, a war many folk could see coming for the past 8 years now happened.
Joe Biden crossed a number of Putins red lines and got away with them, Minsk accord failure were one red line too far.
Trump for all his (Many, many) faults would have frog marched Zelensky to the table and sign saving thousands of lives and no invasion
Joe Biden now allowing US/Nato supplied weapons to destroy targets in Russia is a cliffhanger of a redline.
To program these US missiles and the UK/French cruise missiles need satellite provided co-ordinates, Ukraine does not have this capability, but, NATO has...........
Will be interesting to see the origin/make of the first missile to land in Russia, privately France and the UK are heading out of the room not hearing a word, Germany has already said in a roundabout way reprogramming their donated 'air' launched missiles will not "Change anything"
No doubt Trump does not want WWIII on his doorstep on taking office, the phones must be red hot..
The usual revisionist drivel. Putin wanted to join NATO in 2000/2001, remember?
Finland has now joined NATO, will the invincible Putin invade Finland next?
Have you ever heard of Kaliningrad?
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10 minutes ago, dinsdale said:
I did say greater than. It's more like 111,000km2. Go look at some war maps. This is now a war of often metres taken and metres lost now. The greatest gains from Russian came from their initial push 2022. The 110,000 doesn't include Crimea. The Black sea naval fleet wasn't decimated, sure their were some very high value assets sunk, but the reality is they moved the fleet. They had to because of the sea drones. Very effective weapons. North Korean soldiers needed? Don't think so. There's only an estimated 10k of them. As for troop losses as I have said it's a protracted war of attrition and the numbers are on Putin's side. This is just a fact. As for the Kursk Oblast Ukraine occupies around 500km2 but there too there is ebb and flow of territory held by one side or the other.
Ok, a war of attrition. A very long war of attrition. I get that, I got it already.
The whole Donbas region is about 53.000 km2. So your arithmetic seems to be way off. Don't include Crimes, don't include the Donbas as illegally occupied since 2014. Only the gains since February 2022.
Not that it matters.
My question again: for what?
If you don't know the answer, please let us know.
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27 minutes ago, dinsdale said:Ridiculous comment. So anyone who comments on the situation and says that Russia is winning is a Putin supporter. It's nothing to do with supporting one side or the other. It's the fact's happening on the ground. Since 2022 Russia has taken>100,000km2. This is simply a fact. Go look at some war maps. Saying that the ATACMS will have little affect on how the war's progressing has nothing to do with being a Putin supporter. It's a fact.
A gain of a 100.000 km2 in over two and a half years. I'm not sure that's correct. In the Donbas region the gain is having pushed the line about 30 kms to the West. That's not really impressive, is it. And please take into account the region of Kursk, lost to the Ukrainians.
And consider the 100.000 to 200.000 Russian soldiers lost, the thousands of tanks and artillery pieces, the Black Sea naval fleet decimated, etc etc. North Korean soldiers needed. And for what. In over two and a half years.
Not exactly impressive. More a sign of the rampant corruption and incompetence in the Russian army.
That doesn't mean they can't win of course. And, win what? What was the goal?
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Donald Trump Jr. 😳
Not the dumbest of Trump's sons, but close.
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1 minute ago, illisdean said:
what conspiracy....making fools of liberals and woke left wing loons?
J6 conspiracy...?? LOL....gone, just go ask illegitimate SC Jack Smith how the J6 case (trumps violation of the KKK act) is going? No insurrection charges? No evidence seems to be the problem, bigger problem is there is no case. And guess what: be sure to tune in and watch MAGA / Trump get inaugurated Jan 20 next year.
Co-conspirators is in the indictment. You might want to look it up.
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13 minutes ago, illisdean said:
this same DOJ tried to imprison Trump for hundreds of years with bogus hoax lawfare and they failed. They indicted Trump every time he farted and would have bent over backwards to put the screws to Matt Gaetz given the opportunity, (they tried & failed) because he brings the truth which all democrats fear. Democrats have spent the past four years failing with their woke and DESTRUCTIVE policies, inept "leader-sheep", and also wasted four years attacking Trump and failed every step of the way...... ONLY TO GET HIM ELECTED.
Hows that for delusional. LOL.
Watch & weep, the adults are back in the room. try not be delusional.
Well, it's encouraging to see you've managed to squeeze the word 'lawfare' into your stream of consciousness rant.
Copy-paste?
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1 minute ago, illisdean said:Pure hearsay testimony and totally inadmissible. DOJ investigated Gaetz for years on this matter and eventually dropped the investigation for various reasons one being dodgy , unreliable witness testimony and they had no case. Biden's DOJ would have jumped at the chance to indict Gaetz in a NY minute if they could. He's ultra adept at rooting out lies, corruption, deceit, etc at the FBI and DOJ. Watch him embarrass and expose FBI director Wray. Gaetz is hardcore tactical and smart as the day is long.
Hahaha! Biden's DOJ would have jumped at this opportunity? How delusional can you be. The Garland DOJ has showed itself as cowardly, out of political fear. That's why one and a half year were wasted, and none of Trump's co-conspirators were indicted. And never will.
A complete demasque of the American legal system, and the Gaetz case is no exception. And that's why the house Republicans will do everything they can to suppress the Ethics committee report. Because there's nothing to see here, right?
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13 minutes ago, NanLaew said:
From the internet and her own mouth, Monica Lewinski was of-age and what happened in the Oval Office was totally consensual (it's in her book).
The bullying and abuse of power came from online trolls AFTER she admitted to it.
Anyway, there's nothing in the law of the land that says Trump can't get laid in the Oval Office, but like almost 30 years ago with Clinton, it's just not proper etiquette.
Moot point anyway as it's just unlikely that he may find anyone willing to participate (for free).
Apart from Mark Meadows, maybe?
Laura Loomer, maybe? They seem to have a spiritual connection.
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1 hour ago, blazes said:
It's worth reading this CNN contribution to truth and harmony very carefully. Read it slowly and you will see that the word "pardon" is mentioned a million times, but it never is clearly defined as a pardon for a specific crime or misdemeanour.
Many GOP reps who anticipated that the Dems would (as they indeed did) be using lawfare to wreak vengeance on Trump supporters went to the office of Mark Meadows seeking blanket pardons for anything that might come down the line.
Note in particular this sentence:
McEntee testified to the committee that Gaetz said he asked Meadows explicitly for a pardon, though it was not clear at the time what the pardon request was for.
This long tissue of fake allegations and obfuscations ends with this sentence:
None of the lawmakers ever received pardons from Trump.
Fake news at its best.
Thanks for reminding me that there could well be another crime Gaetz was worried about and thought he needed a pardon for.
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49 minutes ago, scottiejohn said:
I am asking you to follow AN forum rules. (no I am not a Mod!).
If you do not know what is meant by "credible" sources I suggest you read a dictionary then read the AN Forum rules.
Hopefully this will help you. The witness testified under oath.
Rep. Gaetz sought Trump pardon, former White House aide testifies to Jan 6 committee
https://edition.cnn.com/2022/09/17/politics/matt-gaetz-trump-pardon-justice-department/index.html
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21 minutes ago, NanLaew said:
Yes, there was a horse-trade back then. Greenberg turned state's evidence to avoid a life sentence. He got 11 years.
Hopefully, it will all come out in the wash.
Yes, we can always hope. And letting Gaetz off the hook was not part of the deal with Greenberg. I hope.
The legacy of this Biden administration with regard to upholding the rule of law is atrocious.
And, if Gaetz wants a confirmation by the Senate to become AG, there should be an FBI background check. And the report from the Ethics Committee available.
I doubt any of that will happen.
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6 hours ago, klauskunkel said:
I'm just astonished that there are people who would believe that Matt Gaetz can actually get it up...
For your information:
'As part of his plea deal, Greenberg provided information to investigators about Gaetz related to the sex-trafficking probe, a source familiar with the case previously told CNN. Women who attended parties with Greenberg and Gaetz previously told CNN that they participated in sex parties near Orlando that featured local political figures, young women, Venmo payments, alcohol, and drugs.'
https://www.cnn.com/2022/12/01/politics/joel-greenberg-sentencing/index.html
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1 hour ago, OneMoreFarang said:I don't know the details. Maybe it makes send to publish official reports about politicians.
But then, I guess if any crime is described in those reports, that he would have been already investigated - just a guess.
Gaetz was investigated by DOJ, originating from the case in Florida, where his mate Joel Greenberg was sentenced and is now in jail.
DOJ didn't bring charges, and possibly dropped the case. Why?
My guess: because Gaetz is a politician, and the Garland DOJ doesn't have the guts .
But my guess is as good as yours.
The House Ethics Committee investigation was started because Gaetz walks around in Congress showing pictures and videos of his 'conquests', and because almost everyone there hates the guy with a vengeance.
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Let me guess: more war crimes, harassment of Palestinian farmers on the West Bank, more ethnic cleansing?
Waiting for the second coming, and/or the rapture, as some of you will understand.
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8 hours ago, Snackbar said:Nazis take care of their own
Fascists. Not Nazis.
As is shown by one of the first appointments of Trump, Tom Homan. This is the way this next administration is going, and it's very sad to see a big country and powerful country going down the drain so fast.
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26 minutes ago, RichardColeman said:Be nothing to the amount that Letictia James will have to pay out when Trump gets her for election interference
So you believe that a businessman who commits fraud, should be off the hook once he becomes a politician?
Interesting thought, and totally fitting in the Trump era.
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19 minutes ago, harryviking said:I am sure Trump will pardon this old guy. I find it a bit disgusting to send an old man onto the streets with nothing. This is evil revenge from the leftists and really show their true face!!
You're talking nonsense, and you must be very gullible.
Giuliani has several apartments worth millions, he has several expensive possessions that he is supposed to hand over, but that he has spirited away. As he has done before. The guy is a crook, and should face the full extent of the law.
Btw, this has nothing to do with leftists, it's a civil lawsuit brought by Freeman and Moss, the election workers, themselves. It should have been brought by the DOJ or the Georgia AG in my opinion, but apparently they didn't have the guts to stand up for election workers.
And this crook has been given far more leeway than an ordinary citizen would have gotten.
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3 hours ago, JonnyF said:A ridiculous amount. Politically motivated. Thank goodness the Dems and their constant lawfare have been roundly rejected by the electorate.
Are you aware that this was the result of a civil lawsuit, brought by Freeman and Moss themselves? And where a jury decides the amount of money related to the damages?
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Not taking responsibility, huh? As is to be expected from that bunch.
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The idiocy of the Trump campaign for the presidency.
Getting a conspiracy theorist nutcase like RFKjr on board, who constantly babbles about health, while at the same time laying out plans to eliminate regulations, diminish HHS, the EPA, the FDA etc.
And the crowds, Trump supporters, are cheering wildly. Because, something.
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10 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:
Where are the Palestinians in this Brave New World? Are they invisible? Will they all be dead or expelled to the desert? Is Blinken a moron?
As with the famed Abraham accords, Americans think it's better to leave Palestinians out of the discussion.
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15 minutes ago, JonnyF said:
It would be, if this were an assassination attempt.
Which it wasn't.
You should know that any right wing nutter, driving around with illegal guns and ammunition in his car, could turn into a killer at any time. Whatever the guy says after his arrest.
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Donald Trump Jr. Alleges Biden’s Actions Could Trigger World War III Before Trump’s Return
in World News
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I suggest you stay off the Lao Khao. And Biden is not my Biden. That's come up in your addled brain I guess.
I also suggest you look up some history about Putin.