Presto

5 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

Yes I read it, that's why I posted it. The CNN article does not reveal all the demands, here some more, do you agree with this? Do you think Netanyahu will agree with it and the rest of them. Do you think Blinken is right when he says some are just unworkable?

 

Arab translation of course this should be hostages: 

5. Number of Detainees: The number of detainees to be released by Hamas has been adjusted from 33 to 32. This includes individuals who are alive, body parts, and remains, encompassing civilian women and female soldiers.

 

 

I can't make a lot of sense of your response.

Are some demands unworkable? Maybe in the eyes of Blinken. 

It's a negotiation. Blinken is just blabbing to put public pressure on Hamas while, as always, shielding Israel from criticism.

7 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

We know that Blinken is biased, and not a neutral party.

 

Correct, he's biased against terrorists are you not then?

 

Hamas official tells CNN why it hasn’t accepted ceasefire plan that was approved by the UN Security Council, Hamas official says ‘no one has any idea’ how many Israeli hostages are still alive.

The fate of the 120 remaining hostages in Gaza is crucial to any deal to end the protracted and bloody conflict between Israel and Hamas. But a senior Hamas official has told CNN that “no one has an idea” how many of them are alive, and that any deal to release them must include guarantees of a permanent ceasefire and the complete withdrawal of Israeli forces from Gaza.

In an interview with CNN, Hamas spokesperson and political bureau member Osama Hamdan offered an insight into the militant group’s position on the stalled ceasefire talks, a view on whether Hamas regrets its decision to attack Israel given the mounting Palestinian death toll, and a commentary on the leak earlier this week of messages from its chief in Gaza, Yahya Sinwar, the man believed to be the ultimate decision-maker on any peace deal.

https://edition.cnn.com/2024/06/13/middleeast/hamas-interview-israel-gaza-hostages-intl/index.html

 

Have you read the CNN article completely? Do you disagree with the demands of Hamas? Do you think Netanyahu has or will agree (hus rabid extreme right coalition buddies certainly won't) to a permanent ceasefire and full withdrawal of the IDF from Gaza?

10 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

I am not Israeli and I've not seen any poll that details any evidenced war crimes, I take it you haven't either?

Afaik the only protests in Israel are against the government policies re. the hostages. And those protests are regularly suppressed.

There are no protests against Israel's war crimes, and I consider that as tacit agreement.

27 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

Its not about you though.

 

6 page topic on it, you think you are the first to discuss that.  The Poll was carried out by https://jlpartners.com/ not Henry....lol. Discuss in the topic, I will wait.

 

Its not as bad as 90% of Palestinians that believe that Hamas did not commit any atrocities against Israel civilians during its October the 7th offensive.

 

 

How many Israelis agree with the war crimes and atrocities committed against Palestinians?

9 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   Israel as an independent nation can decide and control its own immigration policy .

  What makes you think that non Israel's should decide Israel's immigration policy ?

   Would you be telling Brazil who should be allowed to enter Brazil?

You completely miss my point. 

How would you define 'their own country'? Of Jews I assume.

Jews from all over the world, with different nationalities and for different reasons, emigrate from their own country to Israel. Tens of thousands each year.

What is their own country? They definitely have a new country, and as far as I'm concerned within the 67 borders. You have to draw a line somewhere.

But that's of course not how it works. With increasing population, Israel needs land. Legal.ir illegal.

2 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   Do you think that Jews should be able to live in their own Country in Israel (regardless of actual borders) ?

How would you define 'their own country'?

Thousands and thousands of Jews have emigrated from their own country to Israel, because they could.

For instance one of the recently rescued hostages has a dual Russian and Israeli nationality, and had arrived in Israel (reportedly) a year and a half ago.

26 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

 The first link refers  to security measures taken after the Oct 7 th terror attack and the second link is about Non Israeli citizens .

   Palestinian Israelis live with equal rights in Israel before Palestains waged war on Israel on Oct 7 th 

 

Anyway , better to get back on toic

You do understand the meaning of the English words 'increased discrimination'?

4 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

  You need to provide a link to back up your claim 

More info for you, about supposed equal rights.

https://carnegieendowment.org/posts/2024/02/the-many-civil-and-human-rights-challenges-facing-israels-palestinian-citizens?lang=en&center=global

And about freedom of movement.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinian_freedom_of_movement

27 minutes ago, retarius said:

Preston a nice moral stand, that it boggles my mind that anyone would be picky enough to quibble with.

It's not a moral stand, it's a realistic stand. 

How do you think the parents, family, of Hind Rajab feel about Israel?

26 minutes ago, Eric Loh said:

What you probably learned in the past 3 years was that only Trump's loyalists defied subpoenas or told to defy by Trump. Deliquents shouldn't be rewarded and rightfully they are in jail or going to jail. They are afraid to tell the truth or afraid to incriminate Trump or in Steve Bannon case, it was an opportunity to grift from his audiences. 

To me it doesn't matter who defies a Congressional subpoena. What matters is, what is it worth, if most give you the middle finger or delay the process for years. As politics go in America, every two years the flags are changed in the House, so a bit of delay always works, if DoJ doesn't cooperate and hands it over to the courts, for whatever reason.

The Jan6 committee subpoenaed Bannon, Navarro, Meadows, Clark, Scavino. DoJ only prosecuted Bannon and Navarro. Why?

DoJ, or maybe more accurate, Special Counsel Smith chose to only investigate and indict Trump, because of speed. Well, we now know how that will end. 

Special Counsel or DoJ thought it best to let Bannon, Navarro, Eastman, Meadows, Clark, Flynn, etc, etc., off the hook.

All members of Congress are supposedly out of bounds for DoJ, with the exception of rep Perry, whose phone has been confiscated. And that's it.

We're almost four years after the failed coup, and there's nothing tangible to show that any of the plotters face consequences. Yes, two guys four months in jail (possibly?) for contempt of Congress.

A bit embarrassing I'd say.

33 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

There’s lots of things Gym Jordan fails to do.

 

After 18 years in Congress he’s failed to sponsor a single Bill that has been passed.

 

He’s not too sharp at attending when subpoenaed to do so either.

 

 

What I've learned in the past three years, is that Congressional subpoenas, and referrals to the DOJ, have no meaning. Better stop with wasting time is my advice.

5 minutes ago, frank83628 said:

you use Mr fbi, cia stooge MR anderson (matrix) cooper as your goto fact giver?

ok, 😄

You lack the capacity to view an interview and make up your own mind? Instead you resort to throwing childish badly spelled quasi insults around? How unfortunate. For you.

21 minutes ago, jerrymahoney said:

Though the crime of falsifying business records is nominally a misdemeanor, the Manhattan district attorney’s office almost always charges it as a felony. Still, the Trump case stands apart. The (NY)Times could identify only two other felony cases in Manhattan over the past decade in which defendants were indicted on charges of falsifying business records but no other crime.

Fine with me. Messing with a presidential election for your own advantage seems serious enough to me to dig up the appropriate laws, even if used rarely.

I'd rather see Trump behind for his role in the Jan6 insurrection and his theft of classified documents, but Garland efficiently ran those cases into the ditch.

10 minutes ago, jerrymahoney said:

A jury's deliberations is only a function of the evidence allowed in Court and the pretrial rulings as to how the charges can be presented, and then instructions to the jury as presented by the judge.

 

Or in a nutshell might be presented by the defense in an appeal:

 

Garbage in -- Garbage out.

Alvin Bragg and his colleagues did a very professional job in this case. I didn't expect a guilty on all 34 counts. But who am I.

Considering their handling of the case so far, and the professionalism of the judge, I don't give an appeal much chance.