josephbloggs

9 hours ago, alfieconn said:

 The lefties and MSM don't realize that when they demonize him  and just make up stories that it grows and makes his support stronger, so best they keep going  !

Ok, so I assume you are implying I have made up stories about him.  Anyone who can read or do their own research can clearly see that it is Yaxley-Lennon that is guilty of inventing stories.  "Lefties" don't need to invent anything as he digs his own holes so readily.  And the media simply report the news, so if that happens to contradict his imaginary version of events then so be it, but his supporters blame the "mainstream media" for reporting these facts.  And then they give money to him while he laughs his way to the bank.

However, you chose to highlight two sentences in my post, so I will address those as I assume you mean to suggest they are "made up stories"

"He was not kept in solitary confinement for two months, that is an utter lie."

This is very much a lie.  "Mr Yaxley-Lennon was treated with the same fairness we aim to show all prisoners - he had access to visits, television and showers - and it is totally false to say he was held in 'solitary confinement'”, said a Prison Service spokesman. "He was initially placed into the Care & Separation Unit for less than 48 hours while an assessment of the risk to his safety was undertaken by prison staff. He then joined the main prison population."

"Nothing changes the fact he is a racist, violent, lying, wife beating, fraudulent criminal."

Let's take these one by one.

Is he a racist?  I think this is not in question.

Is he violent?  His multiple arrests and prison sentences for violence and violent behaviour suggest he is.

Is he a liar?  Yes he is.  He has lied in court.  Not in dispute.  There are so many incidences of him lying that it is ridiculous to suggest otherwise.

Is he a wife beater?  Yes.  Well, a girlfriend beater if that makes it any better (it doesn't).  Well documented and he went to prison for the attack as he then assaulted a policeman who intervened.   A violent woman beater he is, documented and not in doubt.

I notice you didn't highlight "fraudulent criminal" so I guess you accept that and there's no need for me to elaborate.

Would you consider The Sun to be a liberal leftie newspaper?  Not many people would.  I despise The Sun for many reasons but even they recently denounced your hero for what he is.  https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/6912226/tommy-robinson-released-appeal-free-prison-latest/

The Sun Says:

TOMMY Robinson is a nasty thug and a grandstanding idiot.  He is not a freedom fighter. Nor is he the hero he is made out to be in the sewer which social media has become.  Nor is he a “reporter” fearlessly exposing an establishment cover-up of rapes by gangs of Asian men. That scandal has been exposed by actual journalists.  In fact Robinson, real name Stephen Yaxley-Lennon, almost wrecked the trial of some accused of serious crime, thus potentially denying both them and their alleged victims justice.

Yesterday he was freed on appeal over his contempt of court. Supporters say he was locked up too hastily and for too long. But he  was already serving a suspended sentence for the same offence. His many convictions stretch from violence to fraud. We have no sympathy.  The case he jeopardised in Leeds had reporting restrictions, temporarily preventing details being publicised. They’re neither unusual nor a politically-correct cover-up. They’re to avoid prejudicing and collapsing other trials linked to it.

Robinson blatantly flouted them, was in contempt — and admitted it.  Yes, our legal system IS too secretive. On this occasion it was crucial in the interests of justice.  It’s time his supporters grasped it.

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It is embarrassing to watch his followers trying to defend him and argue he is not just a racist thug who is playing on their prejudices to further his own enrichment - it is plainly obvious.  

Interesting article here about how much money he's earning from all this.  I can't believe people on this thread are bragging about sending him money - he's rubbing his hands with glee at having such gullible followers.  And I can guarantee you he has no respect for you at all.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/tommy-robinson-wealth-supporters-far-right-prison-freed-crime-a8473536.html

2 hours ago, markaoffy said:

 

this is how he was treated! The state of UK law! Overthrow the whole mad prison system that treats real criminals better than a guy who highlighted the turning heads away from Islamic law because it’s deemed racist brigade!


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So right wing racist Tommy gets "interviewed" by right wing Fox news and is allowed to repeat his lies unchallenged.  How is that POWERFUL (in caps)?

He was not kept in solitary confinement for two months, that is an utter lie.  I sincerely doubt his other claims but have no proof.  However, comparing it to Guantanamo Bay is just sickening, repulsive and utterly ridiculous.  The man is not a victim, although he likes to portray himself as one to encourage donations and further his own notoriety.

Nothing changes the fact he is a racist, violent, lying, wife beating, fraudulent criminal.  All proven facts.  Even if I held similarly racist views (I don't) I would be ashamed to be represented by him.  

1 hour ago, stevenl said:

Can you please explain the consequences of the recognition of the Sharia marriage?

That's unfair.  You know he only read the headline and not the article so it's not fair to ask him to explain.

40 minutes ago, alfieconn said:

The difference between my analogy and your's is that i can give an answer for your's !!! 

 

 

Not sure what answer you are referring to - you have simply kept parroting the same inane question.  As I mentioned in an earlier reply to you, who's to say it didn't or won't prejudice this trial? 

Now a question for you.  Let's say, in this instance, the verdicts stick and the trial isn't reheld, was is it still right for Yaxley Lennon to do what he did when it was illegal and put the whole legal process in jeopardy?

2 minutes ago, alfieconn said:

You still haven't  my question !!!!

 

I give up.

6 minutes ago, alfieconn said:

Instead of waffling, just answer the question 

  

Did you not understand my analogy?  I thought it was quite obvious.   Drink driving does not cause an accident every single time but it is illegal because it very well could do and in many cases does.

And who is to say it didn't prejudice the trial?

On 8/2/2018 at 11:04 PM, josephbloggs said:

My God that was cringeworthy to watch - what a fawning sycophant!

 

"Oh Tommy, where were Amnesty International?  Where were Reporters Without Borders?".   Seriously?  

"Oh Tommy, it's a form of torture!  They treat Guantanamo Bay prisoners better than you Tommy."

"He's like a POW who has been forced to build the Burma railway!"  Get a grip man!

"Rescued from torture".

"I know if Tommy were a Muslim prisoner in Guantanamo Bay, or a Brit or an American in North Korea or Iran, we would have a word for how Tommy was treated, and that word is torture".   

 

Pass the sick bucket, truly cringeworthy.

And, not surprisingly, it turns out that his claims that he was kept in solitary confinement are completely untrue.  Worse than Guantanamo Bay, what an insult to those people who who have been kept there without a trial, in isolation, and genuinely tortured.   Why do people continue to support this racist, violent, criminal liar?  

A Prison Service spokesman said: "Mr Yaxley-Lennon was treated with the same fairness we aim to show all prisoners - he had access to visits, television and showers - and it is totally false to say he was held in 'solitary confinement'.

"He was initially placed into the Care & Separation Unit for less than 48 hours while an assessment of the risk to his safety was undertaken by prison staff. He then joined the main prison population."

12 hours ago, alfieconn said:

He reported for 1h 15mins and people like yourself keep saying "it could have bought a mis-trial, blah blah blah" so why didn't his actions cause a mis -trial  or unsafe verdict ?  

So by your logic it was fine for me to drive whilst blind drunk yesterday because I didn't crash and got home safely even though my journey took me 1h 15 minutes.  Drink driving is illegal for a very good reason, but blah blah blah, why didn't it cause me to crash?  

So drink driving should be made legal then, right?  Or only for Tommy ?

Same logic you are using, think about it.

7 hours ago, 7by7 said:

His supporters on here and everywhere else claim that Yaxley-Lennon is a hero defending innocent children against evil rapists; a hero for exposing this horrible crime the authorities try to cover up.

 

This is simply not true.

 

That grooming Muslim child grooming gangs went unhindered for so long is a national scandal. As is the fact that child sexual abuse in children's homes by both Catholic and Anglican priests also went on unhindered by the authorities for decades; as has many other instances of child abuse and grooming; whether by gangs or individuals.

 

All of these cases were discovered through the efforts of investigative journalists from the mainstream media or whistleblowers in the organisations concerned.

 

Yaxley-Lennon has never discovered or exposed or in any way been connected with the arrest, let alone conviction, of anyone concerned with the sexual abuse of children.

 

On the contrary.

 

When his mate and EDL leader Richard Price was convicted of possessing child pornography, Yaxley-Lennon at first defended him. He only changed his tune and condemned Price after pressure from other EDL members.

 

When another of his mates, Leigh McMillan was convicted of grooming and raping a 10 year old girl over 100 times Yaxley-Lennon was silent.

 

When Paul Whiteside, another EDL member, was convicted of abducting a 15 year old girl and photographs of her in states of undress were found on his phone, not a word from Yaxley-Lennon.

 

Actions which seems very strange from a man who claims to be concerned with exposing child rapists!

 

Some may say that Yaxley-Lennon is no longer associated with the EDL; which is simply a pathetic attempt to excuse him. Child abuse of any kind, but especially child sexual abuse, is inexcusable and vile; no matter who commits it. Yaxley-Lennon is only concerned when the perpetrators are Muslim.

 

This, alone, shows his true agenda; that he uses the suffering of innocent children to promote that agenda is disgusting.

It's all well and good making sound, truthful, reasoned, non-hysterical posts with correct spelling and grammar but you have to admit that the UK is slowly but surely being swamped by a tide of these people with their outdated beliefs, and our culture and values are being eroded.  They are violent, they rape and abuse children, they interfere with judicial processes, they commit fraud, they beat their wives and occasionally even go under fake names (of dead football hooligans) .  What's more they stick to their own and refuse to assimilate.  Yes, it's time to stand up for what we believe in and denounce these white, non-Muslim, racist manipulators for what they really are.

39 minutes ago, evadgib said:

 

My God that was cringeworthy to watch - what a fawning sycophant!

"Oh Tommy, where were Amnesty International?  Where were Reporters Without Borders?".   Seriously?  

"Oh Tommy, it's a form of torture!  They treat Guantanamo Bay prisoners better than you Tommy."

"He's like a POW who has been forced to build the Burma railway!"  Get a grip man!

"Rescued from torture".

"I know if Tommy were a Muslim prisoner in Guantanamo Bay, or a Brit or an American in North Korea or Iran, we would have a word for how Tommy was treated, and that word is torture".   

Pass the sick bucket, truly cringeworthy.

1 minute ago, alfieconn said:

Was there a reason why you repeated yourself ?  So it would be perfectly fine for Muslims to do the same to someone in your family ?

My God, this is like arguing with a child.  Why on Earth do you think I would think it's fine for a Muslim to rape someone in my family?  How on earth do you make such a logical leap to infer that in my post?  It really is quite ridiculous and infantile.

It's perfectly obvious what my point was.

For the record I am pretty anti-rape in general and don't think anyone should be allowed to do it, Muslim or otherwise.  I'm pretty sure it's banned anyway and people go to prison for it.  

23 minutes ago, Thingamabob said:

Why are the details of the court case Robinson is following being kept from us by the authorities ?

Read the thread, it has been clearly explained a few times.  And no, it is not to "protect" Muslims, to avoid offending Muslims or any other such claptrap.