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8 hours ago, Ben Robert said:

After leave more than 40 years in Asia ,no in Europe, of course I am looking for tropical Weather in the Winter.I dont no what Thailand doing? So I have to do my next Winter in Vietnam...................

And seeing as Vietnam is closed and will be until the end of the year at least please tell us how you intend to do that exactly?

At least Thailand is exploring ways to let you in, Vietnam is not.

1 hour ago, Saint Nick said:

Oh...I know this one!

Because Thais are better people then those dirty foreigners!

Or: foreign doctors just don't know enough about Thai- biology!

Otherwise: you tell me!

Because foreigners AND Thai will go into 14 day quaranteen!

So why is one group allowed on a plane WITHOUT test, while the other has to cough up cash to get a useless certificate?

I was just waiting for someone to take the bait.  Didn't take long.

Thailand can not refuse to allow its own nationals to return, just as any another country cannot legally keep its own citizens out (you are even allowed to return with an expired passport).

No.  These are just replacement holidays, they are not recreating Songkran.

3 hours ago, soi3eddie said:

This is what some do with their dogs. This one owned by niece and boyfriend of my ex. At the end you'll see it can be soft but I wouldn't trust it. 

 

 

So taking it out on a bike, unleashed, where it can easily jump off to attack another dog / child.

Truly irresponsible and disgusting behaviour.

You call it soft, I call it disgraceful.

7 minutes ago, khunjeff said:

What he stated is correct. Thais do NOT need a Covid test before taking a repat flight, whereas foreigners do. Those are facts. 

Yes, that is correct.  I mis-read his post and I was wrong.  

32 minutes ago, The Barmbeker said:

Because  as far as I heard_ Thais don't need to be tested on the repatriation flights!

Fun fact!

So now you can just make things up and call it a fun fact can you? 

Thais need a fit to fly certificate to board a flight home, just the same as foreigners. Thais are also driven straight to do 14 days government quarantine as soon as they arrive, during which they will have two Covid tests, just the same as foreigners. They have to pay for it too - the same price as foreigners pay. 

Please don't post lies and call them facts. 

Edit:  I misread your post.  You are correct, Thais need a Fit To Fly certificate but they don't need a Covid test prior to flying.  

16 minutes ago, Leaver said:

Never said that, or suggested that. Quite the contrary.

 

"They can continue with their corrupt ways here all they like, meanwhile, their direct competition are building things like this."

Dunno, that sounds like you're saying Thailand is held back by corruption whereby Vietnam is not.  Whatever, if that's not what you meant, fine.

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Yes, but as I have said previously, even with their corruption, THEY GET THE JOB DONE, unlike here.  

 

The problem is, Thailand doesn't build it, and their competitor has already built it.  

 

Can you name anything Thailand has done recently (pre Covid) that is "good, clean, and amazing?"

 

How about 10 mass transit lines in Bangkok?  Almost finished.  How is the HCMC Metro going?  Around 7 years late so far and almost twice over budget.  Yes, Thailand's systems also get delayed but they get done even with the corruption.  Tons of other things get done here.

 

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Here's another thing that is really "World Class" Vietnam has done recently.  

 

https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/article.everything-you-need-to-know-about-the-new-vietnam-street-circuit.2BvFoOV82kcqi88y0mMsUU.html

 

Apparently, Thailand is more wealthy than Vietnam. as it probably should be.  So how is it Vietnam is doing it bigger and better than Thailand? 

Yes, they got the F1 and it remains to be seen how well it goes.  I hope it goes well!  Bangkok came close to having a street circuit 7-8 years ago but protests put paid to that.

Thailand does host the MotoGP and hosts it very successfully.  

I have nothing against Vietnam at all.  I like the country very much.  I also like Thailand.  Both have their good points.  But to suggest Vietnam is somehow streets ahead of Thailand because they built a cable car is ridiculous.

 

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What do you think is the future of tourism in South East Asia?   

No idea.  I think Thailand will bounce back quite strongly.  Just because Vietnam built a cable car it doesn't mean people will want to go there.  Vietnam is harder to get in to for tourists.  It has a far poorer tourist infrastructure. I think Vietnam will grow but it is not going to surpass Thailand any time soon.

Langkawi built a cable car and quite a cool bridge.  I've been there, it's impressive.  But apart from that there is nothing much else to do - it didn't exactly destroy Phuket.  Same here.  They've built a cheesy fake French theme park and are hoping people will come.  Time will tell.

17 minutes ago, Leaver said:

They can continue with their corrupt ways here all they like, meanwhile, their direct competition are building things like this.

 

 

Yep, no corruption in Vietnam.  Wow, how anti Thai are you to believe that Vietnam is not corrupt??  It is easily as corrupt as Thailand, what a ridiculous thing to say.

And if Thailand were to build such a thing everyone here would decry it as a white elephant and full of "brown envelopes".  But it is in Vietnam so it must be good, clean, and amazing.

38 minutes ago, possum1931 said:

it is not dumb pal, and it is very expensive.

Thanks for that great well reasoned come back.

On 1/29/2020 at 1:26 PM, roo860 said:

Found this story.

In a 1520 letter, Hernan Cortés wrote that the Aztecs raised and sold the little dogs as food.^[7] Colonial records refer to small, nearly hairless dogs at the beginning of the 19th century, one of which claims 16th-century Conquistadores found them plentiful in the region later known as Chihuahua.^[8] Small dogs such as Chihuahuas were also used as living heating pads during illness or injury. Some believe this practice is where the idea of pain being transferred to animals from humans originated, which gave way to rituals such as burning the deceased with live dogs, 

Expect a bunch of people to now gang up on you for daring to copy and paste some information.  Oh wait, that's only when Yinn does it.  Carry on! 

So many people can't handle a Thai lady with an opinion so they resort to petty attacks.  

3 hours ago, possum1931 said:

I think the unelected "PM" and his "government" will keep the 14 day quarantine as long as they can get away with it, again it is mostly down to money, about double the price for hotels and meals, plus the extras for testing etc. How many pockets are being filled in that lot for the connected?

For a conspiracy theory this is one of the dumbest I have ever heard.  For a start, the price includes transfers to your hotel, three meals a day, medical services (checks twice a day) and two Covid tests.  It's actually not that expensive when you break it down.

Now, to your theory - don't you think these mystery "connected people" who are making all this money from quarantine, don't you think they would make a Hell of a lot more if they just opened the country and had the hotels full of tourists and 80/90% occupancy?   

4 hours ago, hotchilli said:

If flyers have to have "fit to fly certificates" and are tested before boarding, why are so many found to be infected when they enter Thailand?

Because it has an incubation period.  Not rocket science.  That's why during quarantine everyone is tested twice - on the 5th day and on the 13th day.

6 hours ago, khunjeff said:

 

More than 95% of travelers arriving from overseas are Thais, who do not require Covid tests before flying - they only need a meaningless "fit to fly" certificate, which many doctors will give without an in-person examination. 

Fit to fly means they can return here and then go straight into quarantine.  During quarantine everyone - Thais and foreigners - have two Covid tests.  One on the 5th day, one on the 13th day.

So it is pretty comprehensive and much stricter than most countries.  Sorry.

11 minutes ago, Phulublub said:

Link to speeds please.  Or is this just more gratuitous Thai bashing?

 

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GTB.

HS1 reaches 300kmh at some points, but is more like 250kmh most of the time.  It goes noticeably faster in France.  The Thai one is slated to run at 250kmh.  So at best there is a 50kmh difference, but in reality hardly any difference.  Unless the Eurostar has suddenly increased to 410kmh (it hasn't) then it is a gratuitous Thai bash.

And let's not forget the only high speed rail in the UK is HS1 from London to Kent, so a very short single stretch.  The rest of the UK runs at a maximum of 225kmh (the Pendolinos on the West Coast Mainline) and most of it much slower.

 

2 hours ago, newatthis said:

https://www.pattayamail.com/thailandnews/dutch-water-experts-visit-thailand-21-25-november-2016-155801

 

Just GOOGLE. There are others.

Ok, and where does it say that Thailand told them they don't want their advice, they are foreigners, we don't need them?  Oh, it doesn't.  Because that didn't happen.

The article you posted said they came here as they were invited to by the Thai authorities and the delegation was organised by the Department of Water Resources and the BMA.  It also says the same foreign experts were brought in during the 2011 flooding.

So, it IS just a Thai bash because the truth is the exact opposite of that and the article you kindly posted proves that.

So much nonsense spouted on this forum.  So do you want to GOOGLE and try again?

1 minute ago, ExpatOilWorker said:

It works for ferries much bigger.

https://www.euronews.com/2019/08/20/world-s-largest-all-electric-ferry-sets-sail-in-denmark

Shhhhhhhh.........Cliveshep has found a fatal flaw that no-one has thought of!!

33 minutes ago, cliveshep said:

Hua Hin you say? Didn't know they had one in  what - the Serengeti?

Oh dear, right over your head.

 

6 hours ago, Leaver said:

Can you explain why Pattaya, which is not so far from Bangkok, and is marketed as a World Class Tourists Destination, has none of this?  

 

Actually, it doesn't even have proper metered taxis, as Bangkok does.  

Nope, no idea. Probably because it's not really that big of a place and doesn't really need it.  

There are other cities that need it more than Pattaya in my opinion.

1 hour ago, jacko45k said:

I was using the system only yesterday in Bangkok. Sadly, at the moment a lot of the city is not accessed by this networks and comparing it to the networks of places like London is fantasy. I know what I read, posted by you, and now, as you seem to be back-pedaling. Let us leave it at that.

You seem to have real problems with your comprehension and this is getting dull now.  Where am I back-pedalling?  I have said the same thing all along.  In three years from now we will have 10 lines operational covering 295kms.  By 2029 there is planned to be 540kms.

I haven't deviated from that throughout the thread so please move along now.

2 hours ago, jacko45k said:

 

I got the rubbish from YOU..... now that is laughable!

Ok, now you are being weird.  When I said Bangkok has a better mass transit network than many major cities and will soon eclipse most you made up a ridiculous claim that Bangkok's network will only cover 50 miles.  So I pointed out how that was false and that we already have 159kms of mass transit lines operational, 136kms currently under construction and in the advanced stages, and 540kms planned by 2029.  You then quoted all of that back to me and said it is laughable.

I think you have comprehension issues or otherwise are just a bit odd.  I only stated facts, not sure what your game is - enjoy!

1 hour ago, DrTuner said:

Actually an interesting topic.

 

https://www.railway-technology.com/projects/bangkok-metro/

 

So, Tom Yum Kung hit. And then it looks like after that the vast majority has been built over the ground. I suppose there's more profit to be made with all the concrete for SCG.

 

This is what they managed to dig under, 20km:

 

But since the 90's, they've dug more? Safe to say >90% is fugly skytrains, though.

 

EDIT: Yes, apparently they dug under the river, from Hua Lampong to Tha Phra. That was the tunnel I remembered. So, they do have capacity to do it, yet fugly skytrains are preferred.

 

Also, unlike the swamp dwellers up north, Sin City is not a flood field. The topography shows a channel through central bright side that always gets flooded because of the rains and Khao Talo. Divert that (should be done anyway) and start digging.

 

EDIT 2:

It was these two that dug the extension:

http://solutions.ait.ac.th/resources/pdf/9.MRT Blue Line Extension Project - Chih Huang.pdf

Yes, since the original blue line opened (all underground) it has had a major extension.  Several more stations underground, then it becomes elevated as it leaves the city.  Don't think it has anything to do with SCG - the underground tunnels and stations use tons of concrete, more than overground!

The main reason is cost with underground railways costing 3x more than elevated.  So it does make sense to make them mostly elevated, ugly as they are.

You also missed the orange line which opens in 2023.  29 stations, 23 of them underground and seven elevated.

2 hours ago, jacko45k said:

Hardly... it will be about 50 miles in total, London is 250 miles.

More rubbish - you are so far away from the truth it is laughable.  Where on earth do you get a total of 50 miles from?  Today there are already 159kms of lines in service (98 miles if you must) and another 136kms under construction, 70% complete, and due to open in 2023.  So that'll be a total of 295kms (183 miles) operational in the next 2-3 years across 10 different lines.  Quite a bit more than your 50 miles wouldn't you say?

And the overall master plan has 540kms (335 miles) operational by 2029.  Other lines are already out to tender or shortly to be so no reason to believe we won't have the full network.