chang1

On 9/4/2021 at 5:57 AM, BangkokReady said:

No.  Delta would still be here.  It would just be possibly a little better.

Many variants will be around that doesn't matter if the vaccines stop people dying. With vaccines we can live with Delta, without many will die. Here in the UK we have opened up and living with Delta. The difference to being in paranoid Thailand last week is huge - not just a little better. 

51 minutes ago, csmith said:

I thought there was no long term research on mixing & matching vaccines yet.

 

Is it all ‘guesstimates & fingers crossed'

 

Am I wrong …. ?

 

 

 

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Depends on your definition of long term. For anti vaxers it means a dozen generations. They will keep moving the goal posts everytime their worries are proved groundless. 

2 minutes ago, khunPer said:

Isn't it almost the same protesters that were protesting about something else last year, I recognized some of last year's leaders on the stage, but they seemed populistic to have changed the cause to an at present time more popular one...????

It will be the same people just with more to protest about now than when they were subdued  last year.

11 minutes ago, BangkokReady said:

As I said, it could have been better, but it would still be bad.

As soon as there was a hint of how bad things were in Wuhan the UK should have sealed all travel routes. I said this right at the beginning but we believed China and the WHO until it was too late.  

This could have been done better but after that the UK on the whole did a good, not perfect, job at great expense. 

Thailand started good then money took priority so didn't even try to get vaccines except for the well off. This is not a case of could have done better, they didn't even try to do better so there is no way they could do better. Only now are they trying but unfortunately it is too late. Delta will have gone through the population before people are vaccinated. 

3 minutes ago, digger70 said:

Ok protesting is Fine ,But not the way they do it now, Mobbing and Violence. 

They are at great risk for C19 with so many people out and about.

 

Young people without complications are at almost no risk from covid but can spread it. Not sure what you mean by mobbing as any such demonstration could be a mob. As for violence, that is never acceptable but you also have to look at the tactics used against them. I doubt those arrested get an easy time. Joe Ferrari exposed the type of thing that goes on as normal behaviour. 

6 minutes ago, Percy P said:

I'm English ,If rather be in Thailand then in my own country.

Because you have an easy escape route. What if you were stuck in Thailand without any financial backup? Even China could be OK but would I want to be an average Chinese - not for 1 minute. 

Just now, BangkokReady said:

What percentage of people do you think they would have got through by the time delta hit in April?

A lot higher if they put the resources into acquiring vaccines. 

They were lucky in the first wave and became complacent. They thought they could save/make money by waiting for home grown vaccines. Unfortunately vaccines are hard to make and the Indian variant has caught them out.

Do you think they pulled out all the stops to get vaccines?

9 minutes ago, BangkokReady said:

No.  Delta would still be here.  It would just be possibly a little better.

Covid is going to be around for a while. If 100% of the population are vaccinated then there are very few deaths, ie. much better. Covid cases don't matter - deaths and long covid do.

3 hours ago, crazykopite said:

If a million people take to the streets there is a very small chance he would get the message otherwise it’s a waste of time 

Yep, much better for everyone to stay at home and pretend all is well. In fact why not tell the media to only show good news and ban people from telling the truth on social media? Block foreign websites like Google and Facebook so no bad news reaches the people at all. Add in a few lies so that any problems can be blamed on the west. Are elections really needed? I think there could be other countries nearby to look at to get an idea of how this could work.

15 minutes ago, BangkokReady said:

clearly things would be a bit better if the government had begun seriously getting vaccines sourced some time last year.

This sentence explains why all the other things you talk about are happening. Also things would be a lot better not just a little. 

2 hours ago, kennw said:

I worry about the alternative, could it be "out of the frying pan into the fire"

 

There will be an election sooner or later. The problem is will there be any meaningful opponents? The longer they stay the more time they have to suppress other parties and change the rules to suit themselves. What worries me is that someone who uses force to gain power, is much more likely to use it to stay in power.

1 hour ago, Nanaplaza666 said:

Maybe i am one of the few , but i think it looks nice(if it will look like that in any way when finished) . People go to the beach to sit in the sun and the vendors with their umbrellas have busines renting them out . People that think it's to hot will go to the shopping malls or other shops allong beachroad so also generating business . But that's just my opinion . 

And I'll go to Spain. 

23 hours ago, RJRS1301 said:

On 8/24/2021 at 7:56 PM, chang1 said:

Is that correct? In the UK I was taught not to proceed until the pedestrian was off the road. The reasoning is that they may decide to turn around at anytime. Of course the Thai rules may differ. 

This ain't the UK. 

I guess you didn't bother to read the last sentence. 

Like most countries, Thai Road laws are very similar to the UK highway code although certainly not the same. 

4 minutes ago, matta said:

What is the purpose or use of a zebra crossing in Thailand knowing that people will not stop anyway.
Can one not continue the line and also omit traffic lights or warning signs?

Some will stop but you never which type is heading your way.

5 minutes ago, BTB1977 said:

What thais really feel about us. That's one thai that needs a beat down. 

I doubt nationality makes much difference here.

50 minutes ago, RobU said:

Wrong: if a pedestrian is on a crossing the pedestrian has Right of Way which means that traffic can cross behind him but not in front of him

Is that correct? In the UK I was taught not to proceed until the pedestrian was off the road. The reasoning is that they may decide to turn around at anytime. Of course the Thai rules may differ. 

6 hours ago, Mr Meeseeks said:

100% correct.

 

It comes down to a lack of education.

 

They are simply not aware of things like stopping for pedestrians on zebra crossings, right of way (intersections, roundabouts etc.) and other basic principles of operating a motor vehicle safely and courteously. 

 

Then the incorrect and dangerous behaviour is tolerated because there is no enforcement of the rules.

I don't believe it's a lack of education, training or courtesy. Everyone who saw this news will know exactly why the Aussie was upset and that the car driver was driving illegally and it won't be the first time they have been "taught" this.

Thais are super courtias (spell checker failed me) outside cars.

Your last point is spot on. Roads become their chance to be kings so anyone more vulnerable is fair game. If anybody tries to show more power than they have they have to be put in their place. Hands, feet, knives and even guns will be used to save face even if it is only in his mind.

So don't make excuses for them, they are dangerous @@holes plain and simple. 

53 minutes ago, jak2002003 said:

Domestic tourists are not allowed to travel to and from Phuket.

 

 

Is that because of foreign tourists? I thought that is a national policy that applies to all tourists. When we arrived in Phuket, Thais could go there much more easily than us. I think they only needed 1 vaccination. 

You can not compare pre sandbox to how it is now due to all the new restrictions brought in to kerb the Delta variant. 

The main reason the sandbox is failing is the excessive paperwork and testing. Then there is the problem of onward travel which is going to stop all the genuine tourists seeing rural Isaan. We managed to get there and have been given another 2 week home quarantine. Lazada is my friend so I can still get some jobs done. 

1 hour ago, Xonax said:

And Thailand totally killed domestic tourism, just to get 150.000 foreign arrivals in 2021. Domestic tourists would have spent many times the amount, that these foreign "tourists" will ever spend!

How was domestic tourism affected by the sandbox? I don't see foreign tourists have any advantages over locals, although after jumping through all the hoops and checks we should. 

If a vehicle can't do a U turn without staying in the U turn lane, it shouldn't be allowed to do it. A couple of days ago I was in a mini bus inwhich the driver had to brake hard due to an HGV doing a U turn from the other carriage way blocking all 3 lanes on our side. Even though fast moving vehicles were approaching he didn't wait for a gap. Luckily our driver and those around us were paying attention. 

No point blaming either driver for the deaths, blame the law that allowed it to happen. Drivers will never concentrate all the time. We all glance away from the road regularly even if it is just to check the speedo and we go over the limit at times. That is why road design and rules have to allow for that.

Both drivers could have been driving within the law and this could still happen. If the lorry was banned from making the U turn (as it should be), either it would not have happened or it would be clear the lorry driver was at fault and could be prosecuted. 

As we move to self driving vehicles, the old way of forcing drivers to avoid other vehicles doing legal unexpected manoeuvres like this has to change to every vehicles actions being easily predictable. 

Blaming a driver for something that many drivers do every day will not stop this reoccurring, changing the law and enforcing it, could make a big difference.