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35 minutes ago, Tarteso said:

It is curious how this time, the international press has had a great impact on the tragedy, perhaps the fact that the victim was a person of high rank and social level had an influence.  I did not see the same repercussion with previous crimes in LOS.

I think there was a bit of a stir on Ko Tao a few years ago and earlier Taksin went to Samui after a similar case there which was also quickly solved soon after - the perpetrators even had the girls shirt on their boat - conveniently. 

Someone was saying drugs should be decriminalised, on the "Robin Hood" drug dealer thread, which I can sympathise with if users only ruined their own lives. This is an extreme case of how drugs affect those around the user. 

Assuming money and not rape was the motive here would cheap freely available drugs have saved her life? I doubt it but it is certainly a debate that needs investigating. 

To me drug taking is not a problem as it is their choice and only affects the them. If he/she overdoses it's their fault. 

The problem is how it affects others - partners, children, parents, colleagues and those harmed by the violence and crimes committed and things like drug driving. 

If laws around drug use are relaxed it may reduce the crimes committed to help obtain the drugs but all the other problems will still be their. 

Did this <deleted> kill her to fund his habit or because he was already under the influence? 

There are still crimes committed connected to tobacco and alcohol but you don't hear much about robberies and murders committed by people having a joint or two. 

I can't say I  have a solution but do think crimes committed to feed a drug habit should be treated differently. Stealing a PlayStation to help feed your family is way different to stealing it to feed your habit. One is desperation and the other is desperation but the second is desperation caused by choice. 

Even the risk of a death sentence does little to deter some people so another strategy needs to be found - not because we should care about low life's like this <deleted> but because we care about our wife's, mothers, sisters and daughters!

12 hours ago, Crisu said:

https://thethaiger.com/hot-news/crime/update-suspect-in-swiss-murder-in-phuket-is-a-thai-man

 

" the suspect is in fact a 27 year old Thai man"

Easy mistake to make, I  often wonder if I  am talking with a fellow Brit or a French man.

13 minutes ago, Harsh Jones said:

 Life is full of risks. And some ppl tragically find themselves at the wrong place at the wrong time.

 

Should these stories should teach ppl to use a little more rigorous  judgement ? I guess so. But millions of tourists do the same thing each year without being killed. Its just the odds. The hidden game of chance in life.

Far more tourists were harmed on Thai roads than by being attacked. The difference is they don't have the same shock factor despite being far more likely to happen. I had 18 months off work due to a bus driver falling asleep but never been attacked by anyone here.

4 minutes ago, Dexxter said:

I wonder if the murderer had his phone with him and the app installed. Does the app record accurate GPS tracks online in a database or does it just record check-ins to various establishments? If it does record GPS data then just match location and time with the tracks found on the victim's phone.

I have a sneaky suspicion that the BiB may have thought of that already. 

1 minute ago, Mickeymaus said:

I lived on Samui and I loved it. The end came with the Asian (Thai) crises and the following cheap Baht. Suddenly every idiot could travel there. First I tried to escape to Phuket / Patong. But it didn't take long until this paradise was destroyed too. 

To me it was the 2 week holiday makers who came in droves after the tsunami. Coconut island became a building site full of families and louts, taxis and McDonald's all of which ruined the atmosphere and greed took over everywhere - except the small shops with there double prices which Tesco put an end to. Before that it was all long stayers like me and backpackers - great company and everyone out for a good time. Of course there was the odd upmarket hotel full of the types I despise but the bars of Lamai were mostly off limits to those snobs. I stopped going there altogether about 12 years ago but hope to get back again soon before the island is overrun with boring people again. Trouble is I will only be able to stay a couple of weeks with my family - time changes us all I suppose. Soon I  will despise myself. 

27 minutes ago, Mickeymaus said:

If you are looking for this then you might have found your paradise. It was like this about 30 years ago. 

I may have been 10 years too late but Samui in 2000 was paradise to me.

1 hour ago, Bohemianfish said:

My Thai wife's view is that people, men or women, should go off the beaten path (jungle, national forest) in Thailand alone. Robbery or whatnot. The same could be said for anywhere, some places where the problem is more acute than other places. A crime of opportunity, very sad. 

 

Anyone, anywhere, should be concerned going off for a hike alone. Fall, snake bite, immobilized, no one around....

You and your wife disagree then - are you missing a "not"?

Mobile phones take care of most of those concerns but lone women are at an increased risk from men, this is the real problem we should not just be concerned about but actively doing something about. Whenever boys or men talk disrespectfully about women it should be challenged like racism should.  Some of the comments on this forum are very abusive and should not be tolerated as they foster an attitude or culture that women are there for our pleasure and to be dominated. I have been brought up with this and am also guilty at times. Yesterday in a reply to one of my posts someone said that he spanks his wife if she misbehaves - an obvious joke but really I should have called it out just as if he had said his black neighbour instead of wife should be called out as being offensive. Abuse of girls and women is a worldwide problem and we should be tackling the root cause not just the symptoms. 

5 hours ago, Mr Meeseeks said:

Didn't realise South Africa was a tourist destination.

Sure is - safari holidays, even North Korea gets tourists, just not very popular. 

7 hours ago, animalmagic said:

Aah, I see what you are referring to now.  Yes, very useful for framing someone.  Apologies for not getting your drift on first read.

No worries. Makes it a bit worrying going out around the island now when they do tricks like that. I doubt they would try to frame a farang though.

16 minutes ago, vandeventer said:

I wonder does Thailand have a large CSI lab to track down the killer or killers? If not it may be better to have than two submarine's.

If I remember correctly,  the top DNA expert got sidelined during the Kho Tao investigation. So there is expertise around but could be used selectively. It seems crime scenes don't get secured so evidence is often compromised.

6 minutes ago, bougnat said:

It can only be a Burmese, a Thai is incapable of such a thing ....

Incapable of being convicted around tourist areas but outside them they are fair game.

14 minutes ago, animalmagic said:

You don't need a sperm sample to carry out a DNA test, a simple mouth swab will give the DNA result.

So where do you think the "sample" would have ended up? Hence why I brought it up. 

9 minutes ago, Jonathan Fairfield said:

And with the incident happening to a so called Sandbox tourist the whole credibility and confidence of the reopening of Thailand could be at stake. 

A sad event that saves face of those expecting more tourists. 

5 minutes ago, Ohyesuare said:

Why does that matter? Seems she was killed and raped where the body was found.

May link her to her killer - taxi driver or even a farang. May show her stopping at or passing a restaurant with cctv with video of her being followed. Certainly could give valuable information. 

37 minutes ago, Tarteso said:

Interesting link about the worst countries for solo female travelers.. Thailand n 10.

https://kutv.com/news/nation-world/new-womens-danger-index-reveals-most-dangerous-destinations-for-solo-female-travelers

The first column looks pretty good for Thailand. Maybe events here get more publicity than say South Africa. 

2 hours ago, kwaussie said:

I hope hes had his covid shots, he is going to need them where he is going!

Especially if he gets sent home.