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It is also unclear if the horns may still be allowed in completely enclosed venues like gogos. There's hope.

Good point.

LMGTFY: https://www.google.com/search?gl=us&hl=en&q=why+exercise+doesn't+help+weight+loss Convince yourself. Not much calorie burning is under our voluntary control. Most of it is automatic. That's why CICO doesn't really work well: Calories Out can't be known with precision. You can weigh your poop, but that's not good enough.???? Exercise might make you eat more calories, negating the little you burned during exercise. Eat less, and your body will just burn less to preserve your weight. Big source of frustration for dieters: they suffer hunger without much results on the scales. Eat even less and hunger starts to become intolerable, and hunger wins. The best way out of that problem is a diet that helps you avoid hunger: low carb. Not to deny that enough counseling, sacrifice, and discipline can achieve results. E. g., Weight Watchers, one of the oldest and most successful diets of them all. We don't like to talk about WW here, though. It means spending money. Better to stay fat and medicated, living that short but happy life. I never advise very overweight people to exercise, except for slow or moderate walking, and I wince when I see them bouncing on the treadmill in the gym. They probably don't know the true condition of their cardiovascular systems, and all that weight on their joints ain't good. Best lose weight first, get a checkup, then ease into fitness with safety.

No, you just go around in a circle repeating assertions. First, it's about eating the right food. Then they can eat as much as they like while staying at a normal weight. "Moderation" becomes inapplicable. Exercise, particularly in moderation, is pretty much useless for weight loss and may even cause weight gain. That isn't the problem, and so you can't possibly have given the answer. No point in oversimplifying merely because you can't grasp the complexity of weight loss in insulin-resistant metabolisms, which is most of them nowadays.

Makes my point well. Suck it up, address the issue. Push away from the table = leaves people hungry = starving in their minds, as I've heard one say not long ago. Exercising enough to burn any appreciable amount of fat = sweat Intolerable suffering, starve & sweat. A point of pride, of course, for the few doing it successfully and then who promote it as simple and workable for others, most of whom have already screwed up their metabolisms.

Can continue stuffing themselves with broccoli and spinach quickly and can eat a kilo or two until satiated. Doing that won't cause weight gain. Maybe some weight loss through diarrhea. ????

And so it's never simple to end a way of life, as you find out quickly when dealing with Thais, for example. The usual old bromides (beloved by Nutritionists here) such as push away from the table and the good ol' starve & sweat don't work--not just for "a lot of us" but for most fat people, already insulin resistance. Everybody already knows the outdated methods. Tried, failed. No. https://www.google.com/search?gl=us&hl=en&q=exercising+makes+me+hungry

Because too much of what matters. Other things equal, too much of broccoli and spinach ain't causing obesity. Moving is pretty useless for losing weight or necessarily even keeping it off. In fact, exercise can just make you hungrier, as you "work up an appetite." Why oversimplify?

Where are the yobs belonging to other nationalities making similar problems in Pattaya? Incidents? Many of those?

True, and claiming Thais all gang up. If only it was a fair fight, the Thai would get his b.u.tt kicked by the farang. Wrong. ???? Let's keep this in mind.

But somebody will say anything, most of it nonsense. I wouldn't pay too much attention.

Sometimes I think it's criminal what's happening to these kids. The results are already evident.

Nowadays doc would be accused of fat shaming and lose a patient. Most people hate that idea. Anyway, though exercise has many important benefits, and I take it very seriously, it doesn't much help anyone lose weight. Diet is key.

No, one of the common forum myths. The vast majority aren't fat from eating American junk food. They're fat throughout Thailand in locations without fast food restos. Cokes etc. are too expensive to drink that much of. Most posters have got it right, know what the kids are usually eating. Once a week or so I have opportunity to pass by and glance out of a window into a soi where a group of about 6 neighborhood kids often play after school. If they're not actively eating sweets, they're carrying around and taking swigs from water bottles filled with, basically, flavored sugar water.

For all you know, they bought it 6 mos before leaving Russia, and it was 35k at the time, with the latest models priced even higher. Nor do you know what model it is, exactly, or what features it has. Here's one on Ebay for B47,697.12. Note that Ebay defaults to giving you the price in local (as determined by access location) currency, not, as you would expect, the price in the country of origin. So they could well value it at 35k for themselves. The article isn't talking about "worth." It's talking price, and so were you--while trying to equate different contexts even in the absence of required info.

Catching up w/ posting on the forum, for example.

"Fast results" aren't desirable and not what you'll get if doing it optimally. Intermittent fasting is daily. Some add in one 36-hour fast a week. 5:2 has a good track record and was popular in the UK. Active forum here: https://thefastdiet.co.uk/forums/. Seems healthier than the every-other-day method. I tried it once after a 4-month holiday enjoying the hospitality of my fat friends in the USA, and it was effective. But it didn't have that much to do, really. There are a number of intermittent fasting methods.

Yep, you dunno when they bought it or the recent price in Russia. Oh, and prices are quoted in baht in these Thai news accounts so that people needn't look up the exchange rate themselves to get an idea of the value.

Inevitable, obvious nonsense. We heard it when a Thai lady got a big payout after a groping by an Indian. Ain't happened since.

Well, but a Mickey Mouse tattoo makes all the difference. Brooks no laughter.

In Russia?

Yes, because they are going to continue consuming it. However, they're going to enjoy that short but happy life recommended by most all our posters, so the hand wringing is merely phony.

Job done.

Maybe progress achieved? But the drinking . . . .

No, just the usual myth for bashing purposes.