SHYTALK

Already tried to ask SHYTALK some direct questions but he avoids them and goes for mindbogglingly dull rhetoric every time instead.

Hence it is clear he is a troll.

Not worthy of reply.

Hi All.

It seems to me that SHYTALK is an over zealous PR man, he has taken over many threads with his

I Love Thaksin properganda, One can only feel that he is well paid by the Thaksin PR MACHINE

that he probably works for, So SHYTALK what abot some truth about Thaksin, He is a convicted criminal

with a massive ego and large ambition to be the lord and master of Thailand. Where people can go missing overnight and no person or group dare ask questions. a place he can change the law at the drop of a hat to plunder Thailands treasury, as he did before, The only people who want him back are the Ignorant Reds who are promised everything by their leaders who in turn are being well rewarded by their Lord and Master and his family.

The truth is you are "drawing your truth" from the propoganda of the PAD and yellow ones, on here , overzealous PR men.

Draw your truths from the actual message, not the "propagandered" version.

Regardless of the personalities the message is simple,honest,truthful, rightful, whoever the personalities.

Ignorant reds - shameful.

People can have all the opinions they want, what is upsetting, however, is their refusal to engage in a meaningful conversation while flooding the board with identical posts regardless of topic at hand.

I put you at almost 10K.

I bow to my master

Ahh...the ever present scapegoat theory. How refreshing.

Senseless PAD beatings in Udon:red scapegoats!

PAD killings in Chiagmai:red scapegoats!

Santi Asoke raids:red scapegoats!

Abhisit's assassination attempts:red scapegoats!

Pattaya riot: red scapegoats!

Songkran Mayhem (one Thai Muslim who came out to fight the reds, got killed by a gunshot): red scapegoats!

Doctored tape:red scapegoats!

Ballot Boxing:red scapegoats!

What poor folks, the reds.

Military coups and junta appointed judiciary:red scapegoats

Looks like this guy still has "embedded" friends in high places.

Not so good news for the other potatoe peelers though.

Off-topic, but I personally could sense collective relief in Bangkok on three occasions

a) In the aftermath of the coup

When Abhisit became PM

c) When the Songkran rioters admitted defeat

Another issue that I was reminded of when seeing that photo of a red-shirt with a bullet wound on the New Mandela blog - a staff member in our office had a relative who was hospitalised by the Oct 7 police actions. I'm sure other expats in Bangkok are not too distantly linked to other victims. Yet it's taken the red shirts 6 months to obtain photos of people who were injured in the clampdown.

Another noteworthy item when comparing sides - if I remember correctly the PAD were determined to protest on during the Oct 7 exploding-tear gas clampdown, yet during the Songkran clampdown many red T-shirts could be found abandoned.

Seems like 500 baht doesn't have much staying power.

As has been stated on tv , the Bangkok riot police were needed on Oct 7 , why?

Because the PAD and yellow ones gathering had descended into an riot, which the PAD leaders had whipped up.

That was the difference between the two.

It was nice to see in the poll over the weekend that a large majority of those polled want the government to soldier on (if you'll excuse the pun), public fatigue with the red shirts seems to be high.

As an aside, what happened to the zealous contributor, Si Racha John?

A better question would have been " would you care to vote for a government in an election".

So whats the hold up?

Regards SRJ I seen a post of his somewhere on a current thread.

It was after the military coup and the comment was " free, free , free at last" ??

Maybe the guys in the white shirts got him.

He has turned into a professional troll. Each ban just pushes him deeper into his fanboy madness I fear.

Nothing meaningful to contribute there then.

But takes a bigger one to know one.

At least I know I'm not mad, got a certificate to prove it.

Hmm mjust a question Mr.T got convicted by who?Hmmm,what i remember is,he got convicted by the guys who sacked a free elected government,wonder how valid a prison sentence is in that case

Do you need a lesson in how curt-proceedings work and who works there?

And what court that has power over what area?

Thats precisely what the courts need.

And you are the proper person to re-educate those professional jurists,

after they they already trained in university and several decades each

of practical juristic experience.

~And of course while you appoint yourself to the job,

you ignore the question above ertaining to separation between courts jurisdictions.

Clearly you don't differentiate between one court of the next,

it is just one amorphous colosal 'controlled judiciary'.

What utter claptrap.

You surely have your arrogance knob twirled up to high, almost to Thaksin level.

There he sits all high and mighty.

Paid his 5 baht but couldn't sh*tey

In a democracy jurors are drawn from the electorate .

But where would he go , now the cell is taken by Sondi.

And half are PTP.... Or their allies making more than 2/3

They don't seem to be able to read ANY laws, let alone make them.

Maybe a more fitting question; why do the democrats seem to be above any law. According to Bangkok Post, there was at least one democrat minister that where let of the hook because shares "too small". If anything have been learnt the past year and half its that NO case is too small when it comes to the opposition.

Please read what I posted in this thread at #8. (Maybe a more fitting question: why don't people bother making sure that they know what they are talking about before they even open their mouths?) And PS, that Dem MP was not the only MP who got cleared in this round...if you had bothered to pause and think, you would have seen that there were 28=44-16 other MPs who got cleared by the EC in this round. And those 27 MPs (already minus the Dem one) certainly were from all politcal parties.)

:yawn:

"LORD ABI-CHARLES"

" You mean like me !"

He declares himself winner.

But with nothing to back it up.

Is much of anyone backing up this SLY TALK. Nope.

Many thoughtful minds do retort versus the endless stream of sameness.

But I bet one or two in the office will suddenly be directed to this thread for a spell.

Only 1 or two others with very very similar styles and subject limitations

are doing similar spam like Propaganda Duties,

and seems to be building from a grand denouement.

It also appears that they are splitting up across threads to target specific topics or posters.

Seems I have inherited SLY TALK as my albatross for the moment.

C'est la vie, I sail on regardless of the superstitious claptrap merchant.

Professional SPAMSTER, one endless topic, and just a few variations...

Makes it so obviously disingenuous, not from the heart, but boilerplate.

So all those that can actually think for themselves see through it like cellophane.

Not so, there is one with its back up.

For a moment I thought you were having another go at me!

But don't fit that id parade.

But a big fat duck egg from that great democracy thailand.

Thailand a great democracy??? When?

It has some democratic institutiots,

but Thaksin raped many of them asunder with his greed.

Big duck egg???

Well that explains where you get your point of view from!

But from down there things should be looking up.

No where else to go from so far down in the slime.

Not all your quacked up to be maybe? Take off your yoke

of the proto-oppressor Thaksin, and be free.

Leave it, its over your head, but go break off your shackles of the "force-fed " , and join with the ranks of the "free -range"

Your just an old , washed up , "battery-hen"

Thaksin used elections as a tool to rise to the top and rule over everybody else in an imperial manner. Other tools he tried for the same purpose were connections, bribery, money and advertising.

The idea that all citizens are equal is absolutely foreign to him, and everybody's equality is the starting point for any democracy.

And the fundemental concept is one person one vote.

And the right to use that vote.

"Reconciliation", is fine in cash registers, cash drawers and receipts at the end of the day.

Or between the prodigal son and the parents, or estranged families after many years.

But if ignoring laws and giving a free pass to graft is ALSO reconciliation,

it is a dangerous and useless definition. Sounds more like Lloyd George's appeasement.

I think it is Neville Chamberlain who was linked to the British Conservative appeasment policy towards the expansion plans of Hitler. The Munich agreament was supposed to ensure peace in Europe but was in fact the prelude of World War 2. The lesson seems to be be that by appeasing a dictator (or a big boss ?) one is seen as weak and therefore more demands are made. But then appeasement and loss of face have a certain dynamic that is important in Thai politics

Yes, thank you, Chamberlain. (sorry Mr George.)

Yes, and it is that face saving dynamic of appeasement that Thaksin is playing on so cynically.

For The Remians Of The Day, we shall wonder which is the best course,

in the morning all will be clear.

Yes, the morning after a general election, when democracy is restored.

First; one has to say that this court has had no sanction from the people via the ballot box , and therefore has no place in a democratic society.

Having said that, the judicial system is of Sondhi's own creation and he has been more than happy to see it used on his opponents.

Therefore it is appropriate in his case that he his tried by his own justice.

Hoisted by his own petard.

A victim of his own type justice.

A reaper of his own sowing.

As luck would have it a unit is presently available , on a two year term, so can be immediately occupied.

And the fate of its occupant can be in keeping with the fate of its would-be occupant, as diatribed here on tv.

Sondi's circle will no doubt widen , when introduced his new friends.

Now an appeal is mentioned, which hopefully will be in keeping with "Sondi's Law" , and increase the sentance to 10 years,

Bang..

Next please..

Shytalk>> You need to broaden your library of snippet to paste into every thread here all days.

TAWP>> Didn't know you cared.

Best to keep it short, precise , and to the point.

No bigger point to make than electoral democracy is there.

Nowl it would be of fine benefit to global warming if some of the hot air merchants on tv were a little more economical with the words.

I will continue to post to my library thank you, rather than some examples of your library, in the posts you have had deleted recently.

Electoral democracy is a bit of a weird term. Democracy is by definition electoral and hence it is redundant to state that. The usual debate over demcoracy is about pure or representative democracy and of course what other features democracy by its nature entails such as checks and balances, feedoms and rights.

Virtually every democracy is representative with Switzerland usually being the example of pure democracy.

A very strange comment to make about a country (Thailand; on ThaiVisa) that has military coups every few years to 'maintain democracy'...

Very simple and very telling.

"LORD ABI-CHARLES"

Why does everybody get me confused with Abisit !.

I am posh and elite and I went to Eton Public school.......oh!..... so did Abi

But I am a ventriloquist's dummy with a mystery hand up my chuff......oh!.......so is Abi.

I have two best mates "titch and quackers ".........oh!.....so has Abi

But you cannot take me seriously,my words are anothers,.....oh!.....same with Abi

It's dull debating with Thaksin apologists because they don't accept that democracy means transparency, checks and balances and the rule of law as well as elections.

How many times did Thaksin answer questions in Parliament? Almost never, those duties were assigned to subordinates.

He even dissolved Parliament to avoid being grilled about Themasek!

The man is afraid of the pillars of democracy and hides behind numbers.

It may be dull where you are, back in the dark ages, with your military coups and juntas,

But if thats where you want to be , your'e in good company.

Democracy starts with elections.

The people give their mandate to the manifesto of the representatives they elect via the ballot box.

If you havn't got that fundemental starting principle , you havn't got democracy.

If the people answer to the military , and not vice versa, you havn't got democracy.

The elected representatives of the people make the laws , if they don't, you havn't got democracy.

All are given their authority at the ballot box by the people, only the people can take it away.

Straight forward concept, unless it doesn't suit you.

The tape has been confirmed by Khunying Porntip that it was really doctored. I'm really looking forward to hearing more on findings about this tape.

One of the very few believable voices in the land.

Unlike you then.

Hmm mjust a question Mr.T got convicted by who?Hmmm,what i remember is,he got convicted by the guys who sacked a free elected government,wonder how valid a prison sentence is in that case

The squarehead got convicted of viloating the law that has been in place since the time the squarehead was in power. That law was not brought about by the Junta. It was written in stone since Squarehead was in power. The judges had been appointed before the coup as well. So how did the junta have anything to do with the conviction? I guess, unlike other laws, Squarehead just forgot to change this one to suit his own interests at the expense of the public, huh?

How about that big gun they were running around Bangkok with.

Hmm mjust a question Mr.T got convicted by who?Hmmm,what i remember is,he got convicted by the guys who sacked a free elected government,wonder how valid a prison sentence is in that case

Do you need a lesson in how curt-proceedings work and who works there?

And what court that has power over what area?

Thats precisely what the courts need.

Not to mention the turd in the punchbowl Kuhnt Thaksin himself.

Takes a bigger one to know one.

They army won't use force eh, I wonder who was telling them they should?

One interrogatory statement invites another: Who would benefit by the use of force? Certainly not the government or the people of Thailand.

Take a statement from the people who benefited from the illegal military coup.

TiT and realpolitik, i.e., the US Ambassador to Thailand visits the coup appointed PM Gen Surayud in the PM's ofice his first day on the job to wish the military's choice PM Suryaud well and to discuss the future of democracy in Thailand.

TiT, the US which with other Western democracies oppose coups d'etat respectfully pay a courtesy call on the junta gvernment of Thailand.

TiT we continue to witness that the rule of law doesn't necessarily apply in Thailand for reasons very specific to Thailand and in accordance with the national interests of several Western governments.

TiT.

Must have been a very short talk then

You should make a film if thats how you see it.

fairy story.