British Man Dies in Bangkok After Alleged Drink Spiking

5 hours ago, Georgealbert said:

the pair had reportedly had their drinks spiked with a combination of cocaine and heroin.

Whats the name of the bar ?

Asking for a friend!

11 minutes ago, Andrew Banks said:

Wow. Have some respect. Whatever happened…what is the matter with you? Obnoxious.

A doper dies, nobody cares but family & friends, maybe.

38 yr old, and you'd thing an intelligent, mature, responsible adult by now, guess not. Not a whole lot of sympathy, as I've been around self inflicting drug addicts and Alkys all my life.

Live (or Die) with your choices.

Just now, KhunLA said:

A doper dies, nobody cares but family & friends, maybe.

38 yr old, and you'd thing an intelligent, mature, responsible adult by now, guess not. Nnot a whole lot of sympathy, as I've been around self inflicting drug addicts and Alkys all my life.

Live (or Die) with your choices.

'Well thank you for attending your interview with us here today KhunLA but I'm afraid we won't be taking your application any further'

Yours sincerely

The Samaritans

So what bar/nightclub where they in, has a autopsy been carried out yet.

A lot more to this story, that will never be released I guess.

While I generally laugh at the "detectives" on this site ... have to say ... this is a rare example where a very credible scenario has been presented. It certainly makes more sense than "spiked drinks" ...

5 hours ago, BilllyGOAT said:

Who would spike someone’s drink with heroin and cocaine, and for what? It does not add up, unless the reporting is wrong about which drugs were involved. Perhaps they were simply using recreationally and accidentally overdosed, and then she claimed her drink was spiked when she got to the hospital to avoid being arrested for Class 1 drug use. My guess is that only cocaine was involved, possibly cut with too much fentanyl, and that could be what killed him. Fentanyl might also show up positive for heroin in a drug test. She may also have worried she could be charged with his death if she admitted they had taken the drugs together, especially if the authorities believed she was the one who gave him the drugs. She probably also did not want his clients, family and friends to know that he was taking drugs and overdosed, hence the spiked drink story.

5 hours ago, BilllyGOAT said:

Who would spike someone’s drink with heroin and cocaine, and for what? It does not add up, unless the reporting is wrong about which drugs were involved. Perhaps they were simply using recreationally and accidentally overdosed, and then she claimed her drink was spiked when she got to the hospital to avoid being arrested for Class 1 drug use. My guess is that only cocaine was involved, possibly cut with too much fentanyl, and that could be what killed him. Fentanyl might also show up positive for heroin in a drug test. She may also have worried she could be charged with his death if she admitted they had taken the drugs together, especially if the authorities believed she was the one who gave him the drugs. She probably also did not want his clients, family and friends to know that he was taking drugs and overdosed, hence the spiked drink story.

I tend to agree with your suggestion i think it holds more likelihood.

26 minutes ago, Jiggo said:

So what bar/nightclub where they in, has a autopsy been carried out yet.

A lot more to this story, that will never be released I guess.

If it was a heroin & cocaine OD, then it doesn't take much to know what happen. Anyone still think it was spiked drinks ?

Strange, no official cause of death reported.

It used to be called a "speedball" I think.

5 hours ago, cjinchiangrai said:

It is called speedballing, the heroin provides euphoria and the coke keeps them awake to enjoy it. With all of the ice and fentanyl floating around as cheap cuts it could easily turn lethal. More commonly we see drunks on ice. That does not work well either.

Who are all you people on this topic??? I don't know about any of this stuff.

No mention of a formal pos-mortem on the deceased just a rapid funeral cremation today........!

No one is going to spike their drinks with expensive drugs like heroin and coke.

My guess, were doing drug, got some coke cut with heroin and OD'd

Their family is likely pitching this story for the insurance payout.

Funny how quickly he's being cremated

4 hours ago, NedR69 said:

How do so many Brits take off work for such a long time - 6 weeks! Do thirty-something year old Brits have careers that allow them to take off for so long??

In my last job I would work for three months and then spend 28-30 days here and then repeat the process for 6 years!

PS; I could easily have done 4/5 months and then stayed 6 weeks!

PPS; Even then I only worked a 4 day week!

1 hour ago, BritManToo said:

How could their mother in the UK possibly know that.

Agree, the mother obviously hasn't been told the truth

1 hour ago, Jonathan Swift said:

"Woke" here

Sorry to hear, I hope you get well soon

25 minutes ago, John Drake said:

Who are all you people on this topic??? I don't know about any of this stuff.

You've led a sheltered life then. The 90's must have passed you by without you noticing 😁

5 hours ago, cjinchiangrai said:

It is called speedballing, the heroin provides euphoria and the coke keeps them awake to enjoy it. With all of the ice and fentanyl floating around as cheap cuts it could easily turn lethal. More commonly we see drunks on ice. That does not work well either.

Fentanyl goes good, I'd defo have a go of a fentanyl laced speed ball.

6 hours ago, save the frogs said:

Is that common? To spike drinks with heroin and cocaine? Never heard of that before.

No, it's not. No one puts coke or H in a drink. My assumption is that they were speedballing, then she overdosed and was brought to a hospital, while he went back to his hotel to do some more where he then overdosed and died.

The problem with speedballs is that the coke allows you to do more of the heroin than you could do without the coke, but it also wears off a lot quicker than the H, so you have to reload coke in frequent intervals. If you run out of coke before the heroin level in your systems goes below to what is survivable for you, you die of a heroin overdose. That's why speedballs are so dangerous if you're greedy.

28 minutes ago, johnnybangkok said:

You've led a sheltered life then. The 90's must have passed you by without you noticing 😁

The 90s Chemical Menu: Home-cooked MDMA. Hit rate: 60% euphoria, 40% mystery amphetamine. LSD microdots so tiny you'd lose three just trying to pick one up. Codeine cough syrup, (Favorite of the bar girls). Special K: Just for the taste. Shrooms for breakfast. And lots and lots of grass.

33 minutes ago, Ralf001 said:

Fentanyl goes good, I'd defo have a go of a fentanyl

It should be freely available, we would see less foreigners falling from balconies

2 hours ago, johnnybangkok said:

'Well thank you for attending your interview with us here today KhunLA but I'm afraid we won't be taking your application any further'

Yours sincerely

The Samaritans

Witty response...and not snarky or nasty.

Thanks for my chuckle of the day.

3 hours ago, Jonathan Swift said:

"Woke" here. No, I don't believe the story. And I doubt any other "woke" is going to take this at face value without question. The facts have yet to be revealed, other than that they OD'd on something. As is usual, this story is premature as are most of the comments and opinions here. Anything else you want to blame your "wokes" for? Like everything you think is wrong with the world? Maybe you could develop some simple compassion and humanity before it's too late. These are people who died, and it's a tragedy. People are suffering and in pain as a result. Do you take pleasure in human suffering? Yeah, you do if it's one of your "woke" enemies. I imagine you'd find it too disruptive to your life and your mind to have to acknowledge that everyone has the right to their humanity and point of view without being judged by cranks like yourself.

Go easy on him Jonathan. He doesn’t yet understand that to call us woke makes our chests swell with pride.

Even Jonny Fartpants has gone months without using woke as an insult. (See his/her next right wing rant).

There are more questions than answers in this OP.

Which bar in Bangkok?

Is there CCTV footage?

Which hotel were they staying at?

What did her bloods show traces of when she was hospitalised?

RIP young man.

Young lady; get ready to answer some awkward questions.

8 hours ago, save the frogs said:

Is that common? To spike drinks with heroin and cocaine? Never heard of that before.

Unlikely. Why would anyone spike their drinks with heroin and coke, many hours apart? Just an overdose.

51 minutes ago, CMHomeboy78 said:

Witty response...and not snarky or nasty.

Thanks for my chuckle of the day.

'So you think I'm funny? Funny how? Funny like a clown? Do I amuse you?'

😉

8 hours ago, BilllyGOAT said:

Who would spike someone’s drink with heroin and cocaine, and for what? It does not add up, unless the reporting is wrong about which drugs were involved. Perhaps they were simply using recreationally and accidentally overdosed, and then she claimed her drink was spiked when she got to the hospital to avoid being arrested for Class 1 drug use. My guess is that only cocaine was involved, possibly cut with too much fentanyl, and that could be what killed him. Fentanyl might also show up positive for heroin in a drug test. She may also have worried she could be charged with his death if she admitted they had taken the drugs together, especially if the authorities believed she was the one who gave him the drugs. She probably also did not want his clients, family and friends to know that he was taking drugs and overdosed, hence the spiked drink story.

You got it in one. She’s a junkie back in rehab. It’s a cover story to cover her a**e. It was well reported in the UK press yesterday. And the original posting of this is nearly word for word from the Sun newspaper.

Who would waste their own drugs on somebody else's drinks?

His family described his death as “sudden, accidental and unexpected,”

Accidental that sounds more like self inflicted ,if someone had spiked

their drinks it would be murder,sounds like they put too much stuff up

their nose , nothing to do with drinks , It had to be someone else's fault

other wise she would get done for having class A drugs , I think a made

up story about drinks been spiked , makes it look bad for Thailand but.

regards worgeordie

6 hours ago, BritManToo said:

The symptoms are of methanol poisoning.

Same as all those tourists dying in Laos.

These are the main symptoms of methanol poisoning. At least according to the OP, none of these were reported in this case.

12-48 hours after drinking: abdominal pain, vertigo, hyperventilation, breathlessness, blurred vision and/or blindness, coma and convulsions. If you or someone you are travelling with have any of these symptoms seek urgent medical attention. Vision issues are a red flag and can also appear 12-48 hours after the first drink. Methanol poisoning can cause blurry vision, trouble looking at bright lights, and in some cases complete blindness. “Snowfield vision” (seeing snowy static like an old TV) or tunnel vision can also occur. If you have any of these symptoms, seek urgent medical help.

https://travelaware.campaign.gov.uk/spiking-and-methanol-poisoning/

9 hours ago, Dcheech said:

Spiking drinks with Heroin is not common, but it has happend. It will kill a person, for sure. How Heather knows this is not stated.

Seeing she is Tom’s mother ,I assume a doctor at the hospital would have told his family.

If their drinks were spiked, then there is no need to commence an investigation for drug possession or drug use. No need to search their residence or possessions.

As I mentioned earlier in a sarcastic post about the GoFundMe, I did not want to sound cynical in light of someone’s untimely death. But to put it plainly, saying the death was caused by drink spiking will attract far more sympathy, and likely more donations on a GoFundMe, than admitting it was the result of an accidental drug overdose. That is why I think they may have chosen to go with the spiked drink story.

I also saw posts suggesting that the death may have been caused by contaminated alcohol and methanol poisoning, among other possible explanations. However, I assume cocaine and heroin were mentioned in the article because a toxicology test was likely performed during the autopsy of the man. As I said before, I think only one recreational drug was intentionally taken here, namely cocaine. My assumption is that the toxicology report was positive for both cocaine and heroin because the cocaine may have been adulterated with heroin and too much fentanyl, which is possibly what caused the overdose and death rather than the cocaine itself.