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Pilot Raises Alarm Over ‘Pay to Fly’ in Thailand

A prominent Thai pilot has called for an investigation into the controversial “Pay to Fly” system, warning that it could place airline passengers at risk. On 10 June, Sanong Mingcharoen publicly urged authorities to examine the practice, claiming that some pilots are required to pay millions of baht to certain airlines in exchange for flying opportunities that allow them to build flight hours and gain experience.

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According to Sanong, the system requires aspiring pilots to pay substantial sums in order to work, rather than receiving wages in the same way as employees in other professions. He said that before booking a future flight, passengers should understand how the system operates, adding that he personally tries to avoid airlines that recruit pilots through Pay to Fly arrangements.

Sanong explained that the system allows airlines to reduce training costs by transferring the financial burden to pilots. He questioned whether this cost-saving measure could have wider implications for aviation safety and passenger confidence.

He outlined several concerns about the practice. First, pilots who take on significant debt to secure flying opportunities may face considerable financial pressure. He cited aviation safety research indicating that financial stress can directly affect concentration and decision-making in the cockpit.

Second, he argued that while airlines benefit from lower training expenses, the financial burden is shifted to individual pilots. Third, he warned that pilots who have invested large sums of money may be reluctant to report operational problems or safety concerns for fear of losing their positions and the money they have already paid. He described a culture of job insecurity as a major threat to aviation safety.

Sanong also questioned whether pilots who effectively purchase flying positions can be assessed in the same way as pilots selected solely through standard recruitment procedures. He said this remains an important question that has yet to be answered.

The pilot further highlighted the legal status of the system. He stated that in several countries, including the United Kingdom and parts of Europe, Pay to Fly arrangements are clearly prohibited under labour laws. In Thailand, however, he described the issue as a legal grey area where regulations have not kept pace with industry practices.

As a result, he called on the Civil Aviation Authority of Thailand (CAAT) to introduce regulations preventing licensed airlines in Thailand from using the Pay to Fly system. He also urged the Ministry of Labour to investigate whether the practice violates labour protection laws or represents a new form of worker exploitation.

Daily News reported that Sanong encouraged consumers to ask airlines directly whether they use Pay to Fly recruitment practices. He concluded that a safe aviation industry should begin with fair employment policies, warning that unanswered questions may persist until an accident occurs.

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newbee2022 Star Member

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3 hours ago, Georgealbert said:

A prominent Thai pilot has called for an investigation into the controversial “Pay to Fly” system, warning that it could place airline passengers at risk. On 10 June, Sanong Mingcharoen publicly urged authorities to examine the practice, claiming that some pilots are required to pay millions of baht to certain airlines in exchange for flying opportunities that allow them to build flight hours and gain experience.

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According to Sanong, the system requires aspiring pilots to pay substantial sums in order to work, rather than receiving wages in the same way as employees in other professions. He said that before booking a future flight, passengers should understand how the system operates, adding that he personally tries to avoid airlines that recruit pilots through Pay to Fly arrangements.

Sanong explained that the system allows airlines to reduce training costs by transferring the financial burden to pilots. He questioned whether this cost-saving measure could have wider implications for aviation safety and passenger confidence.

He outlined several concerns about the practice. First, pilots who take on significant debt to secure flying opportunities may face considerable financial pressure. He cited aviation safety research indicating that financial stress can directly affect concentration and decision-making in the cockpit.

Second, he argued that while airlines benefit from lower training expenses, the financial burden is shifted to individual pilots. Third, he warned that pilots who have invested large sums of money may be reluctant to report operational problems or safety concerns for fear of losing their positions and the money they have already paid. He described a culture of job insecurity as a major threat to aviation safety.

Sanong also questioned whether pilots who effectively purchase flying positions can be assessed in the same way as pilots selected solely through standard recruitment procedures. He said this remains an important question that has yet to be answered.

The pilot further highlighted the legal status of the system. He stated that in several countries, including the United Kingdom and parts of Europe, Pay to Fly arrangements are clearly prohibited under labour laws. In Thailand, however, he described the issue as a legal grey area where regulations have not kept pace with industry practices.

As a result, he called on the Civil Aviation Authority of Thailand (CAAT) to introduce regulations preventing licensed airlines in Thailand from using the Pay to Fly system. He also urged the Ministry of Labour to investigate whether the practice violates labour protection laws or represents a new form of worker exploitation.

Daily News reported that Sanong encouraged consumers to ask airlines directly whether they use Pay to Fly recruitment practices. He concluded that a safe aviation industry should begin with fair employment policies, warning that unanswered questions may persist until an accident occurs.

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Interesting. Name the airlines

Ubonian Canadian Senior Member

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This is totally absurd. What a ridiculous system. This scheme should be struck from the books.

It appears there should be many more complaints about this strategy. 😡

1duckyboy Advanced Member

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The Thai pilot raised many valid concerns but I think the only way changes will come about is if other countries ban airlines who allow purchasing of pilot positions.

Grusa Gold Member

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Never mind the "Pay to Get a Licence" system that operates in many flight schools, (and other industries)

BKKBike09 Gold Member

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Part of the problem in Thailand is the lack of non-carrier flying opportunities.

A newly-minted CPL in Thailand typically has around 250-300 hours total actual (as opposed to sim) time, all of which will be in light piston singles or twins. Unlike in USA or Europe, there are virtually no opportunities for these pilots to go on and build time in Thailand as instructors, flying charter, domestic freight or whatever.

Hardly surprising therefore that schemes like 'Pay To Fly' can flourish.

lapamita Silver Member

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26 minutes ago, Ubonian Canadian said:

This is totally absurd. What a ridiculous system. This scheme should be struck from the books.

It appears there should be many more complaints about this strategy. 😡

Nothing new and practice in the west since llloooong time

An innovation first apear in the USA , where else,no surprise

and today its practice all over the world mostly by low cost carriers , from Pegasus to Vietjet

in some countrys unions flight , and its illegal

google

Vietjet (and its subsidiary Thai Vietjet) utilizes Pay to Fly (P2F) and Cadet Pilot Programs which require pilots to pay for their initial training, type-rating, and line training in exchange for flight hours and potential employment. These programs generally cost between $20,000 to $50,000 depending on experience and the specific airline partner schools

TheFishman1 Platinum Member

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Not shocking to me whatsoever in Thailand you’re a cop and you wanna get promoted you gotta pay your way to get promoted or you buy the test answers and school works the same way I know a teacher who used to write papers for students wanting to have a PhD they’d write the paper for the student get paid for Thailand is corrupt from the top to the bottom do you think these governors don’t get a take of every new Big business corporation that opens up in their district how about the chief of Police these guys are millionaires want to spend a lot of time in Dubai go figure TIT

ronnie50 Platinum Member

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Of course the airlines aren't named..

VocalNeal Star Member

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32 minutes ago, lapamita said:

Vietjet (and its subsidiary Thai Vietjet) utilizes Pay to Fly (P2F) and Cadet Pilot Programs which require pilots to pay for their initial training, type-rating, and line training in exchange for flight hours and potential employment. These programs generally cost between $20,000 to $50,000 depending on experience and the specific airline partner schools

Ions ago when I investigated helicopter training in UK It was 40 pounds an hour for the first 40 hours and then substantially more to get up to 100 hours to get a commercial licence. Now it is about $30,000 for a PPL and $95,000 for a basic commercial licence.

Then to get a job you needed much more than 100 hours as you needed to pay for type certification etc. So I bought a car instead.

Training for flying has never been cheap.

I know at least two guys who flew for dodgy airlines doing dodgy jobs in West Africa simply to get the hours.

Then there used to be all the guys flying for the likes of Susi Air in Papua.

Flying has never been cheap unless one could- in the old days- get sponsored by BA and go to Hamble.

Srikcir Ruby Member

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50 minutes ago, lapamita said:

Nothing new and practice in the west since llloooong time

"in the West"?

Not in US, Canada, UK, France, EU.

Ralf001 Star Member

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That female that just laned a pilot job at Thai Air, she got minted parents ?

banyanman Explorer Member

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A prominent Thai pilot has called for an investigation into the controversial “Pay to Fly” system, warning that it could place airline passengers at risk. On 10 June, Sanong Mingcharoen publicly urged authorities to examine the practice, claiming that some pilots are required to pay millions of baht to certain airlines in exchange for flying opportunities that allow them to build flight hours and gain experience.

5 hours ago, Georgealbert said:

5 hours ago, Georgealbert said:

Daily News reported that Sanong encouraged consumers to ask airlines directly whether they use Pay to Fly recruitment practices.

Yes, I'm sure the airlines will give you an honest answer to that question .

MikeandDow Ruby Member

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30 minutes ago, Srikcir said:

"in the West"?

Not in US, Canada, UK, France, EU.

And you know this how !!!

petermik Ruby Member

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39 minutes ago, Ralf001 said:

That female that just laned a pilot job at Thai Air, she got minted parents ?

There are more ways of gaining favour where females are concerned.....U never know.

ronnie50 Platinum Member

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Someow I'm not surprised by this in Thailand.

Aside from airlines, here are some common employment tricks by crooked Thai employers:

  • Hire someone on minimum wage, promising a raise and health insurance, etc., but only after they complete 3 months of a trial period. Then when the 3 months is completed, they don't renew the contract for some flimsy reason and do the same thing all over again with another person.

  • If an employee phones in sick, they are docked that day's pay

  • In addition to docking the pay for a day absent, many employers in medium sized shops will cut wages even further for the amount of business/income lost because the employee wasn't there doing the job and making money for the business.

  • I've heard stories about police (not sure if this is true) where they had to pay a pooyai to get the job as a cop, then had to buy their own motorcycle and even their own gun!

Edit to add: According to Thai labor lawyers and officials at the ILO in Bangkok, the Thai Labor Court often sides with the employee/worker over their employer if a case/complaint ever makes it that far.

Ralf001 Star Member

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11 minutes ago, ronnie50 said:
  • I've heard stories about police (not sure if this is true) where they had to pay a pooyai to get the job as a cop, then had to buy their own motorcycle and even their own gun!

They are now issued handguns, not sure on the transportation.

unblocktheplanet Diamond Member

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8 hours ago, ronnie50 said:

Of course the airlines aren't named..

To name the airlines is not defamation, just making the public aware of an airline's practices, like baggage allowance.

unblocktheplanet Diamond Member

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9 hours ago, ronnie50 said:

Of course the airlines aren't named..

I have emailed Khun Sanong to ask that he name the airlines.

Sir Dude Gold Member

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Well, not a suprise really, as corruption has wormed its way into every corner of everything here, from a monoply on paper clips and stationary to airlines and military procurement, and there is probably a mafia for toothpicks here... no exceptions.

If the locals spent as much time trying to forward the country to a first-world entity as they do toward scamming and brown envelopes, then it would be like Singapore here. Sadly, not going to happen.

Ralf001 Star Member

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53 minutes ago, Sir Dude said:

Well, not a suprise really, as corruption has wormed its way into every corner of everything here

Is buying a job corruption ?

MikeandDow Ruby Member

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29 minutes ago, Ralf001 said:

Is buying a job corruption ?

It is a clear and direct form of corruption

MikeandDow Ruby Member

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8 hours ago, Ralf001 said:

They are now issued handguns, not sure on the transportation.

Thai police are NOT issued with hand guns they have to buy them the Royal Thai Police do not provide standard-issue sidearms Officers typically buy their duty weapons through government-subsidized "welfare" schemes or private purchases, often paying them off via salary deductions

Sigmund Gold Member

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All goes with the packet as it is same for government promotions, mainly in the Police force, where they have to pay a hefty bribe to get a higher rank promotion.

MikeandDow Ruby Member

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4 minutes ago, Sigmund said:

All goes with the packet as it is same for government promotions, mainly in the Police force, where they have to pay a hefty bribe to get a higher rank promotion.

You are correct it is the way of life in thailand, courruption is accepted as part of life !!

lapamita Silver Member

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22 hours ago, MikeandDow said:

And you know this how !!!

that is common since decades , but you know it maybe you dreamed it

22 hours ago, Srikcir said:

"in the West"?

Not in US, Canada, UK, France, EU.

its born in USA .........and yyou have absolut no knowledge how many airlines in the west practice it incl ryanair and easyjet

lapamita Silver Member

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14 hours ago, unblocktheplanet said:

To name the airlines is not defamation, just making the public aware of an airline's practices, like baggage allowance.

the list would be to long... from vietjet, from ryanair to easyjet just to name some big one

MikeandDow Ruby Member

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7 minutes ago, lapamita said:

the list would be to long... from air asia to vietjet, from ryanair to easyjet just to name some big one

Without links or backup this is B/S another poster who does not understand the word FACTS !!

lapamita Silver Member

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7 minutes ago, MikeandDow said:

Without links or backup this is B/S another poster who does not understand the word FACTS !!

only for you and i was giving link to google already

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pay_to_fly

its known common for so long !!! and so many experts in intenret specally the people name other B/S

air asia is not incl i corrected it already but many other from vietjet to ryanair toeasyjet....shown in TV aand reports to many times over decades

MikeandDow Ruby Member

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5 minutes ago, lapamita said:

only for you and i was giving link to google already

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pay_to_fly

its known common for so long !!! and so many experts in intenret specally the people name other B/S

Well why did you not post this before this is a News forum and if you read the rules Facts and backup to substantiate your statements is part of your post thanks for the link it proves your point !

lapamita Silver Member

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8 minutes ago, MikeandDow said:

Well why did you not post this before this is a News forum and if you read the rules Facts and backup to substantiate your statements is part of your post thanks for the link it proves your point

i send first post a google .....but by the way i have 3 friends working for pegasus.yes expensive education , but the salary in this case is extra ordenary for turkey ( and all are very happy about the job even they payed a lot,and a job at TK was unreachable at this time,but after flying for pegasus their big dream can come reality working later for TK) --compare to other low cost like ryanair. there is not only black and white.

in many fields of education for your job you invest first and get dept loaded before you start to work , US again greats at first

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