1 hour ago, Baerboxer said:

 

Why is the rise of AfD "horrifying"?

 

They are not Nazis, fascists, as the left liberal press like to label anyone who isn't left wing or very very close to the center. 

 

Do you think the rise of the extreme left in some countries equally horrifying?

Did you even bother to read their manifest?

And please name a country where the "extreme left" is rising- extreme meaning: as extreme, as a party, that says "Germany should be proud of what its soldiers achieved in WW1 +2!"

 

7 hours ago, Baerboxer said:

 

Why is the rise of AfD "horrifying"?

 

They are not Nazis, fascists, as the left liberal press like to label anyone who isn't left wing or very very close to the center. 

 

Do you think the rise of the extreme left in some countries equally horrifying?

Yes

14 hours ago, Grouse said:

Well there's some rather facile posts here but this is what's important

 

1) Merkel retains power

 

2) The German electoral system always returns coalitions

 

3) With much uncertainty out of the way a Merkel / Macron axis (as it were) is re-energised 

 

4) Watch out for significant EU changes

 

5) The rose of AfD, however horrifying, is in my view a good thing. Will encourage reversal of the Islamic invasion to Germany in particular and EU in general.

 

6) EU outer ring of membership now probable and should provide everything the UK requires

 

Great stuff!

This is far too simplistic and nowhere broad enough Germany has many complex problems.

 

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/09/25/germany-angela-merkel-have-bigger-problems-far-right/

 

 

33 minutes ago, aright said:

This is far too simplistic and nowhere broad enough Germany has many complex problems.

 

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/09/25/germany-angela-merkel-have-bigger-problems-far-right/

 

 

It's a reasonable précis 

13 minutes ago, Grouse said:

It's a reasonable précis 

You and your bloody Swahili

The German Problem!

 

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2017/09/24/queen-angela-commands-german-economy-unfit-21st-century/

EU is doomed Brits are good to be done with it

 

Russians are licking thier chops  Germans have no army anymore. 

 

 

 

 

I had to laugh at a comment from a BBC reporter. A shock at the fall in Merkel's support. I'm not sure who was shocked though.

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Slowly, surely, step by step - the world is going to be all 'right'.  

The days of the loony lefties and socialist bureaucrats are coming to an end. 

 

If you dont think the western people dont live in a looney left wing world, then answer this question:

 

Are they teaching toddlers in our Govt schools how to shoot a gun?

Or are they teaching toddlers in our Govt schools about 'gender issues' ??

 

1 hour ago, ELVIS123456 said:

Slowly, surely, step by step - the world is going to be all 'right'.  

The days of the loony lefties and socialist bureaucrats are coming to an end. 

 

If you dont think the western people dont live in a looney left wing world, then answer this question:

 

Are they teaching toddlers in our Govt schools how to shoot a gun?

Or are they teaching toddlers in our Govt schools about 'gender issues' ??

 

Of the 2 options you provide, it's difficult to tell which is loonier.

Off-topic, inflammatory posts and replies removed.  

 

10 hours ago, mfd101 said:

Of the 2 options you provide, it's difficult to tell which is loonier.

Correct - one is loony far-right and one is loony far-left.

The point being that they are teaching one to toddlers.

And it aint the 'far-right' one.

 

http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2017/08/28/transgender-kids-book_a_23188219/

http://youreteachingourchildrenwhat.org/2017/09/parents-peru-ban-gender-madness-now-turn/

http://www.theblaze.com/news/2017/09/21/gender-neutral-teacher-divides-parents-after-requesting-fifth-graders-use-preferred-pronouns/

 

 

19 hours ago, ELVIS123456 said:

Slowly, surely, step by step - the world is going to be all 'right'.  

The days of the loony lefties and socialist bureaucrats are coming to an end. 

 

If you dont think the western people dont live in a looney left wing world, then answer this question:

 

Are they teaching toddlers in our Govt schools how to shoot a gun?

Or are they teaching toddlers in our Govt schools about 'gender issues' ??

 

While i do not think kids should be taught how to shoot guns ,the whole western world seems to be going to hell in a handbasket , i lived in London in the 60s and 70s ,,and was very "liberated" no problems at all with someones sexuality , men and women can dress in ruberware and stick candles up their bums if it turns them on , as long as two adults agree i dont care what they get up to ,IN THEIR OWN HOMES. i am sick of having gay marriage and adoption  and gay rights constantly being taught in schools and being told its normal and half the tv shows i watch have a same sex couple  in it .people who do this are a very small minority , but they seem to scream out the loudest . please shut up and just get on with your lives .  rant over .