Becker Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 (edited) 4 minutes ago, halloween said: Well he hasn't got a BIL to illegally appoint as CoP. No, he has done one better - he has illegally appointed himself as junta chief and self styled PM! You walked right into that one. Edited September 28, 2017 by Becker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halloween Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 2 minutes ago, Becker said: In direct opposition to what facts? Try to understand, the right to ask question is obtained by answers to question asked. You routinely don't answer mine because they are uncomfortable for you, but feel you have the right to keep asking, usually in an attempt to divert the topic.. The facts revealed that Yingluk was assisted by corrupt police. again, what part does the junta play in that scenario? Oh that's right, they should reform the RTP or they are incompetent or stupid. Which doesn't answer the question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halloween Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 4 minutes ago, Becker said: No, he has done one better - he has illegally appointed himself as junta chief and self styled PM! You walked right into that one. Walked into what. It was a contrast between 2 governments attempts to 'reform' the RTP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Becker Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 1 hour ago, halloween said: Walked into what. It was a contrast between 2 governments attempts to 'reform' the RTP. How can there be a contrast when there has been no reform done by neither legally elected governments nor illegal juntas? Hope the egg on your face doesn't hurt your feelings too much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Becker Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 1 hour ago, halloween said: Try to understand, the right to ask question is obtained by answers to question asked. Try to understand that you don't give me the right to do anything. I know you would like to though, as is evident from your manic support of totalitarian regimes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LannaGuy Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 On 9/28/2017 at 9:04 AM, halloween said: You think. And how many Thai baht would it take to persuade Thai police to look the other way? How does a government ensure the police assigned to a job don't have political allegiance or are immune to large bribes, or will follow orders from a corrupt superior influenced by both? former prime minister Yingluck Shinawatra is in Dubai and has promised not to be involved in any political activities, Deputy Prime Minister Prawit Wongsuwan said on Thursday Well 'surprise, surprise' all part of 'the deal' no doubt and after a nice little 'chat' - how else would he know? still contest your Junta did not know? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LannaGuy Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 (edited) 2 hours ago, halloween said: You think. And how many Thai baht would it take to persuade Thai police to look the other way? How does a government ensure the police assigned to a job don't have political allegiance or are immune to large bribes, or will follow orders from a corrupt superior influenced by both? double post due to slow loading - apologies please delete Edited September 28, 2017 by LannaGuy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjaak327 Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 3 hours ago, rixalex said: You start by saying that they are only fugitives because they didn't grant themselves amnesty, but then go on to admit in your "they are criminals too" comment, that they are indeed criminals. It would therefore be a lot more accurate to say, not that they are only fugitives because they did not grant themselves amnesty, but that they are fugitives because they committed crime and were unable to grant themselves amnesty. The point I am trying to make is, some criminals don't have to run because they have granted themselves amnesty. Evidently that refers to Prayuth and his buddies. Justice should be equal to all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halloween Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 36 minutes ago, LannaGuy said: former prime minister Yingluck Shinawatra is in Dubai and has promised not to be involved in any political activities, Deputy Prime Minister Prawit Wongsuwan said on Thursday Well 'surprise, surprise' all part of 'the deal' no doubt and after a nice little 'chat' - how else would he know? still contest your Junta did not know? You really do have a problem with logic, don't you? Her promise not to be involved in Thai politics is a requirement of Dubai to allow her residence. How you construe that to connect to her alleged assisted escape is bizarre. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LannaGuy Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 12 minutes ago, halloween said: You really do have a problem with logic, don't you? Her promise not to be involved in Thai politics is a requirement of Dubai to allow her residence. How you construe that to connect to her alleged assisted escape is bizarre. Your deputy PM said it - got it now? I think it's obvious that he has spoken to her and that is LOGICAL because he said so "she has promised" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
binjalin Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 38 minutes ago, LannaGuy said: Your deputy PM said it - got it now? I think it's obvious that he has spoken to her and that is LOGICAL because he said so "she has promised" It may be that Dubai has promised rather than her personally but, either way, we may never know of Prawit's involvement or lack of it but the Junta lovers will deny they did because it suits their nefarious agenda so it's pointless banging your head too much. Wait for the next generation as this one has no hope left barring a miracle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjaak327 Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 49 minutes ago, halloween said: You really do have a problem with logic, don't you? Her promise not to be involved in Thai politics is a requirement of Dubai to allow her residence. How you construe that to connect to her alleged assisted escape is bizarre. Oh please, Dubai probably does not care one bit. It has never requested big brother to do the same. Since you brought up the term logic, we are talking about an ex PM that was due to hear a verdict in what could easily be described as the trial of the decade, and she just packs up and leaves two days before. Since then, the regime has uttered a few statements that quite clearly contradicted each other, in one statement the right hand claimed to not have any information of her whereabouts or how she left the country, and on the same day the left hand claimed Thaksin financed and arranged her escape. Two days ago Prayuth suddenly claims he knows her location, stating just yesterday how she was abroad, now Prawit suddenly claims she is in Dubai and has promised not to be involved in politics. whom she promised I wonder, the right or the left hand. She had no reason to make that promise to UAE that much is certain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halloween Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 1 hour ago, LannaGuy said: Your deputy PM said it - got it now? I think it's obvious that he has spoken to her and that is LOGICAL because he said so "she has promised" You think it is obvious, well that makes it true. OTOH Dubai, an otherwise friendly country, may have had the courtesy of informing the Thai government that a controversial citizen has been granted amnesty/residence, and would have stated exactly what was released. But no, you would rather let your fantasies be reality. BTW why do you think she has been silent? Waiting for permission to stat to be granted perhaps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LannaGuy Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 3 minutes ago, halloween said: You think it is obvious, well that makes it true. OTOH Dubai, an otherwise friendly country, may have had the courtesy of informing the Thai government that a controversial citizen has been granted amnesty/residence, and would have stated exactly what was released. But no, you would rather let your fantasies be reality. BTW why do you think she has been silent? Waiting for permission to stat to be granted perhaps. all 'perhaps'es' huh? I think she was silent waiting for the verdict but you don't know and I don't know so how about you stop guessing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halloween Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 Just now, LannaGuy said: all 'perhaps'es' huh? I think she was silent waiting for the verdict but you don't know and I don't know so how about you stop guessing? How about I stop guessing when you continually make assumptions based on nothing? Do you evidence of any conversation between the government of Yingluk? which is the more likely, my explanation or yours? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baboon Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 19 minutes ago, halloween said: You think it is obvious, well that makes it true. OTOH Dubai, an otherwise friendly country, may have had the courtesy of informing the Thai government that a controversial citizen has been granted amnesty/residence, and would have stated exactly what was released. But no, you would rather let your fantasies be reality. BTW why do you think she has been silent? Waiting for permission to stat to be granted perhaps. It isn't even known she is in Dubai. It isn't known that she has even applied for a residency permit, let alone been granted one, nor is it known under what conditions residency / asylum would be granted. It isn't known that the UAE government have had any contact with the Thai junta regarding Yingluck, yet you are accusing LannaGuy of being a fantasist when it is as plain as the cut out nose on your face that you are simply making stuff up as you go along? Dear oh dear... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
binjalin Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 39 minutes ago, halloween said: How about I stop guessing when you continually make assumptions based on nothing? Do you evidence of any conversation between the government of Yingluk? which is the more likely, my explanation or yours? Prawit said "she has promised" so I think, for one, that it is a fair assumption. I'm aghast you are so defensive of these guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halloween Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 46 minutes ago, baboon said: It isn't even known she is in Dubai. It isn't known that she has even applied for a residency permit, let alone been granted one, nor is it known under what conditions residency / asylum would be granted. It isn't known that the UAE government have had any contact with the Thai junta regarding Yingluck, yet you are accusing LannaGuy of being a fantasist when it is as plain as the cut out nose on your face that you are simply making stuff up as you go along? Dear oh dear... "Fugitive former prime minister Yingluck Shinawatra is in Dubai and has promised not to be involved in any political activities, Deputy Prime Minister Prawit Wongsuwan said on Thursday. Authorities in Dubai have also promised the Thai Foreign Ministry that they would keep an eye on Yingluck and ensure she did not take part in any political campaigns, Prawit said." Read it - does that say that he spoken to Yingluk or Dubai authorities? And now it is claimed she has been in London for over 2 weeks. Perhaps she didn't know where she was. Even if Prawit has spoken to her, and I don't concede he has, how does that lead to the conclusion she had junta assistance made by LG? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halloween Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 34 minutes ago, binjalin said: Prawit said "she has promised" so I think, for one, that it is a fair assumption. I'm aghast you are so defensive of these guys. I make a logical conclusion from the statement made, with evidence to back it, but you think the opposite is a "fair assumption"? Based on what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baboon Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 48 minutes ago, halloween said: "Fugitive former prime minister Yingluck Shinawatra is in Dubai and has promised not to be involved in any political activities, Deputy Prime Minister Prawit Wongsuwan said on Thursday. Authorities in Dubai have also promised the Thai Foreign Ministry that they would keep an eye on Yingluck and ensure she did not take part in any political campaigns, Prawit said." Read it - does that say that he spoken to Yingluk or Dubai authorities? And now it is claimed she has been in London for over 2 weeks. Perhaps she didn't know where she was. Even if Prawit has spoken to her, and I don't concede he has, how does that lead to the conclusion she had junta assistance made by LG? It doesn't say he has spoken to either. It says that he says and we know how creative he is with the truth - well most of us, that is... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halloween Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 1 minute ago, baboon said: It doesn't say he has spoken to either. It says that he says and we know how creative he is with the truth - well most of us, that is... Oh really? How did the authorities in Dubai promise something without communication? That she was in Dubai, had promised not to be involved in politics, and that Dubai would watch her can be contained in that simple conversation. But I'm having fantasies, while your claim has absolutely no credibility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baboon Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 1 minute ago, halloween said: Oh really? How did the authorities in Dubai promise something without communication? That she was in Dubai, had promised not to be involved in politics, and that Dubai would watch her can be contained in that simple conversation. But I'm having fantasies, while your claim has absolutely no credibility. Who says they did? Just one man who is well known to be creative with the truth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halloween Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 9 minutes ago, baboon said: Who says they did? Just one man who is well known to be creative with the truth. I count at least 3, you LG and Binjalin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baboon Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 6 minutes ago, halloween said: I count at least 3, you LG and Binjalin. We are saying that the junta has been in communication with the UAE authorities regarding Yingluck? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxLee Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 I'm tired of this puppet theatre Lakorn drama Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjaak327 Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 (edited) 10 hours ago, halloween said: How about I stop guessing when you continually make assumptions based on nothing? Do you evidence of any conversation between the government of Yingluk? which is the more likely, my explanation or yours? To be honest, if your explanation is more likely, it confirms the regime are utterly incompetent. If the other explanation is more likely, it shows they are still utterly incompetent. All they needed to do is settle with a suspended sentence AND the life year ban from politics, and they wouldn't have a matyr on their hands. But as always the regime <deleted> it up royally. Edited September 28, 2017 by sjaak327 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
binjalin Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 On 9/28/2017 at 3:52 PM, baboon said: Who says they did? Just one man who is well known to be creative with the truth. She's nowhere near Dubai actually so Halloween's puppet master got it wrong again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halloween Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 43 minutes ago, binjalin said: She's nowhere near Dubai actually so Halloween's puppet master got it wrong again. One Dubai source has stated this, followed by a PTP statement possibly quoting the same source. Are you forgetting that earlier in this thread the claims were that the Junta are in contact with her (due to a misreading of the OP) and that is proof they helped her exit? How wrong can your red sycophants be? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjaak327 Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 15 minutes ago, halloween said: One Dubai source has stated this, followed by a PTP statement possibly quoting the same source. Are you forgetting that earlier in this thread the claims were that the Junta are in contact with her (due to a misreading of the OP) and that is proof they helped her exit? How wrong can your red sycophants be? And one Junta source says she is in Dubai, now whom to believe. Not that it matters, she is somewhere where they can't get to her. And contrary to your belief, that is precisely where they want her to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LannaGuy Posted September 30, 2017 Share Posted September 30, 2017 (edited) 10 hours ago, halloween said: One Dubai source has stated this, followed by a PTP statement possibly quoting the same source. Are you forgetting that earlier in this thread the claims were that the Junta are in contact with her (due to a misreading of the OP) and that is proof they helped her exit? How wrong can your red sycophants be? Again, if they didn't help with her exit they must be...? INCOMPETENT which is it? and her flying to London after Dubai has NO relevance on where the Junta 'knew' or were just 'stupid'. Your dedication to the Junta proves that there really is 'love' in the world and I'm just an old cynic lol Edited September 30, 2017 by LannaGuy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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