Women claim Harvey Weinstein sexually assaulted them - report

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Women claim Harvey Weinstein sexually assaulted them - report

 

FILE PHOTO: Film producer Harvey Weinstein attends the 2016 amfAR New York Gala at Cipriani Wall Street in Manhattan, New York February 10, 2016. REUTERS/Andrew Kelly/File Photo

 

NEW YORK (Reuters) - The New Yorker reported on Tuesday that 13 women have claimed that movie producer Harvey Weinstein sexually harassed or assaulted them, including three who told the magazine they had been raped.

 

Weinstein's spokeswoman Sallie Hofmeister was quoted in the article saying, "Any allegations of non-consensual sex are unequivocally denied by Mr. Weinstein."

 

Weinstein and the women for whom contact information was available did not reply to Reuters requests for comment. Reuters was unable to independently confirm any of the claims.

 

"Mr. Weinstein obviously can’t speak to anonymous allegations, but with respect to any women who have made allegations on the record, Mr. Weinstein believes that all of these relationships were consensual," Hofmeister was quoted as saying.

 

Weinstein's wife of 10 years, Marchesa label fashion designer Georgina Chapman, said late on Tuesday that she was leaving him, according to a report in People magazine.

 

"My heart breaks for all the women who have suffered tremendous pain because of these unforgivable actions. I have chosen to leave my husband," Chapman was quoted as saying.

 

Her representatives did not respond to a request for comment.

 

The New York City Police Department and Manhattan District Attorney's office said in separate statements on Tuesday that Weinstein was investigated in 2015 over an allegation that he sexually abused one of the women, who was named in the article. The district attorney's office said there was insufficient evidence to charge him.

 

Separately, the New York Times reported on Tuesday that actress Gwyneth Paltrow said she was sexually harassed by Weinstein more than 20 years ago and that Angelina Jolie said she "had a bad experience with Harvey Weinstein in my youth and as a result chose never to work with him again."

 

Jolie and Paltrow did not reply to requests for comment.

 

The New Yorker reported that Italian actress Ambra Battilana Gutierrez went to police in 2015 claiming that Weinstein had sexually assaulted her.

 

She was asked by police to arrange another meeting with Weinstein during which she would wear a recording device, the New Yorker reported.

 

Manhattan Chief Assistant District Attorney Karen Friedman- Agnifilo said on Tuesday, referring to the wire, "While the recording is horrifying to listen to, what emerged from the audio was insufficient to prove a crime under New York law."

 

Actress Gutierrez could not be reached for comment.

 

The New York Times published an article last week in which it was alleged that Weinstein had sexually harassed several women over 30 years. After a statement in which Weinstein apologised for his behaviour, his attorney Charles J. Harder said the newspaper's story was defamatory because it relied on “mostly hearsay accounts and a faulty report.”

 

Weinstein, one of the most powerful men in Hollywood who produced and distributed movies like "Shakespeare in Love" and "Chicago," was fired over the weekend from his job as co-chairman of The Weinstein Company.

 

The Democratic National Committee and several Democratic politicians who received political contributions from Weinstein said they would reroute the money to women's rights groups.

 

On Tuesday, former Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton said she was "shocked and appalled" at the reports about Weinstein. She did not mention any contribution but said "the behaviour described ... cannot be tolerated."

 

(Reporting by Jill Serjeant and Karen Freifeld; Editing by Toni Reinhold)

 

-- © Copyright Reuters 2017-10-11

[Kiwiken]

How power seems to corrupt

[Scott]

Troll posts removed.   Continue and face a suspension.  

[MaeJoMTB]

I enjoyed "Shakespeare in Love"

 

But as an English Catholic Caucasian male, I accept no 'shared responsibility' for any alleged crimes committed by males of other races, religions or nationalities.

Edited October 20, 2017 by MaeJoMTB

[amvet]

I have a friend who makes ski movies.  Not big Hollywood stuff but he's pretty well known in the ski business.  I used to work for him.  We were in a bar in Denver one night and the word got around that we were shooting a movie the next day at a close by ski resort.  Somehow the cocktail waitresses in the bar got the idea I was the casting director.  You can figure the rest out.  My point is how in the heck did that man have to force anyone to do anything?  The girls held me down and did me until I guaranteed them a bit part in a frigging ski movie. 

 

I don't want to cast any aspersions on anyone and Harvey is not quite as handsome as I am but gee.  Since when does the most important man in Hollywood not get free sex? 

[ilostmypassword]

2 hours ago, amvet said:

I have a friend who makes ski movies.  Not big Hollywood stuff but he's pretty well known in the ski business.  I used to work for him.  We were in a bar in Denver one night and the word got around that we were shooting a movie the next day at a close by ski resort.  Somehow the cocktail waitresses in the bar got the idea I was the casting director.  You can figure the rest out.  My point is how in the heck did that man have to force anyone to do anything?  The girls held me down and did me until I guaranteed them a bit part in a frigging ski movie. 

 

I don't want to cast any aspersions on anyone and Harvey is not quite as handsome as I am but gee.  Since when does the most important man in Hollywood not get free sex? 

So because he could get it for free, that proves he didn't commit assault? Or means it's unlikely? I'm guessing you're a Bill O'Reilly defender.

[JHolmesJr]

2 hours ago, amvet said:

Since when does the most important man in Hollywood not get free sex? 

 

you are dead right....now that he piranha have smelt blood every woman and her cat will be claiming he raped them...whats to stop them...fortunately these things require proof. Im sure Harvey is a creep...he could have avoided all this by keeping a stable of brazilian hookers....they are best in class.

 

Some guys really do think with their di%$#

[amvet]

34 minutes ago, ilostmypassword said:

So because he could get it for free, that proves he didn't commit assault? Or means it's unlikely? I'm guessing you're a Bill O'Reilly defender.

No he did it or something like that.  There is a tape of him making an ass of himself with some model type from Italy.  The guy is a jerk.  Anyone who associated with him is a jerk.  Anyone who worked with him is a jerk.  I'm just saying he's an idiot with all that free stuff around throwing themselves at you why on earth would you try and force someone?  He and all his cronies even still have protection as I'm sure many feel threatened to even talk about people who do the same things and are part of the protected elite.

 

It's time people who protect creeps like that have a hard look at themselves and ask is the greater good really greater and women who take advantage of their sex to advance or get candy also be outed for violation of the new female code of conduct. 

Edited October 20, 2017 by amvet

[Scott]

8 hours ago, ilostmypassword said:

So because he could get it for free, that proves he didn't commit assault? Or means it's unlikely? I'm guessing you're a Bill O'Reilly defender.

Those that can get it for free, but instead use force, intimidation and power over vulnerable people are predators.  

 

Charlie Sheen is a good example.   He could, and probably did get a lot for free, but he sometimes choose to pay expensive escorts to have things the way he wanted....and for them to leave when he wanted and to keep reasonably quiet about the encounters.

 

 

[Thakkar]

For once in my life I would love to see a disgusting man taken down at the peak of his power. I’m not sure if I can even name a single time that has happened. Bill Cosby? Nope, didn’t get brought down ‘til he was almost blind and 60 women had accused him of sexual assault. Roger Ailes was falling out of favor with the Murdoch sons when he resigned (with $40 million payout) after allegations from six women; same for Bill O’Reilly (although he only got $25 million). Clarence Thomas, who bragged to his staff about watching bestiality porn, is still a Supreme Court justice (shoutout to Joe Bidenhere). Eliot Spitzer was taken down at his peak, but he was paying women to have sex with him instead of paying women off after he tried to have sex with them (not to split hairs but the distinction matters). Bill Clinton, horndog-in-chief, is now a lovable old vegan who spends his days chasing after big red balloons. Donald Trump, whom at least 16 women accused of sexual misconduct last year, is now the president. Heh.

 

https://theoutline.com/post/2378/harvey-weinstein-no-justice-for-bad-men

[boomerangutang]

Women are coerced, yes, but have to take at least some responsibility for their actions.  Women make a lot of dumb-ass decisions re; who to have sex with.  Sometimes they get STD's, sometimes unwanted pregnancies.   It happens with men also.  We're an impressionable, vulnerable, and often stupid species.  

 

I think it was Bette Davis, who said of Joan Crawford, "She slept with every alpha male at 20th Century Fox, except Lassie."

[Thakkar]

It isn’t just about sex. These powerful men want to assert their dominance. They want what they want, not just what’s offered. They especially want what’s not offered. Hence, assault and harassment—followed by threats and/or payouts.

[boomerangutang]

Just now, Thakkar said:

It isn’t just about sex. These powerful men want to assert their dominance. They want what they want, not just what’s offered. They especially want what’s not offered. Hence, assault and harassment—followed by threats and/or payouts.

It is also about sex.  Sex feels good, particularly with a new young body.  No matter (to them) if the gal is disgusted or is resisting - for a lot of guys, that's added turn-on.   

[CaptHaddock]

8 minutes ago, Thakkar said:

It isn’t just about sex. These powerful men want to assert their dominance. They want what they want, not just what’s offered. They especially want what’s not offered. Hence, assault and harassment—followed by threats and/or payouts.

Exactly.  Weinstein could have all the freebies he wanted, but that's only a mild display of power.  He has to take what is refused and then get away with it.  Now that's real power.

[CaptHaddock]

19 minutes ago, boomerangutang said:

Women are coerced, yes, but have to take at least some responsibility for their actions.  Women make a lot of dumb-ass decisions re; who to have sex with.  Sometimes they get STD's, sometimes unwanted pregnancies.   It happens with men also.  We're an impressionable, vulnerable, and often stupid species.  

 

I think it was Bette Davis, who said of Joan Crawford, "She slept with every alpha male at 20th Century Fox, except Lassie."

We are not talking about women who sleep their way to the top.  We are talking about those who refused to.  Big difference.  If it were a lone woman who subsequently changed her mind about what was going on, maybe you could give Harvey the benefit of the doubt, but given the numbers of women accusers, that seems a stretch too far.

 

I think Weinstein could go to prison, which, if the accusations are true, he would richly deserve. 

[amvet]

2 hours ago, Thakkar said:

It isn’t just about sex. These powerful men want to assert their dominance. They want what they want, not just what’s offered. They especially want what’s not offered. Hence, assault and harassment—followed by threats and/or payouts.

http://video.newyorker.com/watch/harvey-weinstein-caught-on-tape

 

Listen to the tape the guy does not strike me as dominant just weird.  When I was a teen I had  a couple famous gay guys try and come on to me (I wonder if anyone will post and still and try to shut me up about it?).  I guess I really missed a big payday. (Quotes from abusive authors) "hedonistic riot fringed with sexy boys" " I love boys too—everybody does, who has a little humanity."  Which brings me to my point should they go to jail or just pay off.  How much do you get for flashing in the shower?  $800,000 seems a nice round number. 

 

What should society do?  Harvey is getting stripped of all his awards should we do the same with Tennessee Williams and Allen Ginsberg?  I'm sure we all could list a couple dozen more.  Harvey is starting to seem rather mild when compared to Ginsberg, Burroughs and Williams to name 3 Hollywood writer types that sexually abused people and everybody knew about it but nothing much was written at the time.  But don't believe me google it.

Edited October 21, 2017 by amvet

[Thakkar]

The tendency to blame women for men’s transgressions is nothing new, nor is the inclination to shift blame from the perpetrators of sexual assault to the victims of it. Many of the responses to other recent sexual assault scandals, like those involving Bill Cosby and President Donald Trump, mirror what we’ve seen over the past weeks in response to the allegations against Weinstein. And like we saw with those scandals, the tendency to blame victims of sexual assault and excuse or justify the behavior of the perpetrator is not limited to men. In fact, some of the most intense and vitriolic victim-blaming responses came from those most likely to be victimized themselves: women.

At first glance, this seems entirely counterintuitive. Why would women attack other women who are victims of sexual violence, a crime that overwhelmingly affects women? Conventional wisdom tells us that women, more than anyone, should understand the consequences of victim-blaming behavior and categorically reject it. 

But the reality is far more nuanced. In fact, women’s vulnerability to sexual violence is, in many instances, the very reason they engage in victim-blaming behavior.

 

http://www.playboy.com/articles/victim-blaming-by-women-in-america

[boomerangutang]

8 hours ago, amvet said:

What should society do?  Harvey is getting stripped of all his awards should we do the same with Tennessee Williams and Allen Ginsberg?  I'm sure we all could list a couple dozen more.  Harvey is starting to seem rather mild when compared to Ginsberg, Burroughs and Williams to name 3 Hollywood writer types that sexually abused people and everybody knew about it but nothing much was written at the time.  But don't believe me google it.

Some of us are hoping for a sea-change.  Young women should be apprised of their rights; what's legal and what's transgression.  Women should then be brave enough to speak to authorities if/when they're being violated.  That's a big step.  Women should be empowered to say no, and stick with 'no' when they're being coerced.   

[Thakkar]

7 minutes ago, boomerangutang said:

Some of us are hoping for a sea-change.  Young women should be apprised of their rights; what's legal and what's transgression.  Women should then be brave enough to speak to authorities if/when they're being violated.  That's a big step.  Women should be empowered to say no, and stick with 'no' when they're being coerced.   

 

How about all of us—men, women, police departments, corporate HR—take the victims seriously when they make accusations of harassment and begin investigations in good faith and without prejudging the victims’ veracity, motives, how they dress or whether they’d had a drink?

 

That would be a start.

[amvet]

11 hours ago, Thakkar said:

 

How about all of us—men, women, police departments, corporate HR—take the victims seriously when they make accusations of harassment and begin investigations in good faith and without prejudging the victims’ veracity, motives, how they dress or whether they’d had a drink?

 

That would be a start.

Bill O'Reilly paid 32 million.  I was really born at the wrong time.  I could have cleaned up.  I wonder how many women are thinking that right now?

[Chris Lawrence]

He assaulted me. Some of his movies violated my senses, with my morals compromised. Dirty man.

 

Why didn't people intervene? After the second payment to cover up his brother should have said "Harvey you need help, the next one will go to court". Shame on people believing this was the standard to get a job. A depraved person like this would more then likely turn his attention to males?

[theguyfromanotherforum]

Hahaha....there's a pretty funny report about him in the Sun from his chauffeur in Cannes. Known as "Le Porc" with a stash of condoms and Viagra on the ready in his car.

 

Look, the guy was obviously on a power trip. It's obvious so many people on his payroll didn't want to say anything. You wouldn't either for money. I am sure of this.

[Ron19]

An off topic post and answer to it have been removed.

[amvet]

1 hour ago, Chris Lawrence said:

He assaulted me. Some of his movies violated my senses, with my morals compromised. Dirty man.

 

Why didn't people intervene? After the second payment to cover up his brother should have said "Harvey you need help, the next one will go to court". Shame on people believing this was the standard to get a job. A depraved person like this would more then likely turn his attention to males?

Are you saying that homosexual people are depraved? 

[amvet]

1 hour ago, theguyfromanotherforum said:

Hahaha....there's a pretty funny report about him in the Sun from his chauffeur in Cannes. Known as "Le Porc" with a stash of condoms and Viagra on the ready in his car.

 

Look, the guy was obviously on a power trip. It's obvious so many people on his payroll didn't want to say anything. You wouldn't either for money. I am sure of this.

I take condoms and viagra to go grocery store shopping.  All that means that I know of is I live in Thailand I'm certainly not on a power trip. 

[MaeJoMTB]

1 hour ago, amvet said:

I take condoms and viagra to go grocery store shopping.  All that means that I know of is I live in Thailand I'm certainly not on a power trip. 

Me too!

(Not the condoms, I never use condoms)

[ilostmypassword]

6 hours ago, amvet said:

Bill O'Reilly paid 32 million.  I was really born at the wrong time.  I could have cleaned up.  I wonder how many women are thinking that right now?

Only if you were willing to be dirtied up first by O'Reilly.

[amvet]

8 minutes ago, ilostmypassword said:

Only if you were willing to be dirtied up first by O'Reilly.

I can take a lot of dirt for 32 million.  Don't forget I went to Catholic schools.

[Credo]

From a more practical point of view, Harvey's biggest problem is that he chose a group of people which are hard to pay off.   Hollywood isn't cheap, so unlike O'Reilly, he couldn't wave some money around and wiggle out of things.   

 

 

[amvet]

27 minutes ago, Credo said:

From a more practical point of view, Harvey's biggest problem is that he chose a group of people which are hard to pay off.   Hollywood isn't cheap, so unlike O'Reilly, he couldn't wave some money around and wiggle out of things.  

O'Reilly harassed  an adjunct professor of law at New York Law School, and an associate professor at University of Washington Law School.

 

Talk about incredibly stupid.  Who would be the very last person in the world you would want to sexually harass?  An aggressive female lawyer.  There are a lot of dumb rich actresses very few if any dumb law professors at New York Law School.