craigt3365 Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 11 minutes ago, punchjudy said: I assure you CNN is viewed as just more heavily biased US crap........at least try to be subtle about it like the BBC. The people who believe CNN is "heavily biased US crap" tend to love alternate news websites like Russia Today, Infowars, Zerohedge, Fox, etc. LOL. CNN, like BBC, does a pretty good job at vetting their news. Other sites? Not so much... What's your favorite news source? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lannarebirth Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, craigt3365 said: The people who believe CNN is "heavily biased US crap" tend to love alternate news websites like Russia Today, Infowars, Zerohedge, Fox, etc. LOL. CNN, like BBC, does a pretty good job at vetting their news. Other sites? Not so much... What's your favorite news source? Of course CNN is biased. There bias is pro globalisation, anti sovereignty. They are a part of a huge global media conglomerate that is currently seeking to become a more huge global conglomerate that seeks to squeeze out independent media. Their advertisers are a Who's Who of pro globalisation corporations. Edited November 15, 2017 by lannarebirth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigt3365 Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 1 minute ago, lannarebirth said: Of course CNN is biased. There bias is pro globalisation, anti sovereignty. They are a part of a huge global media conglomerate that is currently seeking to become a more huge global conglomerate that seeks to squeeze out independant media. Their advertisers are a Who's Who of pro globalisation corporations. I just watched their coverage of the earthquake in Iran. Didn't see any bias there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lannarebirth Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 2 minutes ago, craigt3365 said: I just watched their coverage of the earthquake in Iran. Didn't see any bias there. How would bias manifest in a story about an earhquake? It happened/ It didn't happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FritsSikkink Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 On 14/11/2017 at 8:32 AM, craigt3365 said: Easier to just ban this fake news outlet. Yes, why should you bother with freedom of speech. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigt3365 Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 1 hour ago, lannarebirth said: How would bias manifest in a story about an earhquake? It happened/ It didn't happen. My point exactly. When reporting just news, it's hard to have a bias. CNN reports lots of news. No bias. As I've said many times, I avoid opinion pieces and panels with "experts". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigt3365 Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 53 minutes ago, FritsSikkink said: Yes, why should you bother with freedom of speech. You don't know much about freedom of speech in the US. Many things are not allowed. Luckily. https://civil-rights.lawyers.com/civil-liberties/its-ok-to-speak-your-mind-but-dont-hurt-anyone.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lannarebirth Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 1 minute ago, craigt3365 said: My point exactly. When reporting just news, it's hard to have a bias. CNN reports lots of news. No bias. As I've said many times, I avoid opinion pieces and panels with "experts". I agree it is difficult to have a bias about an act of God. Oh, maybe a global warming angle, or caused by fracking or whatever that super secret earthquake making tech some think the military has. Anyway, it's all a stretch. It is the acts of men that could use more critical askance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Becker Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 3 hours ago, punchjudy said: I assure you CNN is viewed as just more heavily biased US crap........at least try to be subtle about it like the BBC. "Is viewed" by whom? If you're gonna defend Putin the dictator you should at least try to be subtle about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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impulse Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 19 hours ago, Becker said: 20 hours ago, speckio said: interesting enough I watched RT often in the past and for the most part, it seemed fairly unbiased and threw punches towards both the left and right. Occasionally the reporting would lean a little to the right.... I trust RT news way more than CNN, Fox and other Amercian news outlets. I hope for your sake you're Russian or there is something seriously wrong with you. Why? I'm a Texas redneck and I watch RT, AlJazeera, Reuters, BBC, China Daily, CNN and others. They all have their biases. Watch enough and you actually get a balanced look at most issues, though not from any one outlet. Still can't bring myself to watch Fox any more, though. They don't even pretend to be a news outlet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lannarebirth Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 13 hours ago, Trouble said: So it THIS what the intelligence agencies have come up with to determine that the Russians meddled in the elections? My god, Twitter, Facebook, and RT (all out in the open), isn't what one would consider clandestine interference in elections. What the hell has Voice of America been doing for the last 50 years? Maybe Fox News, MSNBC, CNN broadcast in foreign countries, are all propaganda organs for the US government. Surely should register with the foreign governments where they broadcast. While I don't watch much RT, I certainly don't see them as influencing much. Interesting sometimes to see a different slant on things. Certainly one can get more international news off RT, China News, Japan News, than on FOX, CNN, and MSNBC broadcast in the USA. The only thing one gets from the big three in the US is commentary on what they consider the trending top 5 stories of the day, 24 hours a day. It's NOT news. Sadly it seems like good old news doesn't sell anymore. Propaganda is as much about what never gets reported as what does get reported. https://www.forbes.com/sites/frankminiter/2017/11/13/congress-it-scandal-is-being-kept-behind-closed-doors/#2d8386303fc7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigt3365 Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 16 minutes ago, impulse said: Why? I'm a Texas redneck and I watch RT, AlJazeera, Reuters, BBC, China Daily, CNN and others. They all have their biases. Watch enough and you actually get a balanced look at most issues, though not from any one outlet. Still can't bring myself to watch Fox any more, though. They don't even pretend to be a news outlet. I watched RT for some time, but lately, it's just show after show going after the "West". Gets old. As for Fox? It's a horrible news outlet. I guess their "pure" reporting of news is OK. But the other stuff they do is bizarre. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Becker Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 (edited) 19 minutes ago, impulse said: Why? I'm a Texas redneck and I watch RT, AlJazeera, Reuters, BBC, China Daily, CNN and others. They all have their biases. Watch enough and you actually get a balanced look at most issues, though not from any one outlet. Still can't bring myself to watch Fox any more, though. They don't even pretend to be a news outlet. No, but RT does and claiming it' not a mouthpiece for Putin is disingenuous to say the least. Edited November 15, 2017 by Becker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
impulse Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 8 minutes ago, craigt3365 said: I watched RT for some time, but lately, it's just show after show going after the "West". Gets old. As for Fox? It's a horrible news outlet. I guess their "pure" reporting of news is OK. But the other stuff they do is bizarre. What I despise about Fox is that they don't bother to actually investigate anything. They figured out it's cheaper to put a few angry white guys (and gals) on a panel, open a discussion on a hot topic, and pander to their viewers. Sadly, they get just as many viewers and the ad revenue that comes with them. Just to compete, the other guys seem to have engaged them in a race to the bottom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
impulse Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 14 minutes ago, Becker said: No, but RT does and claiming it' not a mouthpiece for Putin is disingenuous to say the least. They're no more a Putin mouthpiece than the others are mouthpieces for the rich white guys that own and run them. And their predatory capitalism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebike Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 7 hours ago, craigt3365 said: It's a great development. Keeps fake news and propaganda off the airwaves from hostile foreign countries. Great move. Don't think it will have much effect whatsoever. Unless they obliterate net neutrality anything and everything is available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebike Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 5 hours ago, craigt3365 said: The people who believe CNN is "heavily biased US crap" tend to love alternate news websites like Russia Today, Infowars, Zerohedge, Fox, etc. LOL. CNN, like BBC, does a pretty good job at vetting their news. Other sites? Not so much... What's your favorite news source? MY favourite news source is - all of them - then apply critical thinking. Zerohedge and Infowars are in a league of their own!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
55Jay Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 5 hours ago, craigt3365 said: The people who believe CNN is "heavily biased US crap" tend to love alternate news websites like Russia Today, Infowars, Zerohedge, Fox, etc. LOL. CNN, like BBC, does a pretty good job at vetting their news. Other sites? Not so much... What's your favorite news source? ThaiVisa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Becker Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 26 minutes ago, impulse said: They're no more a Putin mouthpiece than the others are mouthpieces for the rich white guys that own and run them. And their predatory capitalism. Yes, they are - way more. Equating the mouthpiece of a dictator to the main news networks of the west is just ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigt3365 Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 14 minutes ago, Becker said: Yes, they are - way more. Equating the mouthpiece of a dictator to the main news networks of the west is just ridiculous. And yet many here do just that. Ridiculous for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
punchjudy Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 43 minutes ago, Becker said: Yes, they are - way more. Equating the mouthpiece of a dictator to the main news networks of the west is just ridiculous. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_presidential_election,_2012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigt3365 Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 14 minutes ago, punchjudy said: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_presidential_election,_2012 Right. Any opposition to Putin is either killed or scared away! LOL http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/real-life/news-life/heres-a-list-of-all-the-putin-critics-who-wound-up-murdered/news-story/4e2952b107b0c7159887e303062c9694 From your link. Amazing you don't already know this. Stunning actually. Quote International observers from the Organization for Security and Co-operation in Europe (OSCE) found that although all competitors had access to the media, Putin was given clear prominence.[7] Strict candidate registration requirements also limited "genuine competition".[7] According to Tonino Picula, the Special Co-ordinator to lead the short-term OSCE observer mission, “There were serious problems from the very start of this election. The point of elections is that the outcome should be uncertain. This was not the case in Russia. There was no real competition and abuse of government resources ensured that the ultimate winner of the election was never in doubt.”[7] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuaBS Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 4 hours ago, lannarebirth said: I agree it is difficult to have a bias about an act of God. Oh, maybe a global warming angle, or caused by fracking or whatever that super secret earthquake making tech some think the military has. Anyway, it's all a stretch. It is the acts of men that could use more critical askance. Are you sure they didn't blame it on the Russians ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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