webfact Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 Army denies ‘suspicious circumstances’ claim in death of teenage cadet By PREEWADEE WICHAIPRASIT, JITRAPORN SENWONG, PIYANUCH THAMNUKASETCHAI THE NATION PHRAMONGKUTKLAO Hospital has dismissed concerns surrounding the recent death and reported “missing organs” of an 18-year-old military student. Phakhapong “Moei” Tanyakan, a first-year student at the Armed Forces Academies Preparatory School (AFAPS), died on October 17 under what the family believes were suspicious circumstances. Lt Colonel Narut Thongsorn, a senior doctor at the hospital’s Army Institute of Pathology, said yesterday: “His body had no signs of injuries at all so we partially removed some of his organs, like his brain and heart, for detailed examination.” He said the organs could be returned to the family now that the examination had been completed. “The results show he died of acute heart failure,” Narut said. The hospital held a press conference yesterday in response to the complaint from Phakhapong’s family members. They said they secretly submitted Phakhapong’s body for a second autopsy and were told some of his organs had been removed. This week, the family contacted the media to voice their concerns about what they claim were irregularities in Phakhapong’s death. AFAPS commander Maj-General Kanokpong Channuan told reporters that the issue of missing organs was a medical matter linked to the first autopsy. Kanokpong insisted that the fatal heart failure suffered by Phakhapong was not related to punishment he suffered three months ago. Phakhapong’s elder sister, Supicha Tanyakan, said yesterday that her sibling almost died on August 23 because of punishment he received at the school. “He fell unconscious and demonstrated low vital signs that day,” Supicha said. She added that her brother later told her that he had been punished because he and his friend were on a path prohibited by his seniors. “His senior forced him to put his legs up and his head down in a sauna room for hours,” she said. Supreme Commander General Thanchaiyan Srisuwan summoned Kanokpong to explain the case after the scandal broke. Prime Minister General Prayut Chan-o-cha, who is a former Army chief, said he was sad to hear about Phakhapong’s death. “I’ve heard that he fell ill quite often and received medical help at the school from time to time,” Prayut said. Kanokpong said Phakhapong took part in the school activities as usual on October 16 but then reported accelerated breathing. “So, he went to the first-aid room. CCTV has recorded all that,” Kanokpong said. He said Phakhapong fainted on October 16 and 17 “and we sent him to the hospital where he was pronounced dead”. Asked about the incident in which Phakhapong was punished and almost died a few months ago, Kanokpong admitted that the punishment had taken place. “But we have already taken disciplinary action against those involved,” Kanokpong said, adding that the case was also not related to the symptoms that caused Phakhapong’s death last month. Prayut said if any investigation showed Phakhapong did not die naturally, those responsible for his death would face a stiff penalty. Source: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/detail/national/30332200 -- © Copyright The Nation 2017-11-22 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave67 Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 Barbaric punishment that obviously contributed to his death Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lupin Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 Maybe Thai media should be naming these "brutal beatings" for what they are instead of repeatedly supporting the military's attempt to normalize it by labeling it simply "punishment" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob12345 Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 Quote Prayut said if any investigation showed Phakhapong did not die naturally, those responsible for his death would face a stiff penalty. But he forgot to add that the investigation would be done by the army itself. As always he has his mouth full on how to run the country and how others should behave, but everything he and his army does is off limits for a real investigation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nausea Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 Has become a big news item; all over Channel 3 this morning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave67 Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 1 minute ago, nausea said: Has become a big news item; all over Channel 3 this morning. Yeah the Army/Junta are having to answer for their actions now. Nothing would have been said a few months ago Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Briggsy Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 5 minutes ago, nausea said: Has become a big news item; all over Channel 3 this morning. Fear not, the Thai army has been involved in plenty of scandals over the last few decades, many very similar to this one, and they are never held accountable and never subject to external scrutiny. This will be the same. This has only reached Channel 3 because the deceased was on track to enter the military as an officer and the family have some money, nous and clout. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenchair Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 I would like to comment, but the new warnings of keeping quiet carry a serious charge. I expect this story to disappear in a week or less. It's really sad though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yellowboat Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 Privilege is a right for some in Thailand. Others must rely on luck for there is not scrutiny or fairness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soistalker Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 So, as a first year student, they are subject to being beaten and punished by the second, third, and forth year students for any reason, like walking down a path? And standing on your head in a f#%king sauna for hours is torture. But of course no one will be punished for it. And the prime minister lied about him being sick often. Absurd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenchair Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 Fell ill quite often and recieved treatment at the hospital from time to time. Translation and my personal understanding . He often recieved injuries from his training supervisors which required hospital treatment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Briggsy Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 28 minutes ago, soistalker said: So, as a first year student, they are subject to being beaten and punished by the second, third, and forth year students for any reason, like walking down a path? And standing on your head in a f#%king sauna for hours is torture. But of course no one will be punished for it. And the prime minister lied about him being sick often. Absurd. Yes, mostly correct. I am sure there will be internal punishment but remember the Thai military answers to no external body. This is rule number 1. This explains the ridiculous statements of the PM. It also means that the internal disciplinary procedures will be not revealed. Even their existence will not be revealed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenchair Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 How do they know the heart being given back belongs to the boy. Surely upon the cremation they would have destroyed it. Why would they keep a heart? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulic Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 Deny, deny, deny, as long as possible and hopefully the uproar will pass. Standard operating procedure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greatwhitenorth Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 His brain was missing from his skull and internal organs were missing from his abdomen when his body was presented to his parents. That's a hell of a heart attack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miamiman123 Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 An absolute crime if the senior military officers knew or contributed to this kind of “punishment”... for this young man! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aslimversgwm Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 Just waiting for the junta fanboys to comment: 'to be expected at any military run school- normal behaviour anywhere in the world '. I went to a military style school in England and of course senior boys bullied juniors but nothing like this would in any way be allowed. Poor young man and so sad for his family and friends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DM07 Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 Oooooooh...if the Army sayeth so, so it must be! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meinphuket Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 First they denied it, then when it was revealed an autopsy had been performed by a hospital they admitted it, now they say it was justified. Being in the army doesn't mean you are the personal chattel of untouchable tyrants. Kudos to the parents, pursue them to the end. New abuse heights achieved today ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YetAnother Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 6 hours ago, webfact said: “But we have already taken disciplinary action against those involved,” Kanokpong said, adding that the case was also not related to the symptoms that caused Phakhapong’s death last month. Prayut said if any investigation showed Phakhapong did not die naturally, those responsible for his death would face a stiff penalty. beyond the pale of believability; is blatant lying taught in the various academies ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saminoz Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 Only in Thailand can the use of whitewash be considered a valid procedure in military autopsies! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammieuk1 Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 Denies ‘suspicious circumstances’ makes everyone suspicious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YetAnother Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 1 hour ago, Ulic said: Deny, deny, deny, as long as possible and hopefully the uproar will pass. Standard operating procedure. quite so, albeit entertaining, their excuses are ludicrous Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonmarleesco Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 Well, seeing as they claim he died as a result of a cardiac arrest, we can only assume Burke and Hare got involved, with a market for the young man's other organs. The only other possibility would be a cover up, and Heaven forbid, that would be unthinkable ... right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isitworthit Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 2 hours ago, yellowboat said: Privilege is a right for some in Thailand. Others must rely on luck for there is not scrutiny or fairness. A young Man died nothing to do with Privilage have little respect for this poor young man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonmarleesco Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 32 minutes ago, saminoz said: Only in Thailand can the use of whitewash be considered a valid procedure in military autopsies! Easily available in the military. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonmarleesco Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 (edited) 'I’ve heard that he fell ill quite often and received medical help at the school from time to time,” Prayut said.' Then what the hell <deleted - that was a word?> was he doing in the army? 'Prayut said if any investigation showed Phakhapong did not die naturally, those responsible for his death would face a stiff penalty.' A lot stiffer than both wrists slapped, I should hope. Edited November 22, 2017 by Jonmarleesco Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcpo Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 Another one? I'm starting to get them all mixed up now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenchair Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 A new low. Taking organs from the victim. They could have put them back. Really there is no excuse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenchair Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 4 minutes ago, dcpo said: Another one? I'm starting to get them all mixed up now. Yes, and another young man wishing to be an officer in the navy apparently fell down and broke his ribs (as they do in Thailand ). Since he was in the hospital recovering he missed his graduation so they discharged him. His father went down there and let them have it, so now he's in trouble. Waiting for outcome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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