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South Korea, U.S. kick off largest air exercise amid North Korean warnings

 

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A South Korean Army K-55 self-propelled artillery vehicle takes part in a military exercise near the demilitarised zone separating the two Koreas in Paju, South Korea, November 29, 2017. REUTERS/Kim Hong-Ji

 

SEOUL (Reuters) - South Korea and the United States launched their largest-ever joint aerial drills on Monday, officials said, a week after North Korea said it had tested its most advanced missile as part of a weapons programme that has raised global tensions.

 

The annual U.S.-South Korean drill, called Vigilant Ace, will run until Friday, with six F-22 Raptor stealth fighters to be deployed among the more than 230 aircraft taking part. The exercises have been condemned as a provocation by the isolated North.

 

F-35 fighters will also join the drill, which will also include the largest number of 5th generation fighters to take part, according to a South Korea-based U.S. Air Force spokesman.

 

Around 12,000 U.S. service members, including from the Marines and Navy, will join South Korean troops. Aircraft taking part will be flown from eight U.S. and South Korean military installations.

 

South Korean media reports said B-1B Lancer bombers could join the exercise this week. The U.S. Air Force spokesman could not confirm the reports.

 

The joint exercise is designed to enhance readiness and operational capability and to ensure peace and security on the Korean peninsula, the U.S. military had said before the drills began.

 

The drills come a week after North Korea said it had tested its most advanced intercontinental ballistic missile ever in defiance of international sanctions and condemnation.

 

Pyongyang blamed U.S. President Donald Trump for raising tensions and warned at the weekend the Vigilant Ace exercise was pushing tensions on the Korean peninsula towards "a flare-up", according to North Korean state media.

 

North Korea's Committee for the Peaceful Reunification of the Country called Trump "insane" on Sunday and said the drill would "push the already acute situation on the Korean peninsula to the brink of nuclear war".

 

The North's KCNA state news agency, citing a foreign ministry spokesman, also said on Saturday the Trump administration was "begging for nuclear war by staging an extremely dangerous nuclear gamble on the Korean peninsula".

 

North Korea regularly uses its state media to threaten the United States and its allies.

 

(Reporting by Christine Kim; Editing by Paul Tait)

 
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6 hours ago, nausea said:

Actually, N Korea has many options. I guess the reason they haven't started an artillery battle is cos of the cost. It's a one-shot economy. 

Kim hasn't started an artillery battle because he knows it will be the last thing he ever does. LOL

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Kimbo' really hates the yanks, cost he's so jealous being 70 years behind a country that already had a working FatBoy in their Inventory...

 

He needs some schooling from the Russians,  on how a ColdWar is supposed to be played out. 

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16 minutes ago, tifino said:

Kimbo' really hates the yanks, cost he's so jealous being 70 years behind a country that already had a working FatBoy in their Inventory...

 

He needs some schooling from the Russians,  on how a ColdWar is supposed to be played out. 

M.A.D.? He hasn't the resources to get there.

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14 minutes ago, quadperfect said:

This could be the smoke and mirrors of a us pre empt.

Maybe. Put a few hundred planes in the air after calling it a drill and the doing what obviously needs to be done. Surprise.

 

 

Considering that NK probably closely monitors such exercises, perhaps the surprise element is somewhat diminished.

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Who said anything about a surprise attack? NK will be given an ultimatum to discuss a treaty. Of which of course they will not accept. First strike, nuclear plants, communications, HQ's etc.  Rocket boy as a previous poster called him, will not know what hit him!

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4 hours ago, BuaBS said:

Laugh it up dude . Let's see if you're still laughing when the US gets fire and fury .

LOL. Right back at ya. You have a hat ready to eat?

 

I don't like Kim. Don't like Trump either. But Kim's not stupid. Far from it. He doesn't want to be coming out of a hole like Hussein.  LOL

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14 minutes ago, pattayadon said:

Destroying NK and it's leadership is the easy part. Question is, who wants to feed and support it's brain-washed population?  That's "the" fact that S. Korea nor the US wants to deal with.

SK would love reunification. They talk about it all the time.

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7 minutes ago, craigt3365 said:

LOL. Right back at ya. You have a hat ready to eat?

 

I don't like Kim. Don't like Trump either. But Kim's not stupid. Far from it. He doesn't want to be coming out of a hole like Hussein.  LOL

Sadam couldn't do any damage on US soil , Kim can.:smile:

 

Kim should strike and blame it on ISIS . The US border is so porous for immigrants , drugs ... why can't Kim already have some bio or chemical there ?

Like you say , Kim is not stupid , he has it covered or he should have before he went on an adventure like he is doing with all the tests & verbal rethoric.

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17 minutes ago, pattayadon said:

Destroying NK and it's leadership is the easy part. Question is, who wants to feed and support it's brain-washed population?  That's "the" fact that S. Korea nor the US wants to deal with.

It could fall mostly in China's lap.  That's why China has, for so long, been opposed to an imploding north.  China's dictators would punish any academic who broached the idea of one of the NK dictators (son, father or grandfather) getting snuffed out.  However, China is now taking a broader stance.  Recently, a University dean published a paper which broached the concept of a Kim-less North, joining with the South, and the dean wasn't punished. An improvement of sorts.

 

And you mentioned 'brain-washed.'   That's true.  The psychic scars are deep and broad.  It will be interesting to see how that plays out in the future.  Wouldn't be surprised if there are a lot of suicides and catatonic folks, when the smoke clears.

 

12 minutes ago, pattayadon said:

Who said anything about a surprise attack? NK will be given an ultimatum to discuss a treaty. Of which of course they will not accept. First strike, nuclear plants, communications, HQ's etc.  Rocket boy as a previous poster called him, will not know what hit him!

It's easy and a bit fun to go through war plans on an oversized ping pong table with a 2-dimensional map of NK on it.   I can picture Pentagon brass bent over the map, with wisps of white spittle at the edges of their mouths, "well, General, why not also bomb here and here. There are indications of arsenals at those places.   Oh, and here, we have intel that shows they were building a large hardened bunker.  That's got to be on at least the first five wave schedules."

 

Yet, the sobering truth is, though the US will be able to bomb a lot of juicy targets, there will be targets that are missed or not known about.  War is rife with mistakes.  On the other side; the NK's are salivating at the prospect of unleashing fire and fury on their select targets also.   One big difference:  the NK can sustain attacks for days.  The US for weeks.

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4 minutes ago, boomerangutang said:

It could fall mostly in China's lap.  That's why China has, for so long, been opposed to an imploding north.  China's dictators would punish any academic who broached the idea of one of the NK dictators (son, father or grandfather) getting snuffed out.  However, China is now taking a broader stance.  Recently, a University dean published a paper which broached the concept of a Kim-less North, joining with the South, and the dean wasn't punished. An improvement of sorts.

 

And you mentioned 'brain-washed.'   That's true.  The psychic scars are deep and broad.  It will be interesting to see how that plays out in the future.  Wouldn't be surprised if there are a lot of suicides and catatonic folks, when the smoke clears.

 

It's easy and a bit fun to go through war plans on an oversized ping pong table with a 2-dimensional map of NK on it.   I can picture Pentagon brass bent over the map, with wisps of white spittle at the edges of their mouths, "well, General, why not also bomb here and here. There are indications of arsenals at those places.   Oh, and here, we have intel that shows they were building a large hardened bunker.  That's got to be on at least the first five wave schedules."

 

Yet, the sobering truth is, though the US will be able to bomb a lot of juicy targets, there will be targets that are missed or not known about.  War is rife with mistakes.  On the other side; the NK's are salivating at the prospect of unleashing fire and fury on their select targets also.   One big difference:  the NK can sustain attacks for days.  The US for weeks.

Excellent post Boom.  Reality is, South Korea, unfortunately , would receive the worst casualties. It will be a "fire at will to the south". No targets no nothing, just fire south. When the smoke clears, 1 Korea.  How the northern population reacts to new leadership is the big question.  Cheers! 

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6 minutes ago, boomerangutang said:

Yet, the sobering truth is, though the US will be able to bomb a lot of juicy targets, there will be targets

A lot more juicy targets in the US , it's like shooting fish in a barrel.

He needs a lot of H14 & H15's for that .

Kim has only to succeed in 1 ( better 2 ) EMP's , and the US looses 90 % of their population within a year. I'm surprised that he doesn't already have a satelite with an H bomb in orbit by now , ready to strike.

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Just a thought, but here goes:

 

The US put up designated satellites for GPS.  Many people use GPS, for personal, business, military, etc.    GPS is free.  It's one of America's free gifts to the world, along with Hubble, the hula hoop, the frisbee, and ideas of no-smoking zones, handicapped parking, national parks, and several other things.

 

back to GPS.  The US military has a more precise version of GPS for its own uses.  I assume they use the same satellites, but have them tuned to a more precise channel.

 

NK must also use GPS for its military guidance.  It would therefore be using a free American service to guide its missiles.   

 

Here's the hypothetical twist:  when NK fires its missiles, the US could turn off GPS (just the satellites orbiting over the Pacific at that time?).  It would blind the missiles' directional guidance systems - unless they're pre-programmed for their entire flights, which would seem to the untrained eye (me), to be odd.

 

Granted, turning off GPS, even for a few minutes, would be troublesome for many who have come to rely upon it.   Particularly for air flights (not so much for ships at sea).   Oh well, just a thought.

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9 hours ago, BuaBS said:

A lot more juicy targets in the US , it's like shooting fish in a barrel.

He needs a lot of H14 & H15's for that .

Kim has only to succeed in 1 ( better 2 ) EMP's , and the US looses 90 % of their population within a year. I'm surprised that he doesn't already have a satelite with an H bomb in orbit by now , ready to strike.

The US is large and far away from NK.  What's an emp?  There are cities and towns, but there's a whole lot of fallow/farm/forest space surrounding/between them.  So, sending one or two bombs without precise guidance is more likely to hit a pasture or ravine, than a town.

 

saying stuff like 'US looses (sp) 90% of their population within a year' is just silliness.  Even if Kim hits Anchorage Alaska dead on (Bob forbid!), that's a v. small fraction of the US population.   Guiding a bomb attached to a missile for thousands of miles requires great precision - to hit a specific target.  Many things can go wrong.  

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37 minutes ago, BuaBS said:

Maybe read up on EMP's then.

 

To deliver EMP's , missiles don't have to be accurate or re-enter , an absence of GPS signal would not change much. Better 2 EMP's , one for each coast than what the picture shows. The flyover states are not the worst , although a hit on NSA's new data centre in Utah would be nice.

What a horrible post. Promoting destruction like that. Only a sick person would relish something like that.

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