JAG Posted December 23, 2017 Share Posted December 23, 2017 Thankfully this puts to bed all the many suggestions that the split was closer than the Independence supporters suggested. Now the EU has to show its true backbone - it cannot censure Poland for its increasingly authoritarian government while continuing to turn a blind eye to Madrid's tyrannical grip on Catalonia. I'll bet they will...Sent from my KENNY using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAG Posted December 23, 2017 Share Posted December 23, 2017 You're comparing apples to mangoes. India was a colony and the people had no representation in Parliament.. Last time I checked, Catalans had the right to vote and were full-fledged citizens of Spain.It would seem that they may have voted to leave...Sent from my KENNY using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAG Posted December 23, 2017 Share Posted December 23, 2017 "Having a political view is fine. Expressing that view is fine."How does that fit with the (jailed) Catelonian vice president being sent to solitary confinement for discussing politics with other prisoners?Sent from my KENNY using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GOLDBUGGY Posted December 23, 2017 Share Posted December 23, 2017 22 hours ago, RuamRudy said: So what do you think is the answer? This conundrum has been brewing for years yet the Madrid stance has been to put its fingers in its ears. The fact is that the Catalan people have repeatedly made clear their dissatisfaction in being governed from Madrid, even in the context of the autonomy afforded to them. Whether you like it or not, they are clear that they want something else. So much so, should the pro-independence parties reach a coalition agreement, they will have a majority in parliament. Should their wishes be ignored because people elsewhere, who do not share the same values, history or even language disagree? These words are the same words the South used on the North and the start of the Civil War. A War that cost more American Lives then both World Wars combined. When you are part of a country it is like joining the Mafia. You are Family now and you just can't walk away whenever you feel like it. History has proven this time and time again. Catalonia is the riches state in Spain. Is it fare to Spain for them to simply walk away because the people of Catalonia would be finacially better off on there own then by being part of Spain? Alberta was the riches Province in Canada when Oil Prices were high. Is it fare for them to simply form there own country and say the hell with Canada, just because they have more. Or for Texas to do that? Sure they have difference which they need to work out farely. As someone poited out, it is not a Democracy when one state votes to leave the rest of the country. The whole country should get a vote on that since it effects the whole country. When the UK decided to break away from BREX, the whole country got to vote and not just people in London. Making this vote fare and legal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khun Han Posted December 23, 2017 Share Posted December 23, 2017 https://news.sky.com/story/exiled-carles-puigdemont-demands-return-to-catalonia-by-23-january-11183015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluespunk Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 Visqui Catalonia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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