sanemax Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 50 minutes ago, Time Traveller said: On the other hand, if you're from the new world and don't have snowflake like qualities when it comes to what other people think, then feel free to remove your shirt when exercising in public. There is no law against it (unless you're female). In fact, I've been doing it for 15 years, and never had a problem. Nor do I even remember any negative comments either. If you don't beleive me, then get out more. So, a snowfake is someone who doesnt really like seeing men running around shirtless ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Weird Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 13 minutes ago, 12DrinkMore said: Nah, some people have class and some people are just bogans. ...or the uncouth lout thinks that his body is so wonderful that they should display it and others should be forced to 'admire' it. There is no other reason to do it, surely? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
likeke Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 You should always wear a shirt in public. Period. Especially as one gets older. Very rude not to wear proper clothing while in public. If in doubt, take the high road. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Time Traveller Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 1 minute ago, sanemax said: So, a snowfake is someone who doesnt really like seeing men running around shirtless ? No, it's people who are offended by it, triggering outrage and think that they have the moral right to tell other law abiding people what they should do, how to behave, what to wear etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanemax Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 4 minutes ago, Time Traveller said: No, it's people who are offended by it, triggering outrage and think that they have the moral right to tell other law abiding people what they should do, how to behave, what to wear etc. Who is getting offended by it though ? You stated that you had no issues in running around semi naked for 15 years . No one is telling you what to do or how to behave , you happily go running around semi naked and I will happily look the other way as too not see you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJKT2014 Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 28 minutes ago, Time Traveller said: when they see someone there doing muay thai, or takraw or lifting weights or jogging without a shirt on. You've lost the plot. The o/p was about jogging shirtless. Thais don't go shirtless jogging or walking. Sitting in a restaurant or shopping shirtless is ignorant as well unless on the beach. Its an insulting and threatening behavior. What you mention is a different kind of exercise where some aggressive stance is part of the sport, Thais understand that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Time Traveller Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 (edited) 30 minutes ago, robblok said: You seem to have not much knowledge about Thai culture. People rarely complain (to avoid conflict) do you really think they would tell you if you were offending them (creating conflict). My knowledge of Thais has come from conversation and observation. My home borders a village park and I see plenty of people exercising there. NONE of the Thais ever go bare chest for exercise. I was told in general it is frowned upon with some exceptions of course as not everyone always thinks the same thing. I guess I don't have much knowledge of thai culture. Neither do the thais I train with twice a week in the local park. Care to educate us? Lumpini park this Friday.....come on down, we'd be glad to meet an expert, but I can understand if you don't want to be seen with us lower classes Edited January 22, 2018 by Time Traveller Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chingmai331 Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 Northern chinese men have a very pronounced, and ugly, habit of rolling up the front of the t-shirt to about the nipples and displaying the gut belly, this only in the summer. To see a group of lazy, slovens puffing away on cigs, swilling rot-gut 'bai jiu' with dirty yellow smelly bellies hanging out...the boorish result of thousands of years of male domination. I never saw a white man do this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robblok Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 Just now, Time Traveller said: I guess I don't have much knowledge of thai culture. Neither do the thais I train with twice a week in the local park. Care to educate us? Lumpini park this Friday.....come on down, we'd be glad to meet an expert, but I can understand if you don't want to hand out with us lower classes Different places different experiences, not in the park where I live and who says nobody is offended by this. I told you not everyone thinks the same. I would not train there, but that has nothing to do with class and all with safety. There are no collars on that bar. That can be dangerous, in the past I had weight slip off and if the weight is heavy enough.. after one side slips you lie on the floor with the other part of the weight (been there done that). Now that I am a bit older i prefer to workout in my own gym. Spend enough on it in the 10 years that i lived here. I am not sure i could even workout properly in that heat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven100 Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 some farang look pretty disgusting even with a shirt on ... lol especially sitting on their bar stools in Pattaya .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12DrinkMore Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 20 minutes ago, Just Weird said: ...or the uncouth lout thinks that his body is so wonderful that they should display it and others should be forced to 'admire' it. There is no other reason to do it, surely? It is a lack of self-confidence and an attention seeking disorder. They will proclaim that, "they don't care what other people think", whereas in fact, in all cases, it is exactly the opposite. The poor guys need to have someone notice that they exist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isaanbanhou Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 5 minutes ago, Time Traveller said: I guess I don't have much knowledge of thai culture. Neither do the thais I train with twice a week in the local park. Care to educate us? Lumpini park this Friday.....come on down, we'd be glad to meet an expert, but I can understand if you don't want to be seen with us lower classes Thanks for the offer, but I have no desire to see you shirtless in person. I come from a nation where running shirtless in public is frowned upon and it is in "the new world" Which one is you by the way, the top or the bottom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanemax Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 16 minutes ago, Just Weird said: ...or the uncouth lout thinks that his body is so wonderful that they should display it and others should be forced to 'admire' it. There is no other reason to do it, surely? I do believe that there is a certain amount of exhibitionism going on with guys running around topless , especially when they wear tight Lycra shorts and big running shoes , which are akin to girls wearing high heels . Not much difference between them and girls wrapped around poles in go-go bars Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Weird Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 9 minutes ago, Time Traveller said: I guess I don't have much knowledge of thai culture. Neither do the thais I train with twice a week in the local park. Care to educate us? Lumpini park this Friday.....come on down, we'd be glad to meet an expert, but I can understand if you don't want to be seen with us lower classes Care to provide evidence of Thais jogging shirtless with you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanemax Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 14 minutes ago, Time Traveller said: I guess I don't have much knowledge of thai culture. Neither do the thais I train with twice a week in the local park. Care to educate us? Lumpini park this Friday.....come on down, we'd be glad to meet an expert, but I can understand if you don't want to be seen with us lower classes That area should be fenced off with hoardings around it , it looks like they are having sex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Time Traveller Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 6 minutes ago, Just Weird said: Care to provide evidence of Thais jogging shirtless with you? No. I have no evidence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chuang Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 Why can't you put on a shirt or t-shirt..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Weird Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Time Traveller said: No. I have no evidence. Either that's not you or the other photo that you posted (#37) wasn't you. Which one is the b ullshit one? If that really is you in the photo in this post then you really need to put a shirt on. That body is not something to be showing off. Edited January 22, 2018 by Just Weird Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanemax Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 9 minutes ago, chuang said: Why can't you put on a shirt or t-shirt..... Maybe for the same reason that they wear Muy Thai boxing shorts , exhibitionism Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isaanbanhou Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 (edited) If you dont care what others think 1) why would you post a thread about it 2) why would you have justify what you are doing I don t see many positive comments on your actions, now you know what your peers think. I suspect it brings you pleasure to make others cringe, Would I stop you on the street and tell you I think you have no manners? no. I promise I won t. Would I enjoy your company? no I doubt I would. Do I give a rats arse what you do? no as well Edited January 22, 2018 by isaanbanhou Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robblok Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 18 minutes ago, sanemax said: That area should be fenced off with hoardings around it , it looks like they are having sex Just an unconventional way of spotting someone (spotting is helping someone with the last few reps). Normally people would stand behind the intended target to do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tchooptip Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 1 hour ago, Time Traveller said: The correct answer is this. If you're a farang from a class structured society like Britain who beleives they are better than others and think it's important to project the image they are part of the upper crust of society and living in fear of what the mythical thai upper/middle class think of them, then leave your shirt on, and continue to denounce other farang especially in front of thais to hammer home the point, that you're one of the "good farangs". Reasssure yourself it's going to earn you lots of respect amongst the Thai upper/middle classes. On the other hand, if you're from the new world and don't have snowflake like qualities when it comes to what other people think, then feel free to remove your shirt when exercising in public. There is no law against it (unless you're female). In fact, I've been doing it for 15 years, and never had a problem. Nor do I even remember any negative comments either. If you don't beleive me, then get out more. You obviously never go to Antibes harbour in south of France because it would have cost you a fine of 20 euros, Same in Cannes and Nice for instance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Time Traveller Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 (edited) 41 minutes ago, Just Weird said: Either that's not you or the other photo that you posted (#37) wasn't you. Which one is the b ullshit one? If that really is you in the photo in this post then you really need to put a shirt on. That body is not something to be showing off. I told you in my post, I have no evidence of me jogging without a shirt. It's from a friend's gym of boxers that train with them. But 3 of them are thais, none of them have shirts, and they are all jogging on the street in thailand.....and that's the evidence you wanted to see. Edited January 22, 2018 by Time Traveller Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satcommlee Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 I know of a British guy that got arrested for not wearing a shirt in a public park and he got a life sentence.. Mind you, he did have 9000 ecstasy sown into his trousers but it was being Shirtless that got him arrested.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Weird Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 6 minutes ago, Time Traveller said: I told you in my post, I have no evidence of me jogging without a shirt. It's from a friend's gym of boxers that train with them. But 3 of them are thais, none of them have shirts, and they are all jogging on the street in thailand.....and that's the evidence you wanted to see. You're right, I misread your reply as meaning you had evidence. But can you explain why you posted photos that are irrelevant as far as your exercising is concerned? The implication that you made was that there are Thais doing the same shirtless jogging with you when there are clearly not. That last photo is not the evidence "I wanted to see", this discussion revolves around you, not some unconnected boxers in some unconnected location. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
William C F Pierce Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 I don't know about running, but men in shorts and women in bikinis sunbath in the park of the old city in Chiang Mai. It does not seem to worry anyone. Including Thai parents with children. Its only a problem if people complain in numbers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PerkinsCuthbert Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 4 hours ago, blackcab said: When I've been jogging in Benjakitti park I've seen two different men jogging without shirts. Both of them decided to jog the "wrong way" around the lake, with one if them preferring to jog on the cycling track. Then again I've also seen a nun jogging round the lake in a habit and veil. It certainly makes things more interesting. Does she jog there habitually then...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxcorrigan Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 3 hours ago, isaanbanhou said: Funny, he puts down anyone who would have a different opinion than he does because he doesn t care what others think of him. I thought same thing, there has got be a Brit basher in here somewhere, even when the article does not refer to them specifically so well done, join the list of many who elect themselves to be a supreme judge of nationalities! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dotpoom Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 20 hours ago, canuckamuck said: I think it depends on the size of your rack. Why...when it's the size of your wallet that counts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DjSilver Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 At the park in phrom pong I see many Thai work out without there shirts on. So go ahead it is no problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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