Former national police chief suspected of links to Victoria’s parlour money trail

[wealthychef]

2 hours ago, mikiea said:

it is called forced prostitution

 

of little girls  , you sound fine with that ....apologist comes to mind when i read your words . 

 

Well maybe you should read my words again and pay attention the second time.  I said "all the arrests mentioned and evidence described just sounds like illegal prostitution work, not trafficking. "  I didn't say "trafficking is not real" or "trafficking is great."  You are either a troll or just have very poor comprehension.  

[jonstarjon]

This is nowhere nearly the top of the tree we all know who is the boss of most the Ratchada high MPs .. same guy who likes a nude birthday present. xx

[catman20]

Former national police chief suspected of links to Victoria’s parlour money trail

 

NO! 

[Jimdandy]

Can you say free blowjob.

[mtls2005]

14 hours ago, Marley01 said:

Silly question, 

can a retired police chief be transferred to an inactive post?

 

He's now head of the Football Association of Thailand, where additional money-making opportunities might rival that of the RTP?

[hobz]

I think they could fully embrace and legalize prostitution and tax it and clean it up. 

including allowing work permits for foreign sex workers.

 

 

 

[wavemanwww]

On 2/3/2018 at 4:19 PM, trainman34014 said:

He will be summoned, spoken to very nicely with loads of wai's and then released without charge.    He certainly won't be interrogated or have any of his assets frozen as he has too many friends in high places.  This is Thailand where true justice is unheard of !

Agree, My quandary is how do they send an Ex National Police Chief to an  "Inactive post"? Do they re employ him then do that?

[Just Weird]

On ‎2‎/‎3‎/‎2018 at 12:57 PM, sammieuk1 said:

Is there anyone straight here in this very flexible land?

Yes there are some, just like in every other country where only some are straight.

[hashmodha]

Former national police chief suspected of links to Victoria’s parlour money trail

By The Nation
 

 
A FORMER national police chief will be among those likely to be summoned by investigators working on the human-trafficking case involving a Bangkok massage parlour, a source said yesterday.
 

In addition to the unnamed retired police chief, five other people may also be summoned for questioning by the Department of Special Investigation (DSI) as part of its investigation, according to the source.

 

They are suspected of involvement in the money trail of the Victoria’s: The Secret Forever massage parlour, which is being investigated for involvement in human trafficking and prostitution. 

 

Authorities from DSI and other agencies raided the parlour last month and rounding up more than 100 masseuses who were mostly illegal migrants from neighbouring countries. 

 

Arrest warrants issued

 

A number of the parlour’s executives were apprehended and arrest warrants were issued for its alleged owners, including businessman Kampol Weerathepsuporn and his wife Nipa.

Investigators have found connections between the people facing arrest warrants and those likely |to be summoned for questioning, |the DSI source said yesterday. They were found to be connected to |financial transactions involving some Bt300 million, according to the source who asked to remain anonymous.

 

Also, it was found that a former national police chief was named in the parlour’s lists as a recipient of free services in March 2014. The list was among the items confiscated during the raid last month. 

 

The DSI had handed the list to the Public Sector Anti-Corruption Commission (PACC) as part of the latter’s separate investigation against officials allegedly being bribed by the massage parlour, according to a source from the PACC. 

 

It was unclear yesterday whether it was the same former national police chief to be summoned for questioning.

 

So far, none of the parlour’s employees have identified the police officers who were recorded in the list of those receiving services free of charge, the PACC source said.

 

The employees questioned by authorities all maintained that no state officials had received services at the parlour for free, according to the source.

 

Source: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/detail/national/30337835

 

  -- [emoji767] Copyright The Nation 2018-02-03

Gosh ...They are involved in all sorts aren't they?

Please Excuse spelling mistakes/Misunderstanding/Grammar! :-)

[Lungstib]

It cant be easy trying to decide which of the former police chiefs was not involved in misdeeds or corruption. 

[Eric Loh]

54 minutes ago, Lungstib said:

It cant be easy trying to decide which of the former police chiefs was not involved in misdeeds or corruption. 

Not sure if they involved in corruption but they sure are a wealthy lot. There was an article not that long ago that state the average assets of top police chiefs was around 258M Baht. Somyot not too shabby with 376M Baht. They must be working very hard with OT and sidelines. 

[Jonah Tenner]

On 3.2.2018 at 9:41 AM, wealthychef said:

I'm always suspicious of claims of human trafficking.  It's a catch-phrase like "terrorism" that allows police to take extraordinary measures without clear evidence.  I'm not saying HT is not happening here, but let's first just admit that human trafficking is not the same thing as prostitution, and all the arrests mentioned and evidence described just sounds like illegal prostitution work, not trafficking.  

Among those taken into custody were several underage girls from Myanmar and Cambodia who had probably been forced into prostitution. That is what made this into a Human Trafficking case. 

[wealthychef]

22 minutes ago, Jonah Tenner said:

Among those taken into custody were several underage girls from Myanmar and Cambodia who had probably been forced into prostitution. That is what made this into a Human Trafficking case. 

"probably" according to whom now?  Underage by what standard and in what culture?  Seriously, there is reason to be skeptical of hyped-up claims of human trafficking,  I repeat that these are often used to prosecute people for just being kinky or violating local codes.  https://sexworkresearch.wordpress.com/2013/07/08/popular-claims-vs-evidence-based-conclusions-in-human-trafficking/

And I also repeat, that thaivisa is not scrupulous in their reporting ethics in terms of checking sources and facts in my opinion. This one smells like someone has an agenda.  Nobody gets busted here for the actual crime, they get busted for being enemies with someone important.  

Edited February 4, 2018 by wealthychef

[isaanbanhou]

3 minutes ago, wealthychef said:

"probably" according to whom now?  Underage by what standard and in what culture?  Seriously, there is reason to be skeptical of hyped-up claims of human trafficking,  I repeat that these are often used to prosecute people for just being kinky or violating local codes.  https://sexworkresearch.wordpress.com/2013/07/08/popular-claims-vs-evidence-based-conclusions-in-human-trafficking/

And I also repeat, that thaivisa is not scrupulous in their reporting ethics in terms of checking sources and facts in my opinion. This one smells like someone has an agenda.  Nobody gets busted here for the actual crime, they get busted for being enemies with someone important.  

as you have been told earlier by another poster ...apologist comes to mind.  

[Jonah Tenner]

17 minutes ago, wealthychef said:

"probably" according to whom now?  Underage by what standard and in what culture?  Seriously, there is reason to be skeptical of hyped-up claims of human trafficking,  I repeat that these are often used to prosecute people for just being kinky or violating local codes.  https://sexworkresearch.wordpress.com/2013/07/08/popular-claims-vs-evidence-based-conclusions-in-human-trafficking/

And I also repeat, that thaivisa is not scrupulous in their reporting ethics in terms of checking sources and facts in my opinion. This one smells like someone has an agenda.  Nobody gets busted here for the actual crime, they get busted for being enemies with someone important.  

There is another news source in Bangkok, which we are not allowed to quote here, that mention 80 women rescued from forced prostitution in this particular instance, among them several underage girls (under 15 years old) one who claimed to have been there since she was twelve...

You sir, is expressing and showing off only your lack of information and your unwillingness to inform yourself.

Apologist seems too kind.

Edited February 4, 2018 by Jonah Tenner

[mikiea]

On 2/3/2018 at 10:28 PM, wealthychef said:

 

Well maybe you should read my words again and pay attention the second time.  I said "all the arrests mentioned and evidence described just sounds like illegal prostitution work, not trafficking. "  I didn't say "trafficking is not real" or "trafficking is great."  You are either a troll or just have very poor comprehension.  

again you miss the point ,.....prostitution  and prostitution of a minor are 2 separate crimes , you do not seem to be able  to understand the depravity of child prositution . you seem to be a apologist at heart . please i am thru with you , do not respond ,thank you 

[The Deerhunter]

On 03/02/2018 at 2:39 PM, Colabamumbai said:

Yes most foreigners.

Probably basically correct. Let's not muddy the waters by springing any  long lists of national exceptions to this helpful generalisation.  Even though we all have our personal hobby horses of national dislikes/distrusts!  Well, I know I certainly do, but once again, always generalisations. 

Edited February 5, 2018 by The Deerhunter

[The Deerhunter]

On 03/02/2018 at 7:53 PM, mikiea said:

and where is our self appointed PM on this matter ?

 

I am sure he would confirm that there are much more heinous things to occupy his attention. Dress and dancing styles etc?  'Nuff said!!

[wealthychef]

14 hours ago, isaanbanhou said:

as you have been told earlier by another poster ...apologist comes to mind.  

Even though that's not what I'm saying, fine, think what you want.  Since you don't really have much in the way of substance, try ad hominem.  It works for Trump.  

[wealthychef]

13 hours ago, Jonah Tenner said:

There is another news source in Bangkok, which we are not allowed to quote here, that mention 80 women rescued from forced prostitution in this particular instance, among them several underage girls (under 15 years old) one who claimed to have been there since she was twelve...

You sir, is expressing and showing off only your lack of information and your unwillingness to inform yourself.

Apologist seems too kind.

First of all, to hell with you for the ad hominem BS attack implying I somehow support slavery.  Got to hell.  I stand corrected if indeed this is forced prostitution, which would be human trafficking. I still feel that this deplorable practice is a distraction from the real issues of the world, but yes, nobody should be conscripted into slavery.  Obviously.  You guys are complete jerks.  

[wealthychef]

2 hours ago, mikiea said:

again you miss the point ,.....prostitution  and prostitution of a minor are 2 separate crimes , you do not seem to be able  to understand the depravity of child prositution . you seem to be a apologist at heart . please i am thru with you , do not respond ,thank you 

 

You guys keep twisting my words.  Not ONCE did I support child prostitution or minimize the evils of human trafficking. I was questioning whether this story was about those things.  Evidence has been supplied now which was NOT in the article.  Instead of just supplying me with facts to support that I was wrong, you chose to insult me, so go to hell you stinking jerk with your insinuations and evil remarks.  

[isaanbanhou]

6 hours ago, wealthychef said:

Even though that's not what I'm saying, fine, think what you want.  Since you don't really have much in the way of substance, try ad hominem.  It works for Trump.  

next time I will say nothing  and let people think what they think.  you want cultural context as to what is underage?  cool bro, you ll get cultural context of what posters think a beast deserves

Edited February 5, 2018 by isaanbanhou

[mtls2005]

Somyot has publicly acknowledged that he had borrowed a huge sum of money (~ 300 million baht) from the fugitive owner of the Victoria's Secret Massage brothel, Kampol Wirathepsuporn. 

 

But everything is legal, he thinks.