Republicans signal no quick moves on guns despite Trump push

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Republicans signal no quick moves on guns despite Trump push

By Susan Cornwell and Richard Cowan

 

Marjory Stoneman Douglas student Cameron Kasky (L) asks Senator Marco Rubio if he will continue to accept money from the NRA during a CNN town hall meeting, at the BB&T Center, in Sunrise, Florida, U.S. February 21, 2018. REUTERS/Michael Laughlin/Pool

 

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Republican senators in the U.S. Congress signalled on Thursday that they were hesitant to embrace a call from President Donald Trump for sweeping changes to gun laws, including measures more typically backed by Democrats.

 

Trump shocked fellow Republicans on Wednesday when he threw his support behind a broad set of restrictions on gun sales in response to the Feb. 14 mass shooting at a high school in Parkland, Florida, that killed 17 people.

 

But he left the issue in the lap of Congress, and did not say how hard he would twist arms in his party to advance measures that many Americans passionately view as infringing on their constitutional right to own guns.

 

Complicating matters, after meeting with Trump and Vice President Mike Pence late on Thursday, the National Rifle Association's chief lobbyist Chris Cox said on Twitter that Trump and Pence "don't want gun control."

 

Senate Republican Leader Mitch McConnell said banking legislation - not guns - would be at the top of the agenda next week, and said the process for gun-related bills was still under discussion.

 

McConnell said he hoped to eventually see debate on a narrowly tailored bill from John Cornyn of Texas, the No. 2 Senate Republican, that would strengthen a database of people who are not legally allowed to buy guns.

 

"We'd love to do that at some point. I'm hoping there's a way forward," McConnell said.

 

Senate Democrats said they want to debate mandates on background checks at gun shows and internet sales, among other measures, but said Trump would need to push his colleagues.

 

"One public meeting will not close background check loopholes," said Senate Democratic Leader Chuck Schumer. "The coming days will prove whether the president's words yesterday were an aberration - I hope not."

 

The White House had been expected to release a list of policy measures that Trump backs, but spokeswoman Sarah Sanders on Thursday described the process as an "ongoing discussion."

 

"This is going to be an ongoing process and something that we don't expect to happen overnight, but something that we're going to continue to be engaged in," Sanders told reporters, noting Trump plans to meet next week with the video game industry.

 

Trump has said he is disturbed by the level of violence he has seen in video games and movies accessible to children like his son Barron, age 12.

 

Republican Senator John Kennedy told reporters he was sceptical that any gun control legislation will advance soon.

 

"So far, there's been a lot of chopping but I don't see any chips flying. And I'm not sure that's going to change," Kennedy said, noting Americans "feel passionately" about their constitutional rights on gun ownership.

 

NARROW BILL SEEN AS MOST PRAGMATIC

 

Cornyn, who sat beside Trump during his free-flowing, televised meeting on Wednesday, told reporters he believes his modest proposal to improve the background check system for gun buyers was more pragmatic than the more ambitious approach Trump appeared to back.

 

"I still think it’s the best way forward to get something done and not end up empty-handed," Cornyn said after meeting with leaders of the Senate Judiciary Committee, Chairman Chuck Grassley and ranking Democratic member Dianne Feinstein.

 

Cornyn said 50 senators have now signed up to support his bill, which he said could be used as a "base" for debating other measures as amendments. The decision will be up to McConnell.

 

Trump on Wednesday seemed to back several measures that are opposed by the National Rifle Association, the powerful gun lobby that backed his 2016 candidacy.

 

He voiced support for raising the age for legally buying rifles to 21 from 18, and expressed interest in state laws that allow police to temporarily seize guns from people reported to be dangerous.

 

NRA spokeswoman Dana Loesch said on Fox News Channel that the group believes the focus should be on making schools more secure, rather than restricting constitutional rights to own guns.

 

Republican Senator Pat Toomey downplayed some of Trump's comments, saying he thought the meeting showed Trump wants to get legislation done. "I think there's an old saying about this president, which is 'Take him seriously, not necessarily literally,'" Toomey said.

 

Senator Marco Rubio of Florida said on Thursday that he backed restraining orders for guns owned by people deemed to be dangerous, as well as funding for measures to train schools to identify warning signs for violence.

 

But Rubio - who has been under pressure from student activists - backed away from a proposal to change age limits for guns, saying the issue did not have enough support in Congress to pass.

 

(Reporting by Richard Cowan, Roberta Rampton, Susan Cornwell; Additional reporting by Doina Chiacu, Jeff Mason, Susan Heavey, Eric Walsh; writing by Roberta Rampton; Editing by Kevin Drawbaugh, Jonathan Oatis and Daniel Wallis)

 

-- © Copyright Reuters 2018-03-02

[Grouse]

Pathetic 

[alanrchase]

Worried about the violence in the video games his son has? That is called bad parenting.

[Srikcir]

Anyone remember this in 2014 -

An Arizona shooting range instructor who was accidentally killed by a 9-year-old girl with an Uzi when she was allowed to fire it at the range.

An investigation by the Arizona Division of Occupational Safety and Health found no serious violations at the outdoor shooting range.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/family-charles-vacca-gun-instructor-killed-girl-uzi-sues-arizona-range/

Pro-gun advocates argued in response to the above accident that even very young children learn:

• hand-eye coordination
• what to do if they stumble upon a weapon on the playground
• how to defend themselves if they are ever attacked

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2016/08/26/two-years-after-9-year-olds-fatal-uzi-shooting-instructors-family-files-wrongful-death-suit/?utm_term=.e2a751407bcc

This is part of what gun-control advocates are up against.

[Jonmarleesco]

Whatever they do (or don't do), there's no fear they could ever be described as quick.

[mrwebb8825]

On 3/2/2018 at 3:51 PM, alanrchase said:

Worried about the violence in the video games his son has? That is called bad parenting.

That's not what he said.

"Trump has said he is disturbed by the level of violence he has seen in video games and movies accessible to children like his son Barron, age 12."

[ilostmypassword]

22 minutes ago, mrwebb8825 said:

That's not what he said.

"Trump has said he is disturbed by the level of violence he has seen in video games and movies accessible to children like his son Barron, age 12."

Really?

"The video games, movies, the Internet stuff is so violent," Trump said during the livestreamed meeting with lawmakers, in response to parental concerns passed on by Tennessee Republican Marsha Blackburn (relevant section begins at 1:12:20). "... I get to see things that you wouldn't be—you would be amazed at. I have a very young son who I look at some of the things he's watching and I say, 'How is that possible?'"

https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2018/03/trump-says-violent-games-are-ok-for-his-young-son-maybe-not-for-yours/

[mrwebb8825]

32 minutes ago, ilostmypassword said:

Really?

"The video games, movies, the Internet stuff is so violent," Trump said during the livestreamed meeting with lawmakers, in response to parental concerns passed on by Tennessee Republican Marsha Blackburn (relevant section begins at 1:12:20). "... I get to see things that you wouldn't be—you would be amazed at. I have a very young son who I look at some of the things he's watching and I say, 'How is that possible?'"

https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2018/03/trump-says-violent-games-are-ok-for-his-young-son-maybe-not-for-yours/

What a crock. The title is a made up lie and the single "Quoted" statement about a movie his son was watching was twisted around to make simple minds believe he was talking about video games.

Nice try though.