Chiang Rai governor… good but probably not good enough

[webfact]

Chiang Rai governor… good but probably not good enough

By Thai PBS

 

 

Chiang Rai Governor Narongsak Osotthanakorn has probably been the most visible figure throughout the 10 days of the painstaking search and rescue operation at Tham Luang cave in Chiang Rai province that gripped the whole nation.  He has become a darling of social media users who are impressed with his able and no-nonsense style of handling the situation which at times was chaotic and his clarify in explaining what was going on.

 

But even the publicity and outpouring of admirations of the past week are unlikely to be of much help for him as far as his career is concerned.   Shortly before the incident, Narongsak had been ordered to be transferred to nearby Phayao province.  In Thai bureaucracy, such transfer can only be seen as a downgrade since Chiang Rai is considered to be a much bigger province in term of sizes and economic importance.

 

Interior Minister Gen Anupong Paojinda  on Monday confirmed that Narongsak was ordered moved to Phayao because he had problems working with other governmental units in the province. He did not spell out what the problems were.

 

Full story: http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/chiang-rai-governorgood-probably-not-good-enough/

 

-- © Copyright Thai PBS 2018-07-03

[holy cow cm]

Is it that he is a true believer for the red color and so he is having his hand slapped for disloyalty to Big and Small p??

[Cadbury]

37 minutes ago, webfact said:

Chiang Rai Governor Narongsak has probably been the most visible figure throughout the 10 days of the painstaking search

Except when PM Prayut entered stage left to push him aside to claim the glory for a short time. 

 

41 minutes ago, webfact said:

He has become a darling of social media users who are impressed with his able and no-nonsense style of handling the situation

Congratulations go out to him. Obviously not one of those military types who are more inclined to bark out orders instead of actually getting on and doing something. In other words he is a practical person who can manage to get things done without the pomp and displays of self importance. Seems he also had the required communication skills to keep people politely and properly informed. Something sadly missing in the senior ranks of the junta.

He deserves a promotion, not a demotion.

[yrag]

He is supreme in my eyes apparently it be others that seek power and to belittle this man...

[yrag]

11 minutes ago, Cadbury said:

Except when PM Prayut entered stage left to push him aside to claim the glory for a short time. 

 

Congratulations go out to him. Obviously not one of those military types who are more inclined to bark out orders instead of actually getting on and doing something. In other words he is a practical person who can manage to get things done without the pomp and displays of self importance. Seems he also had the required communication skills to keep people politely and properly informed. Something sadly missing in the senior ranks of the junta.

He deserves a promotion, not a demotion.

He is supreme in my eyes apparently it be others that seek power and to belittle this man...

[Eric Loh]

He stole the limelight from the interior minister who should be in charge of the operation. The cowardly and incompetent Interior Minister Anupong should be transferred to an inactive post, not the governor. 

[snoop1130]

Prayut insists popular Chiang Rai governor will be transferred

 

 

Prime Minister Gen Prayut Chan-o-cha this afternoon reaffirmed the order to transfer the hugely popular Chiang Rai Governor Narongsak Osotthanakorn to nearby Phayao province.

 

He described Narongsak, who has become the face of the search and rescue operation to find the 12 missing young footballers and their coach over the past 10 days, as a good and well-intentioned bureaucrat. “Such a good and well-intentioned person can work anywhere,” he told a news conference after the weekly Cabinet meeting

 

He said Phayao is a province that needs more development and Narongsak is a good choice as its governor. “He has been told to do development work there,” he said, adding that the transfer is part of the annual bureaucratic reshuffle that takes place in September.

 

Full Story: http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/prayut-insists-popular-chiang-rai-governor-will-transferred/

 

-- © Copyright Thai PBS 2018-7-3

[Enoon]

 

There can be only one "Sun" in Thailand.

 

 

[yellowboat]

43 minutes ago, snoop1130 said:

“Such a good and well-intentioned person can work anywhere,”

Like government house in Bangkok.  He can replace that stodgy, old wet blanket that has been there far too long.

[kotsak]

I guess this article puts things in a perspective:

 

http://www.newmandala.org/myth-politics-thailands-cave-rescue-operation/

 

[Srikcir]

16 hours ago, snoop1130 said:

the transfer is part of the annual bureaucratic reshuffle that takes place in September.

Aren't governors usually elected except when the military junta is in power and Prayut uses Article 44 to remove governors as his personal discretion?

 

In fact wasn't the last elected governor Boonsong Techamaneesathit forcibly transferred in April 2017 to the PM's Office under Article 44 to be replaced by Prayut-appointed Narongsak Osotthanakorn?

 

Sorry if Narongsak was a "good" man as governor but he had no business being governor in the first place without a public mandate; rather he supported the NCPO by accepting Prayut's appointment and acted contrary to the principles of democratic governance.

[Sydebolle]

He stole the show from too many irrelevant-wannabe-important-bureaucrats ......  Hence the transfer will go through for the sake of showing who-is-who-on-the-banana-boat! 

[snoop1130]

Cave rescue saves Governor's job - at least for now

By Teeranai Charuvastra, Staff Reporter

 

Chiang Rai Gov. Narongsak Osottanakorn gestures to reporters Monday.

 

BANGKOK — When the public face of the largest rescue operation in recent Thai history gave his morning briefing to reporters, he took a moment to address questions about his own future.

 

“Let me confirm that the command structure here is still the same,” said Narongsak Osottanakorn, who holds degrees in geology and engineering. “I’m still the top supervisor, as usual.”

 

Full Story: http://www.khaosodenglish.com/news/crimecourtscalamity/2018/07/04/cave-rescue-saves-governors-job-at-least-for-now/

 

-- © Copyright Khaosod English 2018-7-4

[chama]

On 7/3/2018 at 2:39 AM, Cadbury said:

Except when PM Prayut entered stage left to push him aside to claim the glory for a short time. 

 

Congratulations go out to him. Obviously not one of those military types who are more inclined to bark out orders instead of actually getting on and doing something. In other words he is a practical person who can manage to get things done without the pomp and displays of self importance. Seems he also had the required communication skills to keep people politely and properly informed. Something sadly missing in the senior ranks of the junta.

He deserves a promotion, not a demotion.

Obviously he gets things done so he is a threat to Big P, so he must go. When the spotlight, and all glory, must go to another figure that has little to offer, working hard and getting things done will have bad personal results although those helped will benefit greatly.

[smedly]

Well it is his responsibility  for the health and safety of the people living under his area of responsibility so he has to take some (if not all)  of the blame for this tragic incident, access to highly dangerous underground cave structures such as these should be strictly managed especially during rain season

[Cadbury]

1 hour ago, smedly said:

Well it is his responsibility  for the health and safety of the people living under his area of responsibility so he has to take some (if not all)  of the blame for this tragic incident, access to highly dangerous underground cave structures such as these should be strictly managed especially during rain season

If you need to blame someone then OK, blame him. But in reality you know full well few of them have the skills to manage anything properly. He at least did a good job of managing the situation and keeping everyone informed. But it seems that's not good enough for you.

But let him take the rap if it makes you feel better. You would fit in nicely with the Thai hierarchy because that's exactly what they are likely to do. Demotion for him seems inevitable.

Hope you feel good about that.

[Jonmarleesco]

On 7/3/2018 at 2:02 PM, Eric Loh said:

He stole the limelight from the interior minister who should be in charge of the operation. The cowardly and incompetent Interior Minister Anupong should be transferred to an inactive post, not the governor. 

Like many others in government, he already is inactive. 

[smedly]

8 hours ago, Cadbury said:

If you need to blame someone then OK, blame him. But in reality you know full well few of them have the skills to manage anything properly. He at least did a good job of managing the situation and keeping everyone informed. But it seems that's not good enough for you.

But let him take the rap if it makes you feel better. You would fit in nicely with the Thai hierarchy because that's exactly what they are likely to do. Demotion for him seems inevitable.

Hope you feel good about that.

you know what is good enough for me - keeping people safe

 

They are already targeting the adult trainer in this situation but what does he know, there is a serious failure here, this very dangerous site and was not being managed and having personal experience of such places - they should not be open to the public....never.

 

 

and he managed nothing, he is now trying to vindicate himself,  he played absolutely no part in the rescue, that was down to experts not him.

 

you seem to be trying to somehow discredit my opinion on this matter but hey maybe I'm wrong and next rainy season they will be offering tours - I will personally buy you a season ticket for you and all your family - I wouldn't feel good about that but hey up to you....go for it, who is stopping you...………..oh well maybe someone should be stopping you

 

stick to what you know...……………………………………………………..

Edited July 4, 2018 by smedly

[Cadbury]

4 hours ago, smedly said:

you know what is good enough for me - keeping people safe

 

They are already targeting the adult trainer in this situation but what does he know, there is a serious failure here, this very dangerous site and was not being managed and having personal experience of such places - they should not be open to the public....never.

 

 

and he managed nothing, he is now trying to vindicate himself,  he played absolutely no part in the rescue, that was down to experts not him.

 

you seem to be trying to somehow discredit my opinion on this matter but hey maybe I'm wrong and next rainy season they will be offering tours - I will personally buy you a season ticket for you and all your family - I wouldn't feel good about that but hey up to you....go for it, who is stopping you...………..oh well maybe someone should be stopping you

 

stick to what you know...……………………………………………………..

You say he played no part in the rescue. Huh?? The rescue was a team effort which included him or didn't you realise. Just like the folks who cooked the meals and repaired the roads.

You must be about the only one who thinks he has done a lousy job. But then you often prefer to take the opposite to everyone else just for the sake argument.

Why don't you reply to this new story and tell everyone that in your opinion he was as good as useless.