BREAKING NEWS Fifth boy RESCUED from Tham Luang

[tukkytuktuk]

I saw on Thai TV that the operations are over for today and will resume tomorrow.

[Sheryl]

@ipasinetti 1m1 minute ago#ThamLuang #ถ้ำหลวง #ThaiCaveRescue #ThamLuangCave #ThailandCaveRescue the 6th and the 7th one transferred aboard of a bigger elicopter ready to be sent to the hospital

[NCC1701A]

Thai PBS showing large black military helicopter with two of the boys sitting on the ground with rotors turning for about 10 minutes. lifting off now.

Edited July 9, 2018 by NCC1701A

[Spock]

Just now, overherebc said:

And the news the ones before are ok builds confidence.

But weather conditions favoured bringing out the weakest first. And do you truly believe the boys would have been told about a mishap? The weakest first theory makes total sense to me. Rain may well make the final rescues far more difficult. 

[Sheryl]

@MattRiversCNN  Operations to remove the boys and their coach from the cave in northern Thailand have completed for the day, a source tells CNN. Operations likely to resume tomorrow. 8 out so far, 5 to go.

[Tug]

Those little wild boar are tough!go wild boar!!!my hats off to all involved praying for safty and continued success blessings to all tug

[Spock]

2 minutes ago, jerry921 said:

It could be that yesterday's press reports that the doctor in the cave chose to send them weakest first were incorrect.

It could also be that nobody happened to mention to the big boss that his plan got changed by the doctor in the cave.

 

It could well be what you say and could as easily be the complete opposite. Until we are officially informed of the official strategy, we are all seemingly just pissing into the wind.

[Get Real]

2 minutes ago, Sheryl said:

@MattRiversCNN  Operations to remove the boys and their coach from the cave in northern Thailand have completed for the day, a source tells CNN. Operations likely to resume tomorrow. 8 out so far, 5 to go.

Thanks for all the updates today. You have been a little hero to everybody that wants the real news, and not just listening to if the weak or strong are out first. All have to come out. That´s the important part of everything. Thanks again!

Edited July 9, 2018 by Get Real

[Mickmouse1]

 20.29 Brunei/Sgp time 19.29 thai;BBC still reporting 6th boy may have been taken out,unconfirmed report.I wonder what Dan Johnson is doing there as the BBC seems to give us poor quality news.Now as am typing They said BOYS now confirmed to have been taken out" ?

Waiting to hear that 13th person is now safely out.Mission Accomplished hopefully.

[tpazzi]

1 minute ago, fantom said:

In emergency evacuations normal proceedure is to bring out the fittest first. There are two very good reasons for this:

1 Allows learning and fine tuning procedures with easiest ones.

2 Reduces probability of a disabled person blocking the egress points early on.

I suspect the chances that additional rain would result in rising water levels along the route would have factored into the decision as well. 
 

[Peterw42]

2 minutes ago, Spock said:

But weather conditions favoured bringing out the weakest first. And do you truly believe the boys would have been told about a mishap? The weakest first theory makes total sense to me. Rain may well make the final rescues far more difficult. 

Yes that makes sense, bring the weak out while the task is still within the limits of their endurance, conditions get worse then the task is beyond the weak ones.

[tukkytuktuk]

[Get Real]

1 minute ago, Mickmouse1 said:

 20.29 Brunei/Sgp time 19.29 thai;BBC still reporting 6th boy may have been taken out,unconfirmed report.I wonder what Dan Johnson is doing there as the BBC seems to give us poor quality news.Now as am typing They said BOYS now confirmed to have been taken out" ?

Waiting to hear that 13th person is now safely out.Mission Accomplished hopefully.

What are you going on about??? The 8th boy has been rescued, and the operations continues tomorrow.

Edited July 9, 2018 by Get Real

[Spock]

6 minutes ago, Get Real said:

Thanks for all the updates today. You have been a little hero to everybody that wants the real news, and not just listening to if the weak or strong are out first. All have to come out. That´s the important part of everything. Thanks again!

But she did weigh in with an opinion on that subject. Just saying but ....

Edited July 9, 2018 by Spock
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[tpazzi]

1 minute ago, tukkytuktuk said:

Likely???   Have to wonder what exactly would prevent operations from resuming 

[Spock]

1 minute ago, Get Real said:

What are you going on about???

Maybe has access to some good drugs. 

[bkkcanuck8]

1 minute ago, tukkytuktuk said:

At the current rate, they will get another 4 out tomorrow and the coach after the rainy season ... 

[bkkcanuck8]

Just now, tpazzi said:

Likely???   Have to wonder what exactly would prevent operations from resuming 

RAIN and flash floods.

[Spidey]

6 minutes ago, gropes said:

And to protect the parents from any communicable infections that the boys may be carrying such as leptospirosis, histoplasmosis and / or melioidosis.

As someone who has been down a fair few pots in his youth, I can assure you that this is complete nonsense. Guano (bat droppings) and rats are only likely to be found in the cavern nearest to the cave entrance. The deeper you go into a cave system, the less signs of life you see, particularly if sections are difficult to pass. At 4 km in, unlikely to see any signs of organic life. Also, the water they were drinking had dripped from the walls of the cave. Rainwater filtered through a 1000 feet of limestone rock is the purest, cleanest water you are likely to ever consume. These guys were at much more risk of catching a communicable disease sat at home on the farm for the last 2 weeks than sat 4km into a cave system.

The quarantine issue is a red herring. Boys should have been reunited with their families immediately. Makes me wonder if other posters aren't correct in stating that they are being "saved" for a political opportunity for the generals.

[Artisi]

23 minutes ago, overherebc said:

My bottle of 20 years old single malt is getting closer to being opened.

Just a wee dramme for me - ok?

[Get Real]

1 minute ago, Spock said:

But she did weigh in with an opinion on that subject. Just saying but ....

Do you see it stands Global Moderator under the handle? Let´s just say that gives her that right. Now you can go sleep happy, and hopefully not say so much more.

[GBW]

5 minutes ago, Mickmouse1 said:

 20.29 Brunei/Sgp time 19.29 thai;BBC still reporting 6th boy may have been taken out,unconfirmed report.I wonder what Dan Johnson is doing there as the BBC seems to give us poor quality news.Now as am typing They said BOYS now confirmed to have been taken out" ?

Waiting to hear that 13th person is now safely out.Mission Accomplished hopefully.

I wont get my hopes too high, but how sure are you on this info?

[ttrd]

It doesnt look good...

 

https://www.accuweather.com/en/th/chiang-mai/317505/weather-forecast/317505

[jerry921]

1 minute ago, Spock said:

It could well be what you say and could as easily be the complete opposite. Until we are officially informed of the official strategy, we are all seemingly just pissing into the wind.

What I thought I said was that it could be either way. To that I'll add that they also don't have to be doing it strictly weakest or strongest first. They seem to be saving the coach for last, (kids before adult, I suppose) and he was one of the weakest.

[tpazzi]

1 minute ago, bkkcanuck8 said:

RAIN and flash floods.

good point,  I wasn't thinking it thru given the earlier weather conditions posted.   

[bkkcanuck8]

Just now, Spidey said:

As someone who has been down a fair few pots in his youth, I can assure you that this is complete nonsense. Guano (bat droppings) and rats are only likely to be found in the cavern nearest to the cave entrance. The deeper you go into a cave system, the less signs of life you see, particularly if sections are difficult to pass. At 4 km in, unlikely to see any signs of organic life. Also, the water they were drinking had dripped from the walls of the cave. Rainwater filtered through a 1000 feet of limestone rock is the purest, cleanest water you are likely to ever consume. These guys were at much more risk of catching a communicable disease sat at home on the farm for the last 2 weeks than sat 4km into a cave system.

The quarantine issue is a red herring. Boys should have been reunited with their families immediately. Makes me wonder if other posters aren't correct in stating that they are being "saved" for a political opportunity for the generals.

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Quarantine would be warranted if they are still in a weakened state... though I think the hospital would be the last place you would want to take them since it is likely a germ infested location ? 9 days of not eating then likely a few days of MERs.

[janclaes47]

13 minutes ago, GBW said:

22 minutes ago, Spidey said:

The leader of the rescue mission made it quite clear in a press conference, earlier today, that it's their policy to bring out the fittest and most able first.

The leader???? whats his/her  name?   

Fact! the first lad out was THE WEAKEST IN CONDITION.  So on and so on...............

Please keep up.

So i guess you are the leader on site then, because you know better than all the contradicting news reports.

 

Anyway, why is it so important to the armchair experts in this thread who came out first?

 

The only goal is to get them out all as soon as possible.

[Bung]

If I read another comment about if it was the weakest or strongest first my head will explode! 

[ttrd]

37 minutes ago, Sheryl said:

@ChannelNewsAsia 1m1 minute ago

JUST IN: An eighth person has been rescued from #ThamLuang cave complex, Reuters reports

Excellent, then they may Complete the mission tomorrow - 5 more to go!

Edited July 9, 2018 by ttrd

[Spock]

2 minutes ago, Get Real said:

Do you see it stands Global Moderator under the handle? Let´s just say that gives her that right. Now you can go sleep happy, and hopefully not say so much more.

I was quoting what I have read and been told as late as tonight on the live coverage. You said no opinion was offered on a subject which she did comment on. I have no problem whatsoever with her expressing an opinion - only that you said she did not.