July 24, 20187 yr Accused of assault, Wan ‘just doing what dads do’ By THE NATION POLITICIAN WAN UBUMRUNG TOLD reporters on Tuesday that “a sense of fatherly duty” drove him to assault his son’s rival outside a Bangkok pub on the night of April 23. He was granted unconditional temporary release in the assault case after posting Bt300,000 bail. The Southern Bangkok Criminal Court ordered him to report for another hearing on September 10. Before being brought before the judge as police applied for an initial 12-day detention extending through August 4, Wan made an “I love you” gesture with his fingers and told reporters, “I love my son. I have to perform my fatherly duty.” After securing release on bail, he declared, “I miss my son. I want to go back and hug him. Thanks, everyone, for your support,” and repeated his love gesture. The 44-year-old son of former deputy prime minister Chalerm Ubumrung surrendered to police on Monday in response to an arrest warrant over the alleged April 23 assault. Wan is accused of assaulting Panuwat Punnarattanakul, 34, son of a Mae Thong Suk gold-shop owner, outside the Demo pub in the Soi Thong Lor area. The Southern Bangkok Criminal Court on July 19 approved arrest warrants for Wan and his friend Yossapat Sampanchai. Following his surrender on Monday, Wan spent the night in detention, reportedly because police feared he might tamper with evidence. Police say Panuwat and his friends encountered Wan, Yossapat, Wan’s son Archawin “Kamo” Ubumrung and seven or eight other people outside the Demo. Wan allegedly wanted to talk to Panuwat about a dispute he’d had with Archawin in Singapore. Panuwat was punched several times in the face and floored, while Yossapat allegedly threatened Panuwat and his friends with a pistol and fired shots into the air to keep them at bay. Panuwat filed complaints with Thong Lor police and the Crime Suppression Division, claiming the case involved an “influential figure”. Panuwat was charged in August 2016 with carrying a gun into a Thong Lor restaurant, according to Pol Lt Colonel Ajiravedh Subarnbhesaj, then captain of the local precinct and among officers responding to the restaurant. He has commented on the case on his Facebook page. The pub showdown wasn’t the first involving members of the Ubumrung family. Chalerm’s youngest son Duang, then known as Duangchalerm, was a prime suspect in the murder of Crime Suppression Division detective Senior Sgt Maj Suwichai Rodwimut at the Twenty Club in Bangkok in 2001. He was ultimately acquitted by the criminal court, which considered the evidence against him insufficient and witness accounts contradictory. Source: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/detail/national/30350728 -- © Copyright The Nation 2018-7-24
July 24, 20187 yr Popular Post 14 minutes ago, snoop1130 said: Following his surrender on Monday, Wan spent the night in detention, reportedly because police feared he might tamper with evidence. No need for that, that would have already been well taken care of !
July 24, 20187 yr Popular Post 26 minutes ago, snoop1130 said: After securing release on bail, he declared, “I miss my son. I want to go back and hug him. Thanks, everyone, for your support,” and repeated his love gesture Awww. He just loves his son. Acts of violence should be pardoned when it’s done for love. This has made me go all teary eyed. Give this man a father-of-the-year award. Reminds me of when you meet an overbearing father who for someone reason likes to aggressively tell people, “I love my kids” like it’s not a common dynamic between parents and their kids. Like they should be applauded. Add to that when they feel the need to tell you, “if someone ever hurt my kids, I’d kill them”. Good to know, buddy. Don’t know why you’re telling me this. Sounds to be like you have anger issues and are looking for an excuse to inflict violence.
July 24, 20187 yr Popular Post 46 minutes ago, snoop1130 said: The pub showdown wasn’t the first involving members of the Ubumrung family. Shirley, all of them can't be overdosing on ear medicine? Edited July 24, 20187 yr by Darcula
July 24, 20187 yr 40 minutes ago, rkidlad said: “I love my kids” like it’s not a common dynamic between parents and their kids. Not so common these days. Single mom with 100% custody, dad not allowed to see them, and eventually dad doesn't care about them. One could argue mom doesn't care about them either, as she uses them as pawns in her 'husband hate' campaign. I think there's a lot of elderly old dinosaurs posting about how things once were, or how they would like things to be. That really doesn't bear much resemblance to reality. Most of those posters probably abandoned their kids (in all but name) when they moved to Thailand. I think it's great this guy went to bat for his son. Most of us wouldn't have bothered. Edited July 24, 20187 yr by BritManToo
July 24, 20187 yr Popular Post 18 minutes ago, holy cow cm said: Such a lovely family. So gentle, so sweet, so compassionate, loves his ssn but given his past hideous behaviors his son is quite possibly terrified of him. Leopards don't change their spots comes to mind... Edited July 24, 20187 yr by scorecard
July 24, 20187 yr Popular Post 8 hours ago, snoop1130 said: Chalerm’s youngest son Duang, then known as Duangchalerm, was a prime suspect in the murder of Crime Suppression Division detective Senior Sgt Maj Suwichai Rodwimut at the Twenty Club in Bangkok in 2001. Let's see if I can remember the facts correctly about this incident. In a crowded pub, an off duty policeman steps on someone's foot. The policeman is shot and killed. The shooter goes to Cambodia. The policeman's family is compensated. No reliable witnesses were found. The suspect returns to Thailand. The shooter gains employment as a gun instructor on the police department. Edited July 24, 20187 yr by missoura
July 25, 20187 yr Popular Post 13 hours ago, BritManToo said: Not so common these days. Single mom with 100% custody, dad not allowed to see them, and eventually dad doesn't care about them. One could argue mom doesn't care about them either, as she uses them as pawns in her 'husband hate' campaign. I think there's a lot of elderly old dinosaurs posting about how things once were, or how they would like things to be. That really doesn't bear much resemblance to reality. Most of those posters probably abandoned their kids (in all but name) when they moved to Thailand. I think it's great this guy went to bat for his son. Most of us wouldn't have bothered. You are joking aren't you? Went to bat for his son with a gun and seven or eight other people helping him, did you bother to read the article? "Police say Panuwat and his friends encountered Wan, Yossapat, Wan’s son Archawin “Kamo” Ubumrung and seven or eight other people outside the Demo. Wan allegedly wanted to talk to Panuwat about a dispute he’d had with Archawin in Singapore. Panuwat was punched several times in the face and floored, while Yossapat allegedly threatened Panuwat and his friends with a pistol and fired shots into the air to keep them at bay." So the father approached the victim mob-handed and instigated the assault, nothing to do with helping his son.
July 25, 20187 yr 7 hours ago, missoura said: Let's see if I can remember the facts correctly about this incident. In a crowded pub, an off duty policeman steps on someone's foot. The policeman is shot and killed. The shooter goes to Cambodia. The policeman's family is compensated. No reliable witnesses were found. The suspect returns to Thailand. The shooter gains employment as a gun instructor on the police department. Yes and these are the people who run a government in Thailand, the ones that make murders go away to help their children. Great I feel safe already. I wonder if Charlem Senior will be in the MP for the PTP again. Edited July 25, 20187 yr by robblok
July 25, 20187 yr 16 hours ago, snoop1130 said: Panuwat was charged in August 2016 with carrying a gun into a Thong Lor restaurant Obviously he should have left the gun outside.
July 25, 20187 yr 15 hours ago, BritManToo said: Not so common these days. Single mom with 100% custody, dad not allowed to see them, and eventually dad doesn't care about them. One could argue mom doesn't care about them either, as she uses them as pawns in her 'husband hate' campaign. I think there's a lot of elderly old dinosaurs posting about how things once were, or how they would like things to be. That really doesn't bear much resemblance to reality. Most of those posters probably abandoned their kids (in all but name) when they moved to Thailand. I think it's great this guy went to bat for his son. Most of us wouldn't have bothered. 'Most of those posters probably abandoned their kids (in all but name) when they moved to Thailand.' That would presumably include you?
July 25, 20187 yr 51 minutes ago, ratcatcher said: Like father, like son. Thugs you ban. Chalerms lads were a pair of scamps, I always confuse the killer with the motorcycle mafia guy. My bad.
July 25, 20187 yr ...so what has changed....??? ...policeman murdered before that...??? ...shocking to say the least...
July 25, 20187 yr 5 minutes ago, SOTIRIOS said: ...so what has changed....??? ...policeman murdered before that...??? ...shocking to say the least... What hasn't changed is the fact that Wan's brother Duangchalerm murdered the policeman at the nightclub m,any years ago. http://2bangkok.com/chalerm-and-the-brawling-brats-of-the-thai-elite.html Edited July 25, 20187 yr by ratcatcher
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