Safe way to get a criminal / warrent status on Thai citizen

[mkeebler]

I had a girlfriend for about 9 years in Thailand. Her ex used a bunch of marketing money, twice, which she is responsible for. Needless to say for the past 9 to 10 years she has been surviving, often without her kids with her, and having to be careful because there were original warrants out for her since she was the responsible party.

My question is:

She would like to know if a statute of limitations is going to be up soon on her and what the status of her condition shows in real time records. I have a copy of her I'd etc,  and all that so that I can do the checking but I need to know how to do that. A law firm in Thailand couldn't do it over the telephone or just check for me, they wanted her to come down and file a power of attorney, but she does not want to do that because she doesn't trust anyone there who could easily take money from the company to turn her in. She just wants a simple check done that can show the true status and when it might be up under a statute of limitations. How can I go about doing that?  Any help would be much appreciated and is very much needed at this time. Thanks

Edited August 21, 2018 by mkeebler

[tifino]

was she ever Charged?

[mkeebler]

7 minutes ago, tifino said:

was she ever Charged?

I know originally and through her sister there were like 13 warrants because there were a number of different small companies that she marketed for so the amount of money was broken up into smaller amounts amongst these different companies. But originally it amount to around a million baht.  If I was a rich guy I may have just helped her deal with that by letting the cash talk..... But I put her boys to school and all that..... She definitely has not had it easy because of the situation and her ex is definitely a loser, 9 years he wouldn't even cough up 300 baht for his son....

Edited August 21, 2018 by mkeebler
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[oxforddon]

Most larger police stations have the computer system link to the data base needed but you need some friendly help there to have them access it. 

[Kwasaki]

4 hours ago, mkeebler said:

A law firm in Thailand couldn't do it over the telephone or just check for me, they wanted her to come down and file a power of attorney, but she does not want to do that

Well sorry that would be the best to do unless she has some hidden agenda that you do not know about. 

[jackdd]

Open a new topic with title "Who has a wife/friend working at the police?", and ask who is able to look it up for you. If somebody responds give him her details in PM so they can look it up for you.

[seajae]

"Her ex used a bunch of marketing money, twice, which she is responsible for", I take it you mean he stole the money from her or used it for his own benefit, cant understand how she allowed this to happen twice though and why she never had him charged with theft or reported him to the police. Sounds like there is more involved in this especially if she refuses to use lawyers to follow it up for her, really have to wonder what else is in play, one million baht, thats a lot of money to allow to be used by another person twice, now wanting to get out of it by waiting till statute of limitations is up, she would have to be charged first for that, great way to get a million for nothing though , lot of assumptions can be made here with the lack of info

 

Edited August 21, 2018 by seajae

[mogandave]

Not sure about Thailand but I think that generally there is no statute of limitations on failure to appear.

[bosun]

Has she applied for a passport since this episode? A red flag will come up if there is an outstanding charge/ arrest warrant but they won’t action it at the office. Then she will at least have some idea where she stands.

[peterrabbit]

13 hours ago, Kwasaki said:

Well sorry that would be the best to do unless she has some hidden agenda that you do not know about. 

If it's that important to you get a Private Detective to check it out, especially Her version of the story as you could be in for a shock and find out that you have been told a load of BS. Do it on the QT without Her knowing.

[dbrenn]

Sounds like the beginning of a lifetime of trouble. 

[TSF]

2 hours ago, dbrenn said:

Sounds like the beginning of a lifetime of trouble. 

Agree entirely, I think the best advice for any farang living in Thailand, is keep right out of Thais affairs, especially their business/legal dealings. As foreigners we never really understand what's going on, especially when it's between families & past partners. 

[madusa]

6 hours ago, TSF said:

Agree entirely, I think the best advice for any farang living in Thailand, is keep right out of Thais affairs, especially their business/legal dealings. As foreigners we never really understand what's going on, especially when it's between families & past partners. 

 

6 hours ago, TSF said:

Agree entirely, I think the best advice for any farang living in Thailand, is keep right out of Thais affairs, especially their business/legal dealings. As foreigners we never really understand what's going on, especially when it's between families & past partners. 

Good advice TSF. Thais don't like Farangs who are wise , crafty and having foresight.

[TSF]

2 hours ago, madusa said:

 

Good advice TSF. Thais don't like Farangs who are wise , crafty and having foresight.

Yep, the "farang rue mark" ...they don't like them at all. 

[BTB1977]

She's a keeper. Marry that girl fast. Than she can change her name and no one will find her. 55555

[mkeebler]

Thanks.  I have known her and her boys for over 10 years now. I've lived over there for about a total of 4 years cumulatively. I know her family and I know her ex and he's worthless. She tried to get him to send a mere 300 Thai baht and he hummed and hawed and had a lot of excuses and never did see his boys in 10 years.  She was traveling marketer and she likes to work and she was trying to work two marketing companies at once, meaning if she went to a certain territory both companies might pay her hotel funds Etc, but somehow she needed her ex at that time too help her out because working two marketing jobs like that isn't something you're supposed to do, in the way she was doing it. So anyway he had access to the money but he had no Authority or legal rights or anything like that as far as the marketing companies were concerned and didn't know about him. He spent about 30,000 dollars US,  with a young girl in a casino like a lot of Thai guys do, her mom died she got a little money to use that to pay the company back. She foolishly forgave him once and and that doing it again. Her mistake for thinking you would change or not do that again. And he blew about $30,000.... I helped her boys through school, but I'm not a rich guy otherwise I would have just paid off the company or companies.... She seriously has not had a very easy time over the past 10 years. she's afraid if she uses her real ID or anything like that, or went in to talk to a lawyer that it would restart the entire statute of limitation period..    she also does not trust many Thai people knowing that given the opportunity they might just take a little money from the company and just backstabber by turning her in, which I believe her sister was trying to do.  Basically she just wants to find out her status without sticking her neck out....  Thanks for the suggestions.

Despite her needing to be very careful and renting places under her friend's name excetera, we've still been able to rent places together and travel around Thailand doing lots of very memorable things. She just wants to or hopes statute of limitations will pass if there is one, so she can safely work, and or come to the u.s...  She's a bit of a workaholic. Sounds like a larger police station would be the best bet

Edited September 26, 2018 by mkeebler
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[FritsSikkink]

She should have cooperated with the police and hand over her "ex who used the money twice" she was responsible for. Instead she has been hiding out. She is as guilty as the ex is. Now you will be guilty too of helping her to evade justice. 

[mkeebler]

On 8/23/2018 at 6:16 AM, BTB1977 said:

She's a keeper. Marry that girl fast. Than she can change her name and no one will find her. 55555

If the legal issue thing was over with I probably would after all we've been through. I actually know her very well and her dad actually works for the king of Thailand and I was the only one sleeping in the hospital, with her as he passed away.. .. the funeral was 7 days long, actually I think it was five, and I actually got to stand with the family inline dressed in black is the King's Daughter drove by with a huge wreath of flowers.  I've got hundreds of pictures and it was a privileged thing to be in, went to ayutthaya Thailand spread his ashes out into the river...... .....

[mkeebler]

8 minutes ago, FritsSikkink said:

She should have cooperated with the police and hand over her "ex who used the money twice" she was responsible for. Instead she has been hiding out. She is as guilty as the ex is. Now you will be guilty too of helping her to evade justice. 

His name was not actually on any papers regarding the marketing companies or working for them, so they wouldn't really care about him or she said that he took it. She's the responsible party with her name on the paperwork. A lot of time in there are the same way, meet a young girl and they'll totally forget about any previous family they had, won't have anything to do with them. They're lucky they don't have child support like the USA. She was just guilty of trying to work two jobs like people do in the USA...... Of course it is a little bit strange and screwy how they finagle marketing money in companies compared to the United States or Europe.

[Aussieroaming]

I read an article about a person being arrested 1 year before the statute of limittions came into force, which was quoted as 5 years. Good luck with it.

[Aussieroaming]

It isnt as clear cut as my previous post, please read this extrct from the criminal code

 

Section 98. Statute of Limitations for Crimes

 

If any person, convicted by the final judgment, has not yet undergone the punishment, or has not completely undergone the punishment on account of having made an escape, and such person is not brought to undergo the punishment till the following periods of time reckoning from the day of the final judgment, or the day on which the offender has made the escape, as the case may be, the execution of punishment shall be precluded by prescription, and the punishment shall not be inflicted upon such person:

1. After twenty years in case of a sentence to death, to imprisonment for life or to imprisonment of twenty years;
2. After fifteen years in case of a sentence to imprisonment of over seven years but not up to twenty years;
3. After ten years in case of a sentence to imprisonment of over one year up to seven years;
4. After five years in case of a sentence to imprisonment of one year downwards or any other punishment.