webfact Posted September 14, 2018 Share Posted September 14, 2018 Agriculture minister says paraquat cannot be banned now Agriculture Minister Grisada Boonrach said he is ready to ban the use of three dangerous substances namely paraquat, glyphosate and chlorpyrifos in agriculture if this is legally permissible. Although the three dangerous chemicals cannot be legally banned now, he, however, said that import of the three chemicals had been substantially cut down to 13,000 tonnes from 50,000-60,000 tonnes and that the use of these chemicals had been limited to certain crops and in certain areas. The minister explained that the three chemicals could not be immediately phased out because many farmers have been using them in their cultivation due to its low cost and effectiveness in pest control. Full story: http://www.thaipbsworld.com/agriculture-minister-says-paraquat-cannot-be-banned-now/ -- © Copyright Thai PBS 2018-09-14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinneil Posted September 14, 2018 Share Posted September 14, 2018 Agricultural minister says paraquat cannot be banned, because he will lose loads of dosh if iit is banned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cadbury Posted September 14, 2018 Share Posted September 14, 2018 10 minutes ago, webfact said: Agriculture minister says paraquat cannot be banned now Totally predictable outcome. Chemical companies, politicians and senior civil servants can continue to line their pockets at the expense of those exposed to these chemicals. Thailand will never change; corruption and personal selfishness reigns supreme. People's welfare comes last. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatOngo Posted September 14, 2018 Share Posted September 14, 2018 15 minutes ago, webfact said: the use of these chemicals had been limited to certain crops and in certain areas. Over 1700 deaths in the past 3 years from toxic farm chemicals, I guess now the deaths will only be certain people in certain areas! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vacuum Posted September 14, 2018 Share Posted September 14, 2018 21 minutes ago, webfact said: the three dangerous chemicals cannot be legally banned now, The minister explained that the three chemicals could not be immediately phased out because many farmers have been using them in their cultivation due to its low cost and effectiveness in pest control. What has low cost to do anything with this? If they are dangerous to the consumers, just ban them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YetAnother Posted September 14, 2018 Share Posted September 14, 2018 26 minutes ago, webfact said: The minister explained that the three chemicals could not be immediately phased out because many farmers have been using them in their cultivation due to its low cost and effectiveness in pest control. typical thai logic; about the same as saying guns cannot be banned because criminals need them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spidey Posted September 14, 2018 Share Posted September 14, 2018 5 minutes ago, PatOngo said: Over 1700 deaths in the past 3 years from toxic farm chemicals, I guess now the deaths will only be certain people in certain areas! Correct. Why should they care if a couple of thousand Red Shirt supporters succumb? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatOngo Posted September 14, 2018 Share Posted September 14, 2018 27 minutes ago, Spidey said: Correct. Why should they care if a couple of thousand Red Shirt supporters succumb? Or anyone earning less than 5 million baht per year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lupatria Posted September 14, 2018 Share Posted September 14, 2018 5 hours ago, colinneil said: Agricultural minister says paraquat cannot be banned, because he will lose loads of dosh if iit is banned. ...and his accumulated dividends from the manufacturers will only be paid out once a year. Unfortunately in August next year that is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
from the home of CC Posted September 14, 2018 Share Posted September 14, 2018 they have to wait till the 5000 death plateau. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khun Paul Posted September 14, 2018 Share Posted September 14, 2018 Why thankyou Mr Minister for being responsible from now on for all deaths relating to these pesticides. I hope you sleep well, my Thai family thanks you for your concern…………...Lack of !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oziex1 Posted September 14, 2018 Share Posted September 14, 2018 If you won't discontinue the use of these substances, then for goodness sake educate the users in the safe, economic and efficient use of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurtf Posted September 14, 2018 Share Posted September 14, 2018 Truly ridiculous reasoning. Can’t ban them because they are so effective for pest control. Only problem is.....they aren’t pesticides. They are weed and grass killers. Idiotic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tso310 Posted September 14, 2018 Share Posted September 14, 2018 Amazing Thailand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tso310 Posted September 14, 2018 Share Posted September 14, 2018 Are the farmers fully aware of the risks and have they been advised about covering their body when using and washing themselves after ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fullcave Posted September 14, 2018 Share Posted September 14, 2018 3 hours ago, from the home of CC said: they have to wait till the 5000 death plateau. No way of tracking the death count. It's accumulative, someone gets cancer and dies end of story. You can't prove it was the chemicals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
from the home of CC Posted September 14, 2018 Share Posted September 14, 2018 3 minutes ago, fullcave said: No way of tracking the death count. It's accumulative, someone gets cancer and dies end of story. You can't prove it was the chemicals. That's what they used to tell us at the Esso refinery where I worked, lot of my co workers never made it to the age of 65 - cancer saved the company a lot in retirement payout benefits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zzaa09 Posted September 14, 2018 Share Posted September 14, 2018 9 hours ago, colinneil said: Agricultural minister says paraquat cannot be banned, because he will lose loads of dosh if iit is banned. The bottom line, ain't it? When in doubt, follow the intuitive profit motive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
connda Posted September 14, 2018 Share Posted September 14, 2018 9 hours ago, webfact said: The minister explained that the three chemicals could not be immediately phased out because many farmers have been using them in their cultivation due to its low cost and effectiveness in pest control. That's not a reason to not ban them. That's a weak excuse used to deflect blame while embracing dangerous substance that should be outlawed. Which means that the corporations producing this stuff has more control over the government than the government (looking out for the welfare of the citizens) have over the corporations. Follow the money... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xylophone Posted September 14, 2018 Share Posted September 14, 2018 9 hours ago, Cadbury said: Totally predictable outcome. Chemical companies, politicians and senior civil servants can continue to line their pockets at the expense of those exposed to these chemicals. Thailand will never change; corruption and personal selfishness reigns supreme. People's welfare comes last. It is not only Thailand that succumbs to big company pressure, graft and crooked politicians. Read these articles and be saddened...….. https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-27373134 https://www.dw.com/en/increasing-number-of-deaths-due-to-glyphosate/a-19183357 http://www.i-sis.org.uk/argentinasRoundupHumanTragedy.php https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4756530/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amdy2206 Posted September 14, 2018 Share Posted September 14, 2018 What sn amazing statement. It just shows how much Thailanđ is a 3rd world country. Most civilised countries banned it years ago, but Thailand, as usual, know best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imcagr Posted September 14, 2018 Share Posted September 14, 2018 8 hours ago, tso310 said: Are the farmers fully aware of the risks and have they been advised about covering their body when using and washing themselves after ? Mostly farmers are not interested to know anything but how much cost the new pickup that they want to buy... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redline Posted September 14, 2018 Share Posted September 14, 2018 So stop arresting people for drugs as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zzaa09 Posted September 14, 2018 Share Posted September 14, 2018 8 hours ago, amdy2206 said: What sn amazing statement. It just shows how much Thailanđ is a 3rd world country. Most civilised countries banned it years ago, but Thailand, as usual, know best. On the contrary, most of your so called civilised countries still allow it's usage freely. You might check again and update your "facts". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunderhill Posted September 14, 2018 Share Posted September 14, 2018 20 hours ago, PatOngo said: Over 1700 deaths in the past 3 years from toxic farm chemicals, I guess now the deaths will only be certain people in certain areas! 24000 a year on the roads, some perspective I guess. Its the idiots using the stuff who are killing themselves, once again laws will be brought in because of these morons who spray with no proper equipment, who mix it "stronger" thinking it will work better, who leave the empty cans lying in the fields or tip it down the drains etc etc. The morons in society bring these rules on everyone else! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prairieboy Posted September 14, 2018 Share Posted September 14, 2018 21 hours ago, webfact said: Agriculture Minister Grisada Boonrach ....explained that the three chemicals could not be immediately phased out because many farmers have been using them in their cultivation due to its low cost and effectiveness in pest control. It makes one wonder if the honourable minister has ever been out of the city limits. Perhaps he should get out in the paddies and apply these chemicals wearing the standard Thai safety equipment. (Flip flops and a dust mask!) BTW herbicides are not used for pest control! (Although some weeds and grasses are pesky!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotchilli Posted September 14, 2018 Share Posted September 14, 2018 14 hours ago, Oziex1 said: If you won't discontinue the use of these substances, then for goodness sake educate the users in the safe, economic and efficient use of them. the three chemicals could not be immediately phased out because many farmers have been using them in their cultivation due to its low cost and effectiveness in pest control. This is the reason why no education will change the way farmers use the chemicals... Tell them to use the correct amounts and they will always add a bit more for good luck... tell them to spray once only and they will spray 3 times to make sure ! you can't educate the un-educatable!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bkkthebest Posted September 15, 2018 Share Posted September 15, 2018 12 minutes ago, hotchilli said: the three chemicals could not be immediately phased out because many farmers have been using them in their cultivation due to its low cost and effectiveness in pest control. Is that pest control or Thai population control? I can't see the difference in that. Is he going to make a sincere effort to phase it out if it is not immediate? So at the moment, the Thais will just keep on having pesticide load on their body to a even higher level and die from it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron19 Posted September 15, 2018 Share Posted September 15, 2018 15 hours ago, Kurtf said: Truly ridiculous reasoning. Can’t ban them because they are so effective for pest control. Only problem is.....they aren’t pesticides. They are weed and grass killers. Idiotic. "The minister explained that the three chemicals could not be immediately phased out because many farmers have been using them in their cultivation due to its low cost and effectiveness in pest control." I don't believe this minister could make a statement like this. All it does is prove how little he knows about chemicals such as Paraquat seeing it is not a pesticide but a herbicide. Perhaps I should send him the details of what I went through 12 months ago (not from spraying) and now with a more serious condition attributed to Paraquat poisoning. Another thing that I have seen is whole areas sown with Soy beans being sprayed with chemicals such as the 3 mentioned to kill off the plants before harvesting, brilliant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xylophone Posted September 15, 2018 Share Posted September 15, 2018 4 hours ago, gunderhill said: Its the idiots using the stuff who are killing themselves, once again laws will be brought in because of these morons who spray with no proper equipment, who mix it "stronger" thinking it will work better, who leave the empty cans lying in the fields or tip it down the drains etc etc. The morons in society bring these rules on everyone else! Read up on the aerial spraying that has taken place in Argentina and which, it is claimed, has seriously affected and killed many. Monsanto has big bucks and clout in the industry and finds doctors and scientists who put the unusually high number of cancer cases down to the "cluster" phenomenon...………….strange that these "clusters" occur where most of the spraying is done? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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