Merkel's Bavarian allies humbled in historic election setback

[roobaa01]

10 minutes ago, welovesundaysatspace said:

 

 “state specific topics”? Weren’t you the one who compared Bavaria results with Schleswig-Holstein, Hamburg and Lower-Saxonia? So what are those “state specific topics” that made 2.2% vote less for AfD than did in the last general election?

those similarities in fw and afd program, those topics stolen from the afd by soeder.

 

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[welovesundaysatspace]

1 minute ago, roobaa01 said:

those similarities in fw and afd program, those topics stolen from the afd by soeder.

That doesn’t answer my question. 

[blazes]

1 hour ago, bristolboy said:

Except that the AFD's share of the vote actually decreased since the general election. Seems more like momentum in reverse to me.

A bit desperate, Squire.

[Sir Dude]

Merkel has been in power too long and has lost the plot...time for new blood in Germany. TBH, can't believe Germany doesn't have a limit on PM or Presidential terms (UK too)...that's banana republic stuff really. 

[micmichd]

20 hours ago, Spidey said:

Do tell, when did the Germans attack you?

Ever since I returned from Asia in 1970. 

I was only a few days in Heidelberg when the first German got a gun against my friends and me. 

Last time they attacked me was in 2013 when I was about to go to Thailand.  Because I refused to comply with their nanny state rules, and even refused to talk to them when they started an inquisition.

Only a couple of days before I finally left some of the more sophisticated Germans admitted what they were actually after: my money. The money that I had worked for in a multinational global company, yet the Germans claimed it was their property. 

[micmichd]

13 hours ago, welovesundaysatspace said:

That doesn’t answer my question. 

FW is a landlords' party, stands for the untouchability of private real estate which is responsible for the crisis in affordable housing in Munich.

If the AfD supports this landlords' untouchability in their program then this will be certainly against the interest of their followers. Unless they manage to exclude some minorities from affordable housing, ie "only native real Germans get a right to live in Germany, and we decide who a real German is" 

Sounds familiar to you? 

[DM07]

Not sure, why are known right wing friend rejoice about this result!

The CSU and Mr. Seehofer ran a hardline, anti- immigrant campaign.

One might think, that might have cost them some votes, no?!

And with a rock- hard conservative state like Bavaria, I am more surprised, the AfD only comes in that low!

Also not very promising for the right wing- friends.

 

And what Mother Angela has to to with all this, I am also not too clear about!

In Seehofer, one of her biggest rivals got slapped hard across the face- she might not be too sad about that! 

[JemJem]

Nice to see the Greens achieve a remarkable result.

 

But, sad to see Die Linke fall below the 5 percent threshold.

[JemJem]

Blazes, why the negative emoji ? I am a leftist, so my comment was in line with my ideology.

 

I especially like die Linke because it clearly takes a stand against Erdogan and his Islamofascist regime. I am Turkish, and I am very sad to see the direction my country is heading.

[bristolboy]

18 hours ago, blazes said:

A bit desperate, Squire.

If by desperate you mean factual, I agree. You're the one who invoked momentum. Once again, the AFD's share of the vote in Bavaria actually declined from the general election. If Bavarians are as incensed as you believe they are about immigration, why the decline?

[roobaa01]

4 hours ago, bristolboy said:

If by desperate you mean factual, I agree. You're the one who invoked momentum. Once again, the AFD's share of the vote in Bavaria actually declined from the general election. If Bavarians are as incensed as you believe they are about immigration, why the decline?

because of fw party programm similarities to the afd party programm, fw party took 170000 voters and afd took 180000 voters from the csu. fw and afd were in direct competition to each other. 

 

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[roobaa01]

afd achieved on sunday to obtain 30000 labourer votes from the socialist loosers spd, whereas in total the unhinged german left wing party mob obtained 27.2 %  versus right wing total vote of csu 37.4, fw 11.6, afd 10.2 % = 59.2 %  portrays a clear picture , which says no to political left wing distortion .

 

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[welovesundaysatspace]

7 hours ago, roobaa01 said:

afd achieved on sunday to obtain 30000 labourer votes from the socialist loosers spd

“achieved”? Only 30,000 you should add: 230,000 SPD voters changed to the Green; 150,000 voted for CSU; 80,000 to FW. The SPD actually lost more voters because they died or moved to a different state (130,000 total). The biggest moves happened in the center. 

 

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whereas in total the unhinged german left wing party mob obtained 27.2 %  versus right wing total vote of csu 37.4, fw 11.6, afd 10.2 % = 59.2 %  portrays a clear picture , which says no to political left wing distortion .

You don’t have much clue about German politics. There is only one party that could be considered “left wing” which is Die Linke. They failed to reach the 5% needed. 

 

There is only one true right wing party which is AfD. They got 10.2% thus -2.2. 

 

Then there are conservatives (CSU, FW), liberals (FDP), Green Party and social Democrats. Maybe check here: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_political_parties_in_Germany

 

All these parties clearly said they will not work together with AfD, which should show you how isolated these extremists are. No one considers them a serious Democratic Party that anyone would work with, in every state and in the Bundestag. 

 

What even became clear is that the conservative CSU lost votes because it tried to copy certain AfD positions (immigration) whereas the Green Party heavily won because it was the only party that didn’t join the annoying scaremongering about refugees and immigrants but actually offered positions that people actually care about because it really affects their life.

 

 

[roobaa01]

und im himmel ist jahrmarkt =happiness and fun fair in heaven the greens are moral left wing faschist with communist shit heads in their ranks like kretschmann, baerbock, goering-eckardt etc. everywhere in germany where they participate in governments in germny education goes down the drain. afd is german wide represented by 18 %¿ approx. 12 million people in the east of germany averagely afd party is 30 %. any gruene koerner fresser = green seed munchers with their chicken brain have nothing to offer.

 

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[bristolboy]

9 hours ago, roobaa01 said:

afd achieved on sunday to obtain 30000 labourer votes from the socialist loosers spd, whereas in total the unhinged german left wing party mob obtained 27.2 %  versus right wing total vote of csu 37.4, fw 11.6, afd 10.2 % = 59.2 %  portrays a clear picture , which says no to political left wing distortion .

 

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roobaa01

Because before this election Bavaria had been a stronghold of socialism?

And the Free Voters actually do support some programs opposed by CSU that could only be described as socialist.

[welovesundaysatspace]

50 minutes ago, roobaa01 said:

 afd is german wide represented by 18 %¿ approx. 12 million people

Less than 6 Million Germans according to the last general election, which would be 7.5%. 92.5% Germans didn’t vote for AfD. 

 

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any gruene koerner fresser = green seed munchers with their chicken brain have nothing to offer.

Thanks for confirming what kind of people you and your fascist friends are. And btw: Looking at your poor language and spelling I’d be careful talking about other peoples’ brains. 

 

[bristolboy]

1 hour ago, welovesundaysatspace said:

Less than 6 Million Germans according to the last general election, which would be 7.5%. 92.5% Germans didn’t vote for AfD. 

 

Thanks for confirming what kind of people you and your fascist friends are. And btw: Looking at your poor language and spelling I’d be careful talking about other peoples’ brains. 

 

His comments are objectionable but that's no reason to cast aspersions on his English. He's clearly not a native English speaker. Occasionally I get lucky and don't understand what he's on about. But most times his English is adequate to the task.

[roobaa01]

3 hours ago, welovesundaysatspace said:

Less than 6 Million Germans according to the last general election, which would be 7.5%. 92.5% Germans didn’t vote for AfD. 

 

Thanks for confirming what kind of people you and your fascist friends are. And btw: Looking at your poor language and spelling I’d be careful talking about other peoples’ brains. 

 

we are not talking about the last election, we are talking about today insa 18 % afd second strongest party in germany. hessian parliament is next for the afd to be conquered with 13 %. thereto afd will distant itself from the neo nazis publicly in order to prepare for government participation in saxonia, thueringen etc..in 2019. the ultimate patriot hoecke has commenced to distant himself from the neo nazis and gedeon will be chucked out. having said afd is getting rid of  unsuitable members, green faschists like harbeck, meatloaf roth , baerbock, antonie hofreiter do not distant themselves from radical violent anti fascist groups. gruene sind wohlstandsverwahrloste schmarotzer = greens are the society's well-off destituted leeches. for yr info im wearing kippa.

 

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[welovesundaysatspace]

7 hours ago, roobaa01 said:

afd will distant itself from the neo nazis publicly in order to prepare for government participation in saxonia, thueringen etc..in 2019. the ultimate patriot hoecke has commenced to distant himself from the neo nazis (...) for yr info im wearing kippa.

“Hitler and the National Socialists are just bird shit in 1,000 years of successful German history,” AfD lawmaker Alexander Gauland.

 

The German government's top integration official, Aydan Özoguz, could be "disposed of in Anatolia", said Alexander Gauland. 

 

"We Germans are the only nation in the world to have planted a monument of shame in the heart of their capital". AfD leader Björn Hoecke about the holocaust Memorial in Berlin. 

 

Germans should be "proud" of their soldiers in both world wars, said Alexander Gauland: “We have the right to be proud of our soldier’s achievements in two world wars.“

 

Jewish organizations are warning about the AfD, saying “This alternative is not kosher. It’s a dangerous right-wing populist party (...) putting on a mask of ‘we are Jewish-friendly,' but it is really trying to use German's Jews for self-promotion.”

 

So tell me: How exactly do those people “will distant itself from the neo nazis publicly” and what exactly does your kippa has to do with them? Could it be that you’re such an islamophob that you don’t even care if it’s Nazis that you cooperate with?

 

 Anyone seeing any parallels?