webfact Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 Not again! Jail threat to foreign graffiti artists at Chiang Mai cave Chiang Mai authorities are furious that a cave has been ruined by graffiti from foreign tourists. They have threatened to prosecute and seek jail terms for anyone who is caught. The latest damage comes to Thailand's nature after teens from Liverpool and Canada spray-painted a historic wall in the northern Thai city. Chiang Mai News reported that foreign names were inscribed on a cave at the Mok Fa waterfall in the beautiful Doi Suthep - Pui national park. The park authorities message was clear and unequivocal to tourists - "Don't or you'll be jailed". Though they admitted that a lack of staff meant they would find it hard to find the miscreants. Names such as "Tom", "Sian", "Louise" and "Sam" were clearly visible along with other scrawls. Last week the Liverpool man attempted to write the word "scouser" at the Tha Pae gate. Source: Chiang Mai News -- © Copyright Thai Visa News 2018-10-30 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just1Voice Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 People who do this should be caught, and given the maximum sentence possible, then banned for life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torrens54 Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 Dish out penalties such as apply in Singapore. Use the RATTAN CANE on these Foreing Scum Bags and ensure it gets WORLD WIDE PUBLICITY to discourage similar activities by other “Morons.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phetpeter Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 At least when I was a kid the worst we did was to steal some chalk from school and use it, perhaps because we knew it could be washed off! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer90210 Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 Put CCTV on all such sites, all over the country. The young teenate and post teenage brainless turds from the west (or even perhaps from Thailand) need close monitoring and appropriate severe punishment if caught, as that is the only language these generations can understand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammieuk1 Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 Defacing Thailand is a reserved occupation there a whole government department dedicated to it ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CALSinCM Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 I can show you a number of places in Chiang Mai that are predominately tagged by Thais. This is not a farang only issue although the media is framing this a exactly that. But how often do we hear of a BIB manhunt for Thai graffiti artists in the media? I can't think of any, but correct me if I'm off base. If Thailand wished to be proactive, they would pass out a brochure listing all the stupid things that farangs and foreigners often do while visiting that will get them into trouble as well as spelling out the fines and jail times for each - and then have each passenger sign that they understand before they disembark their plane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PREM-R Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 6 minutes ago, observer90210 said: Put CCTV on all such sites, all over the country. The young teenate and post teenage brainless turds from the west (or even perhaps from Thailand) need close monitoring and appropriate severe punishment if caught, as that is the only language these generations can understand. Nothing new under the sun...... This was done to a cave in Lascaux in France..... 20,000 years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hansnl Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 16 minutes ago, gunderhill said: And shot, hung drawn and quartered and then fed to dogs/ crocodiles , their ashes thrown down the toilet. Id be asking if Thai graffiti dawbers receive the same sentence as Thai Graffiti is EVERYWHERE Where? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksidedog Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 While I dont condone criminal damage of any description, It would be nice to see the punishment fit the crime. 10 years in prison is the maximum for this I believe, while murderers can often get much less. Plus foreigners do seem to get singled out for it, when there is a lot of it in Thai all over the place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mauGR1 Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 So, there are plenty of thieves and criminals and fraudsters walking free, and the concern is about some tourists writing names on a rock..ok.. the mind boggles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GAZZPA Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 3 hours ago, observer90210 said: Put CCTV on all such sites, all over the country. The young teenate and post teenage brainless turds from the west (or even perhaps from Thailand) need close monitoring and appropriate severe punishment if caught, as that is the only language these generations can understand. Punishment should fit the crime, simple as that, make them pay to have it cleaned, fine them and move on. It's just some graffiti after all, nobody is hurt. Such a big deal about such small things, the news is so tedious and so anti foreigner it is scary. There is graffiti by locals everywhere and I have never seen it hit the news, not ever. when do we ever see some real arrests for serious crime or arrests for the clamp down on corruption, or the solving of murders. Instead we see anti foreign sentiment coming to the election season, feeding the xenophobic nation with populist policies of how they are springing into action tackling those "terrible" foreigners. Sorry, but people like you lap it up and contribute to it. Very sad,,, rant over... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denim Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 Someone should sneak into a cave and write Prayuth and Prawits name somewhere prominent. Add Sutheps for good measure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksidedog Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 Some totally off topic posts and replies have been removed. Please stay on subject. Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vogie Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 25 minutes ago, PREM-R said: Nothing new under the sun...... This was done to a cave in Lascaux in France..... 20,000 years ago. Have they caught the offenders yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unamazedloso Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 I thought foreigners dont really go to national parks because of racist pricing. Maybe im wrong and im sorry to say that many thais graffiti in english. My ex loved to draw graphitti, tattos and such. She always tagged in english. She wasnt a graphitti artist spraying up the place but deep in all arty farty stuff... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunroaming Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 Looks like it was scratched on and a bit of creative covering up will do until it fades with time. Yes they were stupid morons for doing it but there are an awful lot of stupid morons out there. Not so much an intentional act of vandalism, rather a pathetic attempt to literally leave their mark. A suitable fine and a ban from returning to Thailand for a few years should be a sufficient price for these idiots to pay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soalbundy Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 where's Banksy when you need him? He might have to write 'boing' several times though for them to understand his art. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CALSinCM Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 36 minutes ago, mauGR1 said: So, there are plenty of thieves and criminals and fraudsters walking free, and the concern is about some tourists writing names on a rock..ok.. the mind boggles. But - it's a 1.8 billion year old "Thai rock" that was disfigured!. The horror! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
British Bulldog Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 Its sad this Graffiti business, I've lived in South East Asia for 26 years (residing in Vientiane), now generally speaking "Ouote" ... Generally Speaking, there is very little Graffiti painted around Asia and Thailand, yeah, some ... but a fraction what you see in Western Countries, along with the Theft of Vehicles, they are stolen in Thailand for financial gain, in other Countries, Australia in particular, they are stolen for joy rides, burning out the tires, blowing up the motors and finally dumped in a canal or river, trashing somebodies office for no reason doesn't 'generally' happen here, when a mate of mine had his office in Soi 24 trashed, immediately all his associates said" Ohhh Ohhh who has he upset, .... he claimed nobody ... then it came out that he won a small claims case in court about a month ago against a Thai Business man .... we all sighed ... "arrhh ... that was it ... we were worried that the trait's of the white man had come to Bangkok" ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PREM-R Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 24 minutes ago, vogie said: Have they caught the offenders yet? As I understand it 'Big Joke' has commandeered the entire first class cabin of a Thai Air A380 and will be taking his team over to France as soon as possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardColeman Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 Quick, someone go scribble Prayut on the wall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlieH Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 Troll comments and responses removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeilSA1 Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 38 minutes ago, vogie said: Have they caught the offenders yet? They changed their clothes, language and identities... very clever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
upu2 Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 54 minutes ago, Denim said: Someone should sneak into a cave and write Prayuth and Prawits name somewhere prominent. Add Sutheps for good measure. In Thai of course Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunderhill Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 1 hour ago, hansnl said: Where? Try BKK just for for starters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexRich Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 Is mad mental Lee out on bail? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave moir Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 1 hour ago, CALSinCM said: I can show you a number of places in Chiang Mai that are predominately tagged by Thais. This is not a farang only issue although the media is framing this a exactly that. But how often do we hear of a BIB manhunt for Thai graffiti artists in the media? I can't think of any, but correct me if I'm off base. If Thailand wished to be proactive, they would pass out a brochure listing all the stupid things that farangs and foreigners often do while visiting that will get them into trouble as well as spelling out the fines and jail times for each - and then have each passenger sign that they understand before they disembark their plane. Exactly never hear of Thais doing wrong! As you say there's graffiti all over Chiang Mai and yes it lowers the tone of the place and again it's not just farangs!???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexRich Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 24 minutes ago, British Bulldog said: Its sad this Graffiti business, I've lived in South East Asia for 26 years (residing in Vientiane), now generally speaking "Ouote" ... Generally Speaking, there is very little Graffiti painted around Asia and Thailand, yeah, some ... but a fraction what you see in Western Countries, along with the Theft of Vehicles, they are stolen in Thailand for financial gain, in other Countries, Australia in particular, they are stolen for joy rides, burning out the tires, blowing up the motors and finally dumped in a canal or river, trashing somebodies office for no reason doesn't 'generally' happen here, when a mate of mine had his office in Soi 24 trashed, immediately all his associates said" Ohhh Ohhh who has he upset, .... he claimed nobody ... then it came out that he won a small claims case in court about a month ago against a Thai Business man .... we all sighed ... "arrhh ... that was it ... we were worried that the trait's of the white man had come to Bangkok" ! Out of interest, how did you manage to stay in Vientiane? I’d like to do that, I really liked the place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joecoolfrog Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 2 hours ago, Just1Voice said: People who do this should be caught, and given the maximum sentence possible, then banned for life. Wow tough justice ! I wonder what you would propose for those who seize the country at gunpoint , restrict human rights , cancel elections etc ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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