Should anybody who associates with “America deserved 9/11”or sympathizers sympathetic to terror regimes be allowed near the event ,remembering 9/11 victims in NYC.

Big remembrance coming for the victims of the largest Terror attack on my country. it’s 25 years while the anti America , anti semitic propaganda that supports/ sympathizes with Terror are promoting to cast doubt on our country with their Marxist, Leninist Maoist ideology.Take this symposium for example coming out of a very progressive institution, there objective is all one sided , international law, migration, race, surveillance, policing.while dismissing safety of a sovereign country built on traditional principles of law, order & assimilation.

“This symposium brings together legal scholars, practitioners, and others from across various disciplines to examine the enduring legacies of 9/11; the ways the legal and political architecture of the post-9/11 era continues to shape contemporary debates about race, migration, surveillance, war, technology, policing, and international law; and think collectively about how to chart a better path forward”.

https://law.ucla.edu/25-years-after-9/11-symposium

https://www.cbs19news.com/mamdani-critics-want-to-bar-him-sept-11-ceremonies/article_afbb1cd8-6ee9-58df-91ba-5ccec757baee.html

The story is based on a cbs19 news & UCLA symposium report

A replay of "Loose Change" would be interesting.

It's biggest debunker was 'Popular Mechanics' - a low brow magazine akin to puffs like Home and Garden - a sort of Mad Magazine for lego enthusiasts.

The 25th anniversary should be used to call for a proper 9/11 inquiry. The victims' families deserve that. America deserves that. So does the world, because George Dubaya's wars of false pretences killed millions. Cheney and Rumsfeld are traitors and war criminals.

16 minutes ago, ronnie50 said:

The 25th anniversary should be used to call for a proper 9/11 inquiry

Agree 100 % but I highly doubt it will happen.

Longtime Dem and Clinton ally Julian Epstein issues an urgent warning that the far left, particularly through the university system, has gone "off the deep end", producing radical ideology and victimology that endangers the country.

Just never forget the nationality of those flying the planes , they now seem

to be Trumps best friends ,

regards worgeordie

Looking back after the Hamas massacre of foreign nationals in Gaza,The recirculation of Osama bin Laden’s 2002 "Letter to America". which explicitly attempts to justify the targeting and killing of American civilians, drawn millions of views and expressions of sympathy online. This development underscores the ongoing presence of narratives that treat the September 11 attacks as somehow deserved or understandable rather than as an unprovoked act of mass murder.

In the context of the 25 year 9/11 remembrance discussion, such sympathy for a letter that rationalizes terrorism against civilians strengthens the case for excluding those who associate with or promote "America deserved 9/11" views or who align with ideologies that excuse terror.

The viral spread of this material, particularly among younger audiences influenced by progressive and radical left supporters, illustrates why allowing supporters of Marxist/Leninist or Maoist movements that traffic in anti American justifications near Ground Zero ceremonies would dishonor the victims and the solemn purpose of the remembrance.

https://www.wral.com/archive/21152679/

Edited August 13Aug 13 by riclag

13 minutes ago, riclag said:

This development underscores the ongoing presence of narratives that treat the September 11 attacks as somehow deserved or understandable rather than as an unprovoked act of mass murder.

All evidence points to a false flag in order to enact the patriot act and manufacture consent for a never ending 'war on terror'

Alert: The Anti Israel Conspiracy theorist at it again .

Mohamed Atta and others left clear trails of radicalization, travel to Afghanistan for training, and operational planning under al Qaeda. Osama bin Laden and al Qaeda publicly claimed responsibility multiple times, and the group’s ideology and prior attacks (East Africa embassies, USS Cole) fit the pattern.

2 hours ago, worgeordie said:

Just never forget the nationality of those flying the planes , they now seem

to be Trumps best friends ,

regards worgeordie

Oh please spare me. Name me an administration that hasn't made deals with Saudi.

Your bias is sick.

I was on a hunting trip in the western part of New South Wales. No TV, no radio. Just books to read. The night sky is so clear out there one can see galaxies behind the Milky Way - a reminder of how insignificant we are.

When I drove back to civilization on September 13, it felt like the world had gone mad in my absence. IMO it still is.

The 19 hijackers were Arab alQaeda extremists who murdered nearly 3,000 people,that fact is locked in by flight records, DNA, intelligence, and their own claims of responsibility, not some convenient "false flag",

Victims families have repeatedly petitioned to keep the remembrance focused on the dead rather than political theater or apologetics for terror.

Conspiracy theories and narrative shifting about "deserved' attacks only prove how terror propaganda peddled by the left and Jew haters has morphed into full Red/Green Alliance insanity.

These same terror supporters miraculously started protesting the same day if not hours after the Hamas Massacre.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaza_war_protests_in_the_United_States

Edited August 13Aug 13 by riclag

2 hours ago, riclag said:

Looking back after the Hamas massacre of foreign nationals in Gaza,The recirculation of Osama bin Laden’s 2002 "Letter to America". which explicitly attempts to justify the targeting and killing of American civilians, drawn millions of views and expressions of sympathy online. This development underscores the ongoing presence of narratives that treat the September 11 attacks as somehow deserved or understandable rather than as an unprovoked act of mass murder.

In the context of the 25 year 9/11 remembrance discussion, such sympathy for a letter that rationalizes terrorism against civilians strengthens the case for excluding those who associate with or promote "America deserved 9/11" views or who align with ideologies that excuse terror.

The viral spread of this material, particularly among younger audiences influenced by progressive and radical left supporters, illustrates why allowing supporters of Marxist/Leninist or Maoist movements that traffic in anti American justifications near Ground Zero ceremonies would dishonor the victims and the solemn purpose of the remembrance.

https://www.wral.com/archive/21152679/

How about it wasnt an attack by terrorist but a false flag operation conducted by our own government. Try reseaching "facts" from the government and you'll see they dont line up with what actually happened. Im sure you wont because it destroys your ongoing narrative.

2 hours ago, johng said:

All evidence points to a false flag in order to enact the patriot act and manufacture consent for a never ending 'war on terror'

I don't think so. Do you also believe that the moon landing was faked?

2 minutes ago, Dan O said:

How about it wasnt an attack by terrorist but a false flag operation conducted by our own government. Try reseaching "facts" from the government and you'll see they dont line up with what actually happened. Im sure you wont because it destroys your ongoing narrative.

Attention everyone, the flat-earthers have just arrived!

6 minutes ago, Mr Awesome said:

Attention everyone, the flat-earthers have just arrived!

Whats your thoughts on the millions of supporters of Hasan Piker(America deserved 9/11) and those that campaign with him , to me its heinous that those types would be allowed to be near Ground zero, remembrance ?

26 minutes ago, riclag said:

The 19 hijackers were Arab alQaeda extremists who murdered nearly 3,000 people,that fact is locked in by flight records, DNA, intelligence, and their own claims of responsibility, not some convenient "false flag",

Don't forget the hijacker's passport that was found in the rubble after the inferno that melted steel and brought down the buildings - that's a crucial piece of evidence and so so strong. And my it was such a stroke of luck! Phew!

Edited August 13Aug 13 by josephbloggs

5 hours ago, riclag said:

Longtime Dem and Clinton ally Julian Epstein issues an urgent warning that the far left, particularly through the university system, has gone "off the deep end", producing radical ideology and victimology that endangers the country.

Julian went right after the universities & colleges where the left have incubated terror sympathizers.Campus Radicalism & Higher Education, Epstein claims that radical ideology, anti Semitism, and "wokeness" on college campuses are symptoms of a broken education system . He calls for a return to teaching Western values, civics, and the classics .

1 hour ago, riclag said:

Whats your thoughts on the millions of supporters of Hasan Piker(America deserved 9/11) and those that campaign with him , to me its heinous that those types would be allowed to be near Ground zero, remembrance ?

Hassan Piker is a product of nepotism. One has to wonder why wealthy individuals support Marxism. He may not want to show up at ground zero, as he might not receive the welcome he hopes for.

9 hours ago, Mr Awesome said:

Attention everyone, the flat-earthers have just arrived!

Obviously you are another sheep following disinformation and government cover up of the evidence the clearly shows a false narrative. Sorry that you were not taught to think on your own.

12 hours ago, johng said:

All evidence points to a false flag in order to enact the patriot act and manufacture consent for a never ending 'war on terror'

Show us the evidence besides another's opinions. Are you saying terrorism doesn't exist, as has happened thousands of times around the globe? Did the hunt for Osama Bin Laden only happen to silence him before he exposed the US government in this plot? Has Iran not killed all those US soldiers and thousands of it's citizens? Should terrorists be allowed to continue unabated? Or should they be exterminated any chance we get so the world could have more peace?

When the US and Israeli terrorists

are 'exterminated' then there is a chance of peace.

2 minutes ago, johng said:

When the US and Israeli terrorists

are 'exterminated' then there is a chance of peace.

When the US "terrorists" are eliminated, that will give free reign to the real terrorists to wreak havoc on anyone they deem a hindrance to their twisted designs. These actions deter major threats, protect international security, and support global allies against hostile forces. Eliminating high-profile militant leaders prevents large-scale attacks on the US and its allies. By the way, no entity on earth can stop the US military, so you're friends the IRGC are going to have to make a decision that will actually help their own citizens soon.

Besides war being good for the economy, unless you want to live under Sharia Law, then, you need to coninue fighting terror with terror.

Unless someone comes up with a better idea, it is what it is.

Although, Muslims have figured out how to infiltrate, populate, then eventually simply vote all you rights away, in the future.

Welcome to the USA ... Tick tock

Edited August 14Aug 14 by KhunLA

7 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

Show us the evidence besides another's opinions.

How is it that 3 steel framed

buildings 'collapse' into their own foot print 1 of which was never hit by an airplane...never before or since has steel framed building 'collapsed' from a fire.

There are also the impossible flight manoeuvres of the 'planes'.

The military training exercises going on at the same time.

Reinsurance of the buildings just days before.

Dancing Israeli 'students'

Firefighters account on the day of explosions like a controlled demolition.

The announcement of building 7

having collapsed while it was still clearly in view behind the reporters.

The indistuctable passport and ID cards.

Where did all the debirs from the 'collapsed'. buildings go, where did all the desks chairs filing cabinets etc disappear too ?

There are so many unanswered questions.

The people who survived in stairwell B,and the guy who fell from a high floor but miraculously survived too.

10 hours ago, josephbloggs said:

Don't forget the hijacker's passport that was found in the rubble after the inferno that melted steel and brought down the buildings - that's a crucial piece of evidence and so so strong. And my it was such a stroke of luck! Phew!

Or the plane engine type found in the street that was never used in the planes flown, or the presence of thermite in the metal structure after the collapse. Hmmmm

Geez, what's up with celebrating the Holidays earlier and earlier every year?

It's August 14th where I'm at. 😀

You got your Xmas tree up yet?!? 🎄

20 minutes ago, johng said:

How is it that 3 steel framed

buildings 'collapse' into their own foot print 1 of which was never hit by an airplane...never before or since has steel framed building 'collapsed' from a fire.

There are also the impossible flight manoeuvres of the 'planes'.

The military training exercises going on at the same time.

Reinsurance of the buildings just days before.

Dancing Israeli 'students'

Firefighters account on the day of explosions like a controlled demolition.

The announcement of building 7

having collapsed while it was still clearly in view behind the reporters.

The indistuctable passport and ID cards.

Where did all the debirs from the 'collapsed'. buildings go, where did all the desks chairs filing cabinets etc disappear too ?

There are so many unanswered questions.

The people who survived in stairwell B,and the guy who fell from a high floor but miraculously survived too.

How many times has a plane crashed into such a building, so it would be known what happens afterwards?

Impossible flight maneuvers? People, like them, can learn to fly a plane on a computer, especially when it's just steering and not taking off and landing.

Watching videos and guessing their timelines isn't always accurate.

All the debris was either crushed or burned into a large mess. They used equipment to pick up are carry away everything. They sifted through all of it at the crash site and later when it was deposited. Do you think what they found is public records?

Loud sounds reported during the destruction of the World Trade Center towers were structural failures, massive collapsing weights, and pressurized air blasts, rather than pre-planted explosives. Extensive scientific investigations by the National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST) concluded that no controlled demolition or hidden charges caused the collapses.

Structural and Mechanical Causes of Sounds

• Steel Failure: Snapping and buckling of heavy steel columns under immense heat and loads created loud, gunshot-like booming noises.

• Falling Debris: The descent of multi-ton floor sections and concrete crashing down internal shafts generated roaring and crashing sounds resembling explosions.

• Air Compression: Rapidly plummeting upper building sections acted like pistons, compressing air and forcing sudden blasts of wind, smoke, and dust out through windows and lower-level openings.

Evidence Against Controlled Demolition

• Audio and Seismic Data: Sound and seismic recordings did not capture the distinctive high-decibel signature or sequential timing of specialized explosive charges.

• Initiation Points: Video evidence shows collapses starting directly at the fire and airplane impact zones, progressing downward organically from the damaged areas.

• Many conspiracy theorists around since Kennedy was assassinated and fully understandable, but most things can be explained.

This is the best explanation that I've seen yet of what actually happened:

https://www.unz.com/article/the-9-11-double-cross-conspiracy-theory/

11 hours ago, riclag said:

The 19 hijackers were Arab alQaeda extremists who murdered nearly 3,000 people,that fact is locked in by flight records, DNA, intelligence, and their own claims of responsibility, not some convenient "false flag",

Victims families have repeatedly petitioned to keep the remembrance focused on the dead rather than political theater or apologetics for terror.

Conspiracy theories and narrative shifting about "deserved' attacks only prove how terror propaganda peddled by the left and Jew haters has morphed into full Red/Green Alliance insanity.

These same terror supporters miraculously started protesting the same day if not hours after the Hamas Massacre.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaza_war_protests_in_the_United_States

Avoiding facts makes your on going and misleading narrative alive doesnt it?

Please explain the evidence of thermite in the metal structures, the molten metal pouring from the building, the collapse of the steel framed twin towers, the evidence of explosions given both by video footage and firefighters on the ground, the unexplained "collapse" of the untouched building 7 while jumping past another building, the wrong plane engine found at the scene, the overwhelming consensus of architects and engineers worldwide stating categorically that the buildings would not have collapsed as portrayed. i can go on and on but you wont reply because you cant or your fake narrative collapses

1 hour ago, Dan O said:

Or the plane engine type found in the street that was never used in the planes flown, or the presence of thermite in the metal structure after the collapse. Hmmmm

And the disappearance of all CCTV and commercial security footage of the Pentagon - the most heavily secure building in the United States - because they don't want us to see that it was a missile that flew into the 2nd foor of that building, and not a huge jetliner. Professional airline pilots have said a 757 could never make all those sharp turns at such great speeds so close to the ground and it had to be something else.

BTW - the initial hole was only the size of a two car garage (the roof collapsed later). AND it directly hit the office that was investigating the Pentagon's unaccounted loss of 2 trillion dollars that Rumsfeld had announced at a news conference the day before 9/11.

Edited August 14Aug 14 by ronnie50