Thailand rushes law allowing medical use of all class 5 drugs

[snoop1130]

Thailand rushes law allowing medical use of all class 5 drugs

By Jintamas Saksornchai, Staff Reporter

 

A ranger stands amid a large strand of cannabis to be confiscated Oct. 8 in Phetchaburi province.

 

BANGKOK — A stopgap measure to rush legalization of medical marijuana was set aside Friday as lawmakers found a way to complete their broader rewrite of the Narcotics Act in time to get it before the cabinet as soon as next week.

 

Instead of carving out an exception to reclassify cannabis, the interim legislature opted to go back to its original plan of redefining Class 5 drugs to permit medical use. Pending a legal review, they hope to forward it to the interim cabinet by Tuesday.

 

Full Story: http://www.khaosodenglish.com/news/2018/11/09/thailand-rushes-law-allowing-medical-use-of-all-class-5-drugs/

 

-- © Copyright Khaosod English 2018-11-9

[Splash210]

Puff puff pass ????

[ParadiseLost]

The last line of the article is the most tasty:

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He said Thai traditional medicine practitioners will also be allowed to treat patients with it.

Opium and Weed...

Potential for a new tourist segment?

 

#TAT420 ????

Edited November 9, 2018 by ParadiseLost

[zzaa09]

7 minutes ago, ParadiseLost said:

The last line of the article is the most tasty:

Opium and Weed...

Potential for a new tourist segment?

 

#TAT420 ????

Nothing new.

Had this in the '70s.

Just have to tweak a thing or two.

[PatOngo]

Although I applaud the logic behind this move, I am also suspicious with the haste they have shown. Fingers in the pie, I guess.

[mok199]

Bring in the Casinos and its ''Game on''.

[DrTuner]

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All Class 5 drugs – marijuana, opium and kratom

Opium? Well I guess the golden triangle is back on then. Might backfire as the crops will be used as raw material for heroin, weed and kratom are more benign.

[Odysseus123]

10 minutes ago, DrTuner said:

Opium? Well I guess the golden triangle is back on then. Might backfire as the crops will be used as raw material for heroin, weed and kratom are more benign.

Very curious..this mad rush at the end.

 

Why?

 

And don't give me any bulldust about compassion for those in pain and who may require medically dispensed THC.

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

If they actually enact these changes, one thing that I really hope results in the real world is a change to the current circumstance in Thailand where chronically ill or fatally ill patients under legit medical care often have a difficult time getting doctors to provide medications sufficient/strong enough to alleviate their pain.

 

Such patients in severe, chronic pain don't deserve to lay there suffering, just because the Thai government and medical bureaucracies can't get past their "drug war" mentality to allow the medications that medical patients legitimately need.

 

 

 

[Odysseus123]

5 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

If they actually enact these changes, one thing that I really hope results in the real world is a change to the current circumstance in Thailand where chronically ill or fatally ill patients under legit medical care often have a difficult time getting doctors to provide medications sufficient/strong enough to alleviate their pain.

 

Such patients in severe, chronic pain don't deserve to lay there suffering, just because the Thai government and medical bureaucracies can't get past their "drug war" mentality to allow the medications that medical patients legitimately need.

 

 

 

That is a curious one and I am not quite sure that they are related.

 

However I think that THC for pain control purposes is an excellent thing..but how,on earth,are they going to supervise it?There does not appear to be any infrastructure..or anything else..

[fforest1]

16 minutes ago, Odysseus123 said:

Very curious..this mad rush at the end.

 

Why?

 

And don't give me any bulldust about compassion for those in pain and who may require medically dispensed THC.

Because weed smokers dont make good protesters...

[Odysseus123]

Just now, fforest1 said:

Because weed smokers dont make good protesters...

Sorry..I am not following you.

 

I just find this mad rush somewhat disconcerting even tho I am all for the use of medical THC and believe(generally speaking) in the decriminalizing of drugs and an armistice in the drug war.

[YetAnother]

13 minutes ago, Odysseus123 said:

However I think that THC for pain control purposes is an excellent thing..but how,on earth,are they going to supervise it?There does not appear to be any infrastructure..or anything else..

the one thing you can take to the bank here is that thai enforcement of anything, laws or anything else is something left to ...no one; and doesnt happen

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

13 minutes ago, Odysseus123 said:

That is a curious one and I am not quite sure that they are related.

 

However I think that THC for pain control purposes is an excellent thing..but how,on earth,are they going to supervise it?There does not appear to be any infrastructure..or anything else..

 

My comments weren't related to, or a response to, your prior comments about marijuana and THC.

 

I have no idea WHY the Thai government suddenly seems to be doing what they're doing. But if in fact they do it, it could become a great relief for patients here with chronic pain and fatal diseases, since even in a hospital setting here, powerful pain relief medications can be hard to come by under the current regime.

 

As I know you know and understand, Thailand does a pretty poor job at regulating almost anything and everything. But my interest is, at least in the hospitals, in the future hopefully, doctors will be able to prescribe the appropriate pain medications their patients need and can benefit from, without fearing running afoul of the anti-drug war mentality.

 

 

Edited November 9, 2018 by TallGuyJohninBKK

[Odysseus123]

8 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

 

My comments weren't related to, or a response to, your prior comments about marijuana and THC.

 

I have no idea WHY the Thai government suddenly seems to be doing what they're doing. But if in fact they do it, it could become a great relief for patients here with chronic pain and fatal diseases, since even in a hospital setting here, powerful pain relief medications can be hard to come by under the current regime.

 

That may be true but in my 33 year sojourn in the health industry I saw as much peer regulation as I observed gov't ones.

 

I would hazard a guess that I have seen many more people die in great pain then you have and..self censored..was there when they died.

Edited November 9, 2018 by Odysseus123

[GTgrizzly]

They seem to be in an awful rush lately 

Maybe the crops are budding  ????

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

15 minutes ago, Odysseus123 said:

That may be true but in my 33 year sojourn in the health industry I saw as much peer regulation as I observed gov't ones.

 

I would hazard a guess that I have seen many more people die in great pain then you have and..self censored..was there when they died.

 

I'm not sure what point you're trying to make -- that even if the laws are changed here, Thai doctors will continue, out of training and tradition, to be reluctant to provide narcotic pain relief even when medically justified?

 

That may well be true at the outset. But if in fact the law is changed, I think MD attitudes and practices will begin to change over time, especially among the palliative care specialists here. And at least, from the patient's perspective, if you encounter a particular hospital or doctor that isn't willing to do what the law allows, at least in the future you'd have the ability to find another one that would.

 

[ParadiseLost]

I would like to see an amnesty for everyone who has a criminal record for possession of these substances.

 

Not dealers.

[Odysseus123]

21 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

 

I'm not sure what point you're trying to make -- that even if the laws are changed here, Thai doctors will continue, out of training and tradition, to be reluctant to provide narcotic pain relief even when medically justified?

 

That may well be true at the outset. But if in fact the law is changed, I think MD attitudes and practices will begin to change over time, especially among the palliative care specialists here. And at least, from the patient's perspective, if you encounter a particular hospital or doctor that isn't willing to do what the law allows, at least in the future you'd have the ability to find another one that would.

 

Because-in my experience-pain relief has never really been about the l;aw in Thailand-it has been more to do with the 'medical model' and attitudes to prescribing.

 

I have observed gross over prescribing in some situations and a minimalist approach in others.

 

An over all educational standard will be more beneficial than a change in legal standards.In fact,I do not think that these new laws will change anything very much in terms of palliative care.

 

 

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

Just now, Odysseus123 said:

An over all educational standard will be more beneficial than a change in legal standards.In fact,I do not think that these new laws will change anything very much in terms of palliative care.

 

Well, hopefully we'll have the opportunity to find out, one way or the other, if the law is in fact changed! 

[JayBird]

Out of curiosity, if van drivers and motorcyclists smoke this, how will it affect their driving performance?

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[Psimbo]

Canada managed to legalise pot last month without the country grinding to a halt or a run on pizzas. It will change very little if anything (other than legalising it for medicinal use) for the majority of people. 

[Psimbo]

9 minutes ago, JayBird said:

Out of curiosity, if van drivers and motorcyclists smoke this, how will it affect their driving performance?

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They will be so chilled out they won't bother going out.

[JayBird]

Canada managed to legalise pot last month without the country grinding to a halt or a run on pizzas. It will change very little if anything (other than legalising it for medicinal use) for the majority of people. 

How are Tim Horton sales doing?

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[farang62]

Is "Air America" back?

shades of my first time in S.E. Asia 1962

[ParadiseLost]

15 hours ago, JayBird said:

Out of curiosity, if van drivers and motorcyclists smoke this, how will it affect their driving performance?

The same it does today...

[Vacuum]

Guys, hold your horses! You will not be able to smoke 'recreational' marijuana without getting arrested. It's only medical marijuana prescribed by doctors that will be legal. So get used to your beer or alcohol of choice.

[Time Traveller]

On 11/9/2018 at 3:43 AM, PatOngo said:

Although I applaud the logic behind this move, I am also suspicious with the haste they have shown. Fingers in the pie, I guess.

There's a rumour that a high ranking Army official was implicated in trafficking a large amount of "Class 5 drugs" that were siezed last year. As the court trial date nears, the urgency increases. 

If indeed the law is ammended then it would amount to a minor misdemeanor instead of a crime that would be punished with decades in prison. 

Also, it allows the Military government to get off the hook from their years of grandstanding high horse position about cracking down on corruption and crimes by government officials.

 

Edited November 11, 2018 by Time Traveller