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your nick-name reflects your origins, but does this help?

Het leven het niet gemakkelijk, door god.

Nein, Axel, das hat mir leider nicht geholfen. Ich fuerchte, dass dein Deutsch doch wesentlich besser als dein Niederlaendisch ist...

Dutchy

Good, Dutchy.

But for the benefits of our international audience, translation, please.

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your nick-name reflects your origins, but does this help?

Het leven het niet gemakkelijk, door god.

Nein, Axel, das hat mir leider nicht geholfen. Ich fuerchte, dass dein Deutsch doch wesentlich besser als dein Niederlaendisch ist...

Dutchy

Good, Dutchy.

But for the benefits of our international audience, translation, please.

Guten Tag!Wie geht's?

Ich bin nicht aus Deutschland aber Ich spreche Deutsch und habe es nicht vergessen. :o

Ich sprach Deutsch sehr gut aber Ich habe es nicht fur sehr viele jahren praktizieren. :D

Darf ich "Schneeleopard" vorstellen!

Das ist richtig!Ich heisse "Snowleopard"! :D

Behutsam fur Ich bin eine sehr grosse weisse Katze! Achtung!Achtung! :D

Tschuss! :D

Snowleopard.

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Guten Tag!Wie geht's?

Ich bin nicht aus Deutschland aber Ich spreche Deutsch und habe es nicht vergessen. :o

Ich sprach Deutsch sehr gut aber Ich habe es nicht fur sehr viele jahren praktizieren. :D

Darf ich "Schneeleopard" vorstellen!

Das ist richtig!Ich heisse "Snowleopard"! :D

Behutsam fur Ich bin eine sehr grosse weisse Katze! Achtung!Achtung! :D

Tschuss! :D

Snowleopard.

Der (oder die?) spricht ja besser Deutsch als ich.

Das ist ja auch keine Ueberraschung, denn er (oder sie) kommt doch aus Thailand und nicht aus Oesterreich.

Johann

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Der (oder die?) spricht ja besser Deutsch als ich.

Das ist ja auch keine Ueberraschung, denn er (oder sie) kommt doch aus Thailand und nicht aus Oesterreich.

Johann

Come on, Yohan.

You're the lucky one.

Mountains, valleys, nice people,...

Your country is a very nice one.

I envy you.

Sometimes,... :o:D

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You're the lucky one.

Mountains, valleys, nice people,...

Your country is a very nice one.

I envy you.

About which country are you talking? Austria? or Japan?

These mountains, valleys and especially the nice people were the reason, that I married an Asian woman and I left 1980...I never came back to Europe.....

The only reason to envy me, is that I made it to move out from there.

Johann

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Anyone remember Count Von Ramstein (or something) from Bavaria ? I was looking though the messgae archives , the guy was a troll , but gave me a laugh :o oh well

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Well, I remember, you said before, despite of "dutchy" you are not from Holland.

My German, I believe, is ok, but a bit rusty. Still much better than my Thai (Axel, remember Thailand-related)

Yohan, why on earth did you change from johann? It must be the Nihongo-influence. :o

Somewhere bluecat is right. I have a good friend from Austria, lives here in Bangkok (Axel, remember Thailand-related)

When we meet, I can really relex. He talks for 25 minutes, non stop, And when I finalkly manage to stop him, by asking if he ever breathes, he giove another 35 minutes speech, about breathing.

What I wanbt to say, you cannot jump over your own shadow, just post what you want and if I find it gets too much I book you on a radical Thai feminist. Now that's a compliment, because, they are extremely difficult to find.

Kurt from somebody was a troll, his accent was wron, and he could not speak any Loas-lingo not even talking about Thai.

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Yohan, why on earth did you change from johann? It must be the Nihongo-influence.

.....

I book you on a radical Thai feminist. Now that's a compliment, because, they are extremely difficult to find.

Axel,

I did not change my name from Johann to Yohan....

When I signed up at Thaivisa-Forum the user-name johann was already existing...

So I took -yohan-.....same as it is written in Japanese....

When using the name -yohan- in Japan on the phone, the Japanese customer is often asking me, if I am a Korean.... YO-HAN..... (not impossible, and I have some hard accent when speaking Japanese...) So what name should I use instead of YOHAN or JOHANN?

Radical Thai feminist?

I am accustomed to radical feminists (had enough to do with them in my native country in Europe, which is an all-female orientated society....)

There are radical (American born) Asian racist feminists.......giving me a hard time how to talk to such *ladies* - not like with this Australian one from a feminist primary school....

If you need a sample, how to talk with them, I will send you one by email....

Johann

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Quote Yohan:

"There are radical (American born) Asian racist feminists.......giving me a hard time how to talk to such *ladies* - not like with this Australian one from a feminist primary school....

If you need a sample, how to talk with them, I will send you one by email...."

I'd like one, too- in Austrian, or Thai possible?-so I can use it here.

Is it just two words stretched over 10 pages?

The germanic tribes weren't known for their subtlety...

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hi,i'm german but left germany about 10 years ago

Thank you for that, absolutely fascinating, the things you learn on here never ceases to amaze me.

Thanks again.

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HI Yohann,

What are you actually doing in Japan and why this persistent interest in Thailand?

the very Dutch Dutchy

1-

I am technical staff (TV/Video technician, Japanese licenced) and I am working at

http://www.austriatrade-jp.org

Just doing anything, what has to do with technical work...computers, graphics, electrician, aircondition....just anything....

2-

To go back to Europe for me is out of question, to remain in Japan is OK for life, but should I am not be able to earn money, I will end here as a very poor man, and for my wife the same.

The best solution is to move on again....for early retirement...We were checking Malaysia, Philippines, Thailand....Out of all we both think, Thailand is the best choice for various reasons....bought a condo already there in Jomtien.

savings are ok for Thailand. but not enough for Japan....

also made vacation almost always in Thailand....big family (7 people) short airplane transfer (6 hours) cheap and plenty choice of accomodation....

Next year spring 2005, we should be out of Japan....

and should be in Thailand for a longer while...

May I ask the same about you?

Johann

Posted

wow

only 17 people out of 1000 thats a joke come on there must be more ....

yohann i live myself near sukumwit over jomtien beach ....

there is a really good new restaurant poseidon in the grand hotel komplex try it it s great :o:D

Posted
hmm

already 19 member not so bad but still quite a small minority

I'm a Brit working with a dozen Germans here in LOS. And all speak reasonable English, which is he language of communication with our Thai co-workers and Japanese paymasters.

Together with Internet communication, English is the language of trade and has basically replaced French as the language of diplomacy. Why not try to unite Europe under one language, rather than one currency? You know it makes sense.

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...Why not try to unite Europe under one language, rather than one currency?

Great idea and it will come, perhaps not in our generation or the next.

Bl**dy EU passport wastes space by spelling out everyting in 12 different languages.

But than let's face it in the US of A they do not speak a common language after +200 years. I mean Texas, Alabama .... Only half joking, I do see a EU with English as main language and every member to keep their own identity/language in tact.

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Het leven het niet gemakkelijk, door god.

As Erich Kästner put it:

Da hilft kein Fluchen, da hilft kein Beten,

Die Nachricht stimmt,

Der liebe Gott ist aus der Kirche ausgetreten.

So things will be better in the future.

Jokes aside. We have to take into consideration that Americans and Australians only can express themselves in English, exceptions confirming the rule. And the american and australian members of this forum constitute this minority of course: they are al fluent in Thai.

I red that the educational departments of these countries start to see the problem. Knowing at least one other language would help to activate certain parts of their brains which even might enable them to understand that people in other countries not only speak different, but also have different ways of thinking and feeling, with other words different cultures. I think most Americans think that Iraq people are a kind of Americans living in Iraq who at the first occasion all will convert to freedom fries.

In the present situation it probably will be extremely difficult for the avergae American or Australian to understand that many Europeans even learn the classical languages Latin and Greek, which are not used anymore. I think they would consider it to be a lost of time and energy.

Is there any American in the room who could inform us about the choice (the election?) of English as the official American Language a lttle bit more than twohundred years ago? I am not sure, I am not that old, but I think to remember that English got almost halve of the votes, that German got almost thirty procent and Dutch fifteen. After this decision the Dutch language for used for about fifty years as trade language (lingua franca if you so want).

Glück auf!

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Is there any American in the room who could inform us about the choice (the election?) of English as the official American Language a lttle bit more than twohundred years ago? I am not sure, I am not that old, but I think to remember that English got almost halve of the votes, that German got almost thirty procent and Dutch fifteen. After this decision the Dutch language for used for about fifty years as trade language (lingua franca if you so want).

Glück auf!

The original name of New York was actually "New Amsterdam," it's a shame that the Dutch lost it there. Dutch could have been the leading language of the world. People wouldn't make jokes about the Dutch language like the famous author Mr. James Eckhard did when talking about the Khmer language for instance . He called the Cambodians the "Dutch of Asia." I bet he doesn't know that it's only 35% more that we needed back then and he would have spoken Dutch!

I must say that the US is more aware of the need to learn foreign languages now, German and French is being offered at loads of highschools now.. But somehow they do not learn languages like people in Europe do..

Dutchy

Posted

I lived in north western Italy and most of the folks I worked with there spoke at least three languages and many of them more, made me more aware of languages and envious of this ability; but then again they grew up around different languages where as the people in the United states grow up listening to one form of English or another.

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My compliments for the Goethe Institut in Bangkok. Have a look at their website! They are very active and have a fantastic program.

Evenso the Alliance Française.

Do the Dante Alighieri Institute and the Britsh Council also have offices in Bangkok?

For the American and Australian readers:

These institutes are not militairy outposts but cultural institutions with the objective to enable anybody who is interested to make acquaintance with their respective national cultures. We think here about art, music, theater, film, literature, knowledge of history and language.

Quick, have a beer to flush away the bad taste!

Posted

I am an American. My mom is German and dad is Italian. I was raised mostly Italian, except for lots of German food around. YUMMM!

It's a wild combination, believe me.

What can I say?

People are people.

What I do know is Germans in Thailand are not well received... :o

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Why not try to unite Europe under one language, rather than one currency? You know it makes sense.

The French will NEVER accept English as the primary language of Europe, even though it clearly IS the primary language of the world already.

Example 1: the French film industry must (by law) make a fixed percentage of films in the French language - they must not make them all in English (which is the only way their industry will make money and survive).

Example 2: Anyone heard a French politician speak English?

It's a big shame and a big financial burden for the running of the EU. I especially love hearing Indian politicians speaking English - some of them speak such perfect English it makes me shake my head in dismay when I hear our wonderful deputy prime minister, John Prescott, utter the gibberish that he thinks is English.

Bl**dy EU passport wastes space by spelling out everyting in 12 different languages.

And now certain EU reports are to be made much shorter to save the cost of translating them into the 20 (?) languages needed by the new, "enlarged" EU. So clarity and detail will be lost because we (they - I don't give a ***, I'm in Thailand) can't agree on one language.

The whole concept of the EU is one of the many reasons why I am here and don't really want to think about all the crap that is happening in the west.

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Why not try to unite Europe under one language, rather than one currency? You know it makes sense.

The Franch will NEVER accept English as the primary language of Europe, even though it clearly IS the primary language of the world already................

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Anyone heard a French politician speak English?

..........

Inside the EU the most spoken language, considering the native speakers, is German, there are more native German speakers, than English or French native speakers. Should the relative majority of EU citizen decide on the ONE European language, it might be German.....and not English or French.

Another argument is, who pays for all in the EU - and in that case the answer is again, that the majority are German speakers.

However as a German native speaker myself, I am supposed to learn English and French, as these are the international most used languages for communication.

My passport should be made clearly in English and French and not in German and other 12 or 20 languages....a passport is made for use OUTSIDE of the EU.

RDN Posted on Fri 2004-06-04, 14:57:49

The whole concept of the EU is one of the many reasons why I am here and don't really want to think about all the crap that is happening in the west.

I totally agree. I cannot say it better. I have no intention to return to Europe.

Johann

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