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Posted
2 hours ago, owl sees all said:

The western world is run by the banking system. The bankers and their cronies (Blair and Soros for two) are doing their best the stop Brexit from taking place.

 

It is not easy to stand up to the 'establishment' (even a US President was put down for challenging them), but the people of the UK did: and won.

 

Throughout the world, the people have the power, but are rarely offered the chance to make an impact. Brexit was one of those times when the government had to listen; and they don't like it, because they got an unexpected result. Now the hidden hand is concerned that we actually could leave. 

good point,but what makes you think the UK standing alone with a Labour Govt and most likely going into a recession is going change the bankers and their cronies,we will be much weaker and they know it,they are quids in already and with more to come,i dont think they (blair/soros etc) are bothered if we leave or stay,the UK and JC are hardly heavyweights

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13 minutes ago, welovesundaysatspace said:

You, same as most Brexiteers, make the mistake to believe (or deliberately lie) that people argueing for a second referendum do so because they “lost”  the first referendum. But that’s (mostly) not true. Most remainers, I strongly believe, would not ask for another referendum if there was a clear result based on a fair (not manipulated) vote. 

 

There was a clear result leave got 1,269,500 more votes in the biggest ever electoral turnout. Remainers always seem to focus on the campaigns directly prior to the referendum, presumably because that's when they first became interested in the subject and because that's the information they used to make their decision. What they seem to neglect is the reason why we had the referendum in the first place, the rise of UKIP and eurosceptisism that caused Cameron to announce a referendum. Those who had an interest had years to formulate an opinion, which is why no one bought into the lies of Camerons project fear, our decision had been made long before the referendum was announced. 

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Posted (edited)
3 hours ago, bristolboy said:

Please, spare us the alleged curriculum vitae. Like all other posters here, your comments should be judged on the basis of their quality.

As for you not being a supporter of Leave...this is like those Americans who say I-don't-support-Trump-but...It's very clear you support leave. So spare us the pretense of impartiality.

If the Brexit referendum were to be reversed on the basis of a putsch you would have an excellent point. On the basis that Parliament ignored the referendum, you'd have a good one too. But since a 2nd referendum would be voted on the by mostly same electorate that voted on the first I just don't understand how that is undemocratic.

My cv is true - worked in over 25 countries, citizenship of 2 EU countries, PR (Permanent Residence) in 2 further countries, quaternary education. I probably pay more in tax than you earn as a salary.

 

Your cv so far is that you holidayed with a British working class mining family during the coal strike. But you still hate the working class, and you still don't understand us.

 

Brexit has been coming for 30-40 years - it has nothing to do specifically with Trump.

 

Sir Ivan Rogers, possibly the most knowledgeable Brit about EU bureaucracy, and a devout remainer, believes that  a 2nd ref is out of the question. I've posted  about this this twice in the last few weeks, so I won't repeat the link, as I assume you actually read this forum and can use google if you don't.

 

 

 

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You, same as most Brexiteers, make the mistake to believe (or deliberately lie) that people argueing for a second referendum do so because they “lost”  the first referendum. But that’s (mostly) not true. Most remainers, I strongly believe, would not ask for another referendum if there was a clear result based on a fair (not manipulated) vote. 
People arguing for a second referendum aren't doing so because they lost?

LOL Yeah, of course not. They would still be arguing for a second referendum had they won.


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Most remainers, I strongly believe, would not ask for another referendum if there was a clear result based on a fair (not manipulated) vote. 

Whichever side loses, they won't accept the result, and thanks to the precedent that people like you are cheering on being set - for referendum results to be ignored - that losing side will be within its rights to do that, to not accept it, and to demand another vote.



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Posted
23 minutes ago, My Thai Life said:

I am a Brit. I support democracy, after all, the UK invented it. The UK voted to leave the EU. 

 

You are a US citizen, good luck with your president and your domestic and international problems.

 

I'm not a US citizen, and I am neither arrogant enough nor interested enough in your problems to comment on your affairs. Please afford us the the same courtesy.

 

 

Whatever my nationality may be, you are a troll. The moderators have made very clear that citing an alleged nationality as a reason to disqualify someone's comments is strictly forbidden. You probably know this but like most trolls you just can't help yourself.

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Posted
1 hour ago, My Thai Life said:

My cv is true - worked in over 25 countries, citizenship of 2 EU countries, PR (Permanent Residence) in 2 further countries, quaternary education. I probably pay more in tax than you earn as a salary.

 

Your cv so far is that you holidayed with a British working class mining family during the coal strike. But you still hate the working class, and you still don't understand us.

 

Brexit has been coming for 30-40 years - it has nothing to do specifically with Trump.

 

Sir Ivan Rogers, possibly the most knowledgeable Brit about EU bureaucracy, and a devout remainer, believes that  a 2nd ref is out of the question. I've posted  about this this twice in the last few weeks, so I won't repeat the link, as I assume you actually read this forum and can use google if you don't.

 

 

 

And if what you say about your income is true,  you probably pay more in tax that do most British workers. I guess that disqualifies them from having an opinion contrary to yours also. Such snobbishness.

 

I never said that Trump had anything to do with Brexit. Just that like Trump supporters who claim not to like Trump but... and then defend him, you claim to be impartial but I've yet to see you criticize any Brexit position.

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I'm  really amazed  that Farage's backers aren't pushing hard for a second referendum , since they made so much money during the first one , spread betting on the side ! 

I almost thought I was back at the Forex "pits ' for a while there !

 

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On 1/2/2019 at 10:23 AM, evadgib said:

 

 

Watch the video 

 

and see for how long out of the 12 minute display the wheel resembled the EU flag.

 

Then untwist your knickers.

Posted
23 minutes ago, bristolboy said:

More trolling. This is not going to end well for you.

There is no Brexit outcome that will not end well for me personally. 

 

There are some outcomes that will be not well in the short term for democracy, and there are some outcomes that will be not well in the short term for economics.

 

Medium to long term, democracy and free trade will continue to flourish in the UK. After all we invented both.

 

 

Posted
18 minutes ago, My Thai Life said:

..............

Medium to long term, democracy and free trade will continue to flourish in the UK. After all we invented both.

 

UK invented democracy and free trade?? Thanks for a good laugh!

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25 minutes ago, My Thai Life said:

Not only do I pay more tax than most Brit citizens, I pay more tax than they earn on average. And I was happy to do that for many years.  Despite my working class roots I realise I have obtained benefits that many working class people never discover. That's one of many reasons I am profoundly aligned with working class socialist politics - something that you as an American will never understand.

 

And I'm pretty sure I pay more tax than you earn as salary. But as you never tell the truth about about your personal situation I can't be sure about that,  and really who cares? Maybe you don't even work. Why not tell us? Really so shy?

Now, this is interesting!

 

Do people think that the ones, who make more money, by.. well for example buying companies, ending the workers employments and selling the companies by pieces to the next buyers.. while making a killing profit, are more worthy of a person as some people who actually do their jobs. Let's take Susan, an nurse as an example.

 

Susan doesn't make a lot of money. Susan does her work as she feels that it's her responsibility to take care of the sick and the elderly. 

 

Is Susan lesser person than a market hawk, who breaks things to make a bit more profit? Is Susan a lesser person as she doesn't pay as much taxes to the government coffins as the market hawk does? Should Susan even allowed to vote? Susan, after all, is a lesser person than this one glamorous person with a thick wallet of money!

 

 

 

Posted
1 hour ago, 7by7 said:

Watch the video 

 

and see for how long out of the 12 minute display the wheel resembled the EU flag.

 

Then untwist your knickers.

Me or Katie Hopkins?

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Posted (edited)
23 minutes ago, evadgib said:

Me or Katie Hopkins?

Both, and Condell and everyone else who saw the display as some sort of desperate, subliminal plot to reverse Brexit!

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Posted
1 minute ago, 7by7 said:

Both, and Condell and everyone else who saw the display as some sort of desperate, subliminal plot to reverse Brexit!

Wot? You mean Khan was only winding us up? I spot it quite easily when Grouse tries it but I have to admit ol' Sadiq had me fooled ???? Thanks for pointing that out!

 

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Posted (edited)
7 minutes ago, evadgib said:

Wot? You mean Khan was only winding us up? I spot it quite easily when Grouse tries it but I have to admit ol' Sadiq had me fooled ???? Thanks for pointing that out!

 

 

Quote

Tonight's spectacular #LondonNYE fireworks showed that whatever the outcome of Brexit - #LondonIsOpen - to business, to talent, to ideas, to creativity - and why London really is the greatest city in the world

(7by7 emphasis)

 

Do I really need to explain the meaning of whatever to you?

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Posted (edited)
19 minutes ago, 7by7 said:

Do I really need to explain the meaning of whatever to you?

Brexit preceded NYE therefore the outcome was known.

Please stick me on your iggy list as this laughter is doing me in yet you're far too entertaining to go on mine ????

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2 minutes ago, evadgib said:

Brexit preceded NYE therefore the outcome was known.

Please stick me on your iggy list as this laughter is doing me in ????

More childishness from you to hide the fact that you have no real response.

 

As anyone with half a brain knows, there are still three possible outcomes; May's deal, no deal or cancel the whole thing. Khan's message is that whichever of those three happens, London is open for business.

 

Stick me on your ignore list if you wish; after all it is a typical Brexiteer reaction to unpalatable truths and unanswerable questions; ignore them.

 

I don't believe in using the ignore list to hide from people whose opinions I have no argument against, who present facts I cannot refute, who ask questions I cannot answer; but, as I said to you elsewhere, I will in future only respond to you when (if) you have something adult to say.

Posted (edited)
58 minutes ago, 7by7 said:

More childishness from you to hide the fact that you have no real response.

 

As anyone with half a brain knows, there are still three possible outcomes; May's deal, no deal or cancel the whole thing. Khan's message is that whichever of those three happens, London is open for business.

 

Stick me on your ignore list if you wish; after all it is a typical Brexiteer reaction to unpalatable truths and unanswerable questions; ignore them.

 

I don't believe in using the ignore list to hide from people whose opinions I have no argument against, who present facts I cannot refute, who ask questions I cannot answer; but, as I said to you elsewhere, I will in future only respond to you when (if) you have something adult to say.

My advice to you. It's time to chance tactics.

 

Mute these little voices. At the end of the day, their voices are not heard by anyone else but their own little support bubble. Nobody else cares what they have to say. We did our best, we tried to hear them, they abused their voice of freedom. So be it.

 

There is no reason to react (well, we do it occasionally as we are curious folks). There is no reason to react to those posts. Take a deep breath, count to 10.. and puff.. the urge is gone. We all support the action of not reacting to these posts.. while we all know we could put them to the ground by our words. Let's just not do it anymore.

 

Meanwhile we could start talking about solutions, future ideas. These are the things we are on top. 

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Posted
5 hours ago, bristolboy said:

Whatever my nationality may be, you are a troll. The moderators have made very clear that citing an alleged nationality as a reason to disqualify someone's comments is strictly forbidden. You probably know this but like most trolls you just can't help yourself.

 

I do not think anyone has suggested that none Brits should be excluded from these threads. To do so would be to exclude 60% of the remoan post.????????????

 

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4 minutes ago, nontabury said:

 

I do not think anyone has suggested that none Brits should be excluded from these threads. To do so would be to exclude 60% of the remoan post.????????????

 

An example. How to quiet the voices of whines and how to turn the discussion towards solutions of the future?

 

Whiners had their say and they have proven already that the whiners are not able to provide any kind of solutions. 

 

That's why it's time to override whatever they say and start creating future for the people.

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Please stick to the topic.   Anyone is welcome to post as long as they stay on topic and follow the rules.   One person hasn't abided by this and is on suspension.  

Posted (edited)
47 minutes ago, vinny41 said:

we had a vote in 2016 17.4 million people voted to leave so we either leave with no deal or leave with the Theresa May deal

I saw your reply by accident, so I'll reply.

 

Your kind had 3 years to come up with a solution and you failed. All you did was, you complained about everything. Useless, utterly useless people. 

 

You are not worthy of second though anymore. Bye.

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