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Russia, Turkey discuss coordination in Syria after U.S. withdrawal

 

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Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov attends a meeting on forming a constitutional committee in Syria at the United Nations in Geneva, Switzerland, December 18, 2018. REUTERS/Denis Balibouse

 

MOSCOW (Reuters) - Foreign and defence ministers from Russia and Turkey discussed coordination between their forces in Syria after the United States' decision to withdraw troops from the Arab republic, Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov on Saturday.

 

"Today, an understanding was reached on how military representatives of Russia and Turkey will continue coordinating their steps "on the ground" under new conditions with a view to the ultimate eradication of the terrorist threat in the Syrian Arab Republic," Lavrov said.

 

In an abrupt policy shift, Trump has said that Washington would withdraw roughly 2,000 U.S. troops in Syria, upending a pillar of American policy in the Middle East and alarming U.S. allies.

 

 
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Poor Syria. Part of the French sphere after the WW1 carve up of the ME. An ally of the old USSR and attacker of Israel. Now going to be carved up by the Russians and Turks under the ruthless Putin and ambitious Erdogan.

 

And The Donald's answer - withdraw and leave it to them! No wonder his experts are resigning and his allies dismayed.

 

The Kurds, like the Armenians before them, are gonna be thrown to the wolves.

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Get out now, enough Americans have died to save Syria. If those people are important to europe then european blood and money can go save them. Time for America to come home and take care of North/South America. No more acting as the policeman of the world.

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8 hours ago, rooster59 said:

"Today, an understanding was reached on how military representatives of Russia and Turkey will continue coordinating their steps "on the ground" under new conditions with a view to the ultimate eradication of the terrorist threat in the Syrian Arab Republic,"

The Kurds are considered a terrorist threat by both Syria and Turkey.

Until Trump's withdrawal NATO member Turkey could not directly attack the Kurds in Syria because of the physical presence of the US military virtually embedded with the Kurdish forces.

A Turkish attack on the Kurds would have been an attack against a NATO member.

But with the US armed forces withdrawal, there will be no NATO conflict in such an attack.

And if the Syrians launch WMD's against the Kurds and The Syrian Rebel Army from areas held by the Turkish armed forces, how can the US retaliate against such inhumanity without attacking a NATO member?

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57 minutes ago, 1337markus said:

Now we need Lavrov to take over the Afghanistan 17 year stuff up.

Lol.... the soviets already spent ten years occupying Afghanistan, they won’t be back anytime soon

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10 minutes ago, IAMHERE said:

Get out now, enough Americans have died to save Syria. If those people are important to europe then european blood and money can go save them. Time for America to come home and take care of North/South America. No more acting as the policeman of the world.

If your suggesting that the US presence in Syria has anything tangible to do with Europe, you would probably be wrong... perhaps a little reading on why the US is there, might help.

 

and what else... stop being the policeman of the world and simply redirect to being the policeman of two continents,.... lol... two continents where y’all aren’t getting an ass kicking

 

oh wait... Europe isn’t in north or South America... so withdraw all troops from Europe, as well, right?.... mmm... international politics aren’t your friend.

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1 hour ago, Baerboxer said:

Poor Syria. Part of the French sphere after the WW1 carve up of the ME. An ally of the old USSR and attacker of Israel. Now going to be carved up by the Russians and Turks under the ruthless Putin and ambitious Erdogan.

 

And The Donald's answer - withdraw and leave it to them! No wonder his experts are resigning and his allies dismayed.

 

The Kurds, like the Armenians before them, are gonna be thrown to the wolves.

The entire 'kurdish' thing is a sham.  Most of the area the US is illegally occupying in eastern syria is sunni arab; Raqqa and a bunch of other riverbank towns.  The Kurds were only present in the NE tip of syria (with arabs).  The US created a 'state' called 'SDF' where the minority Kurds dominate everything, because of this they were/are getting hit by bomb and sniping attacks, and getting killed.. something never mentioned in the MSM.  Eastern Iraq needs to be taken over by the Syrian government so they can rebuild.  Raqqa and other places under the rule of US mercenaries is not being aided, it's just languishing with dead bodies still under the ruble.  Aleppo which is was recaptured by the Syrian Army is being rebuilt.  

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21 minutes ago, IAMHERE said:

Get out now, enough Americans have died to save Syria. If those people are important to europe then european blood and money can go save them. Time for America to come home and take care of North/South America. No more acting as the policeman of the world.

Also of note, is your inference that us forces are dying in Syria, in numbers disproportional to Europeans.

 

five US servicemen’s have died in Syria, out of nearly 400 foreign servicemen deaths... European deaths therefore vastly out number US deaths... vastly outnumber.... so it’s the Europeans that are dying in Syria, not Americans, as your post indicated... European blood, by and large... not American blood.

 

your post is dismissive and insulting of/to other participants.

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41 minutes ago, IAMHERE said:

No more acting as the policeman of the world.

The Israelis are not laughing at the US being the "policeman" in the Middle East.

Trump's decision to withdraw U.S. troops from Syria provided many Israelis with a rude awakening - you are alone.

  • Netanyahu reportedly received a heads-up in a phone call with Trump two days before the announcement, but failed to dissuade Trump; he was not, in any meaningful sense, consulted. Israel’s tight-lipped statements calling it a “U.S. decision” that would in no way constrain Israel’s own actions betrayed Netanyahu’s unhappiness.
  • Who persuaded Trump to make the ill-advised move - Netanyahu’s regional nemesis, the Israel-bashing Turkish strongman Recep Tayyip Erdogan.

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2018/12/israelis-arent-happy-trumps-syria-withdrawal/579103/

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5 hours ago, IAMHERE said:

Get out now, enough Americans have died to save Syria. If those people are important to europe then european blood and money can go save them. Time for America to come home and take care of North/South America. No more acting as the policeman of the world.

 Why the hell were we there to begin with? I thought we got involved to remove Bashar because he was gassing Syrians.

 We declare win, and get out after we helped destroy the country, and create a refugee disaster.

 Did we win? is Bashar out?

Are you tired of winning? I am sure Israel is!  

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11 hours ago, Srikcir said:

The Israelis are not laughing at the US being the "policeman" in the Middle East.

Trump's decision to withdraw U.S. troops from Syria provided many Israelis with a rude awakening - you are alone.

  • Netanyahu reportedly received a heads-up in a phone call with Trump two days before the announcement, but failed to dissuade Trump; he was not, in any meaningful sense, consulted. Israel’s tight-lipped statements calling it a “U.S. decision” that would in no way constrain Israel’s own actions betrayed Netanyahu’s unhappiness.
  • Who persuaded Trump to make the ill-advised move - Netanyahu’s regional nemesis, the Israel-bashing Turkish strongman Recep Tayyip Erdogan.

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2018/12/israelis-arent-happy-trumps-syria-withdrawal/579103/

When the US is involved in anything everyone seems to see them as an aggressor and wants them out. When they decide to leave people want them to stay.  Doesn't matter what the US does, it's in the wrong to much of the world.  The US gets mired in conflicts all to often because the politicians back home send the troops and rather than going all out to kill the enemy the same politicians want a solution that does less harm and damage. Afghanistan is the longest war in American history and how do things stand today?  Generally worse than two years after the main conflict. It is time to reassess US interests in  the Middle East from top to bottom. Instead of letting the geniuses at the State Department and other advisors play their world chest game, maybe it's time to see what the American people would like. Instead of always being told these are necessary interventions. 

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