Toefl Requirements

[idle44mins]

Today I was confronted with another 'new' rule or maybe the Provincial MoE is enforcing it now:

non-native English teachers must show their TOEFL test results in order to get a teachers' license.

For my idea, the Provincials (here in Chonburi) are very keen on creating new ideas and rules.

Anyway, we have several upcoming teachers and among them are 1 or 2 non-native English speakers. One of them will get in trouble because of the fact, that he has to produce some kind of TOEFL test result within 12 days.

Who can tell me more about the TOEFL requirements for non-native English teachers?

I know that the government has the requirements regarding their EP (English Program), but do they count for all non-native English speakers?

[gemmamccarron]

Today I was confronted with another 'new' rule or maybe the Provincial MoE is enforcing it now:

non-native English teachers must show their TOEFL test results in order to get a teachers' license.

For my idea, the Provincials (here in Chonburi) are very keen on creating new ideas and rules.

Anyway, we have several upcoming teachers and among them are 1 or 2 non-native English speakers. One of them will get in trouble because of the fact, that he has to produce some kind of TOEFL test result within 12 days.

Who can tell me more about the TOEFL requirements for non-native English teachers?

I know that the government has the requirements regarding their EP (English Program), but do they count for all non-native English speakers?

Not sure if i can offer much information but the Filipino girl i work with, who works as a teaching assistant, told me the MOE require her to get a TOEFL score of 600 to get the work permit. Her English is not perfect but still very good and she only attained a score of 510...... so i believe the score of 600 is hard to achieve.

Edited March 3, 2007 by gemmamccarron

[Casanundra]

I think this test should be done for all English teachers because I bet some native teachers would struggle to get 500 let alone 600. It would also be interesting to see if this requirement was placed on the Thai English teachers as well as I wonder how many of them would get beyond 400.

In my job I get to see about 100 Masters degree applicants a year and have only ever seen a TOEFL score higher than 600 four times in the past two years. Usually we find that it's the Japanese applicants who have the highest TOEFL scores.

For our masters degree you need at least a TOEFL or equivalent of 550 to get on the course but most of the students I see (both Thai and International) come with a range from 247 (waaaay too low) up to about 580. We sometimes accept talented students with a good GPA but whose English is below 550 but for the first semester they are all on probation and must atain a grade B (70%) in every subject to continue.

Quite tough. All of this sounds like they have found yet another reason and excuse to eliminate wannabe teachers in Thailand and I look forward to the day when I see students of the future applying to our international program (taught in English) with the ability to grunt and point their way through the course due to having had no exposure to any Native English teachers along the way to getting there.

Edited March 3, 2007 by Casanundra

[otherstuff1957]

600? A Philipina friend of mine was told that she had to get 550 in order to pass! She actually got 825, as her English is quite good.

[TerryLH]

Several years ago the score needed for an American University was 500-550, depending on which Uni and what program you want to study in.

I thought 677 was the highest score. Has that changed?

[Loaded]

Several years ago the score needed for an American University was 500-550, depending on which Uni and what program you want to study in.

I thought 677 was the highest score. Has that changed?

I think there are different scales for paper based or computer based results - not 100% sure though!