webfact Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 Boris Johnson says PM May's Brexit deal is 'dead': Evening Standard newspaper Former British Foreign Secretary Boris Johnson leaves the Cabinet Office in London, Britain March 19, 2019. REUTERS/Henry Nicholls LONDON (Reuters) - Boris Johnson, who led the campaign to leave the European Union, said Prime Minister Theresa May's twice-defeated Brexit divorce deal is dead, the Evening Standard newspaper said on Thursday. "Boris: May's deal is dead," the newspaper said on its front page. The newspaper said Johnson, who fell in behind the deal after May promised to quit if it was passed, had told friends: "It's dead anyway." (Reporting by Guy Faulconbridge; editing by Kate Holton) -- © Copyright Reuters 2019-03-29 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Laughing Gravy Posted March 28, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted March 28, 2019 So he is saying what he said months ago and we all know. The deal is dead. Maybe TM and the EU should realise it also but both their arrogance seems won't allow it. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blazes Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 A toff on a bike. Boris will bring fun back to Brexit when May is here and May is gone..... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mfd101 Posted March 29, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted March 29, 2019 Which brings the Brits back to their basic 2 choices: No-deal exit (bye bye Ireland); OR one or other or all of staying in EU/single market/customs union. For rational people the obvious compromise - perfectly sensible if staying in the EU is too hard - is either single market or customs union (which allows the nationalist symbolism issues to be addressed without wrecking the economy). 7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Loiner Posted March 29, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted March 29, 2019 The Zombie Deal will be voted on today, without the Political Declaration. Looks like it will be a closer vote than its’ previous two killings but will still be downed by about 20 votes minimum. What next? Time for the Remainers to accept that they cannot overturn the will of the masses. Leave No Deal. Sent from my iPhone using Thaivisa Connect 10 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Loiner Posted March 29, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted March 29, 2019 A toff on a bike. Boris will bring fun back to Brexit when May is here and May is gone.....PM job up for grabs and Boris will grab it, then do a proper job of Brexit. Boris as PM, out of the EU no deal, Jezza quashed again, Remainers stuffed again, Donald on a second term. What’s not to like? 5 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kieran00001 Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 48 minutes ago, mfd101 said: Which brings the Brits back to their basic 2 choices: No-deal exit (bye bye Ireland); OR one or other or all of staying in EU/single market/customs union. For rational people the obvious compromise - perfectly sensible if staying in the EU is too hard - is either single market or customs union (which allows the nationalist symbolism issues to be addressed without wrecking the economy). Quote Which brings the Brits back to their basic 2 choices: No-deal exit (bye bye Ireland); OR one or other or all of staying in EU/single market/customs union. The latter not being a single choice and also the topic of the debate, but thanks for your 2 cents worth. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Kieran00001 Posted March 29, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted March 29, 2019 16 minutes ago, Loiner said: PM job up for grabs and Boris will grab it, then do a proper job of Brexit. Boris as PM, out of the EU no deal, Jezza quashed again, Remainers stuffed again, Donald on a second term. What’s not to like? My money is on Brexit not happening and Gove being shoehorned in as the fall guy. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kieran00001 Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 40 minutes ago, Loiner said: The Zombie Deal will be voted on today, without the Political Declaration. Looks like it will be a closer vote than its’ previous two killings but will still be downed by about 20 votes minimum. What next? Time for the Remainers to accept that they cannot overturn the will of the masses. Leave No Deal. Sent from my iPhone using Thaivisa Connect Oh, so you think Remainers have something to accept because parliament did not just vote 400 to 160 against leaving with no-deal? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post malagateddy Posted March 29, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted March 29, 2019 Please remind me of the referendum result..I'm sure that the LEAVE vote won!!! Oh, so you think Remainers have something to accept because parliament did not just vote 400 to 160 against leaving with no-deal?Sent from my SM-G7102 using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kieran00001 Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 14 minutes ago, malagateddy said: Please remind me of the referendum result..I'm sure that the LEAVE vote won!!! Sent from my SM-G7102 using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app Yes, but that is not what we were talking about, we were talking about having to accept leaving without a deal, something that is almost 100% off the cards, much more likely there will be a second referendum than crashing out. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Loiner Posted March 29, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted March 29, 2019 Yes, but that is not what we were talking about, we were talking about having to accept leaving without a deal, something that is almost 100% off the cards, much more likely there will be a second referendum than crashing out.The current Withdrawal Act is the law, which trumps your ‘not leaving without a deal’. It does not require any kind of deal.A second referendum is still less likely than you hope, but hey hoe another referendum and blast right through the Remainer plot, without the bad deal. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SheungWan Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Loiner said: The Zombie Deal will be voted on today, without the Political Declaration. Looks like it will be a closer vote than its’ previous two killings but will still be downed by about 20 votes minimum. What next? Time for the Remainers to accept that they cannot overturn the will of the masses. Leave No Deal. no-deal Brexit before April 1 shortened to 3/1. Edited March 29, 2019 by SheungWan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basil B Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 May's deal is dead... If she could get ALL her MP's through the Aye lobby then Labour shure can sure make all their MP's use the Noe lobby. She is short of 7 votes, but there again I am sure the defeat will be a lot bigger. The Speaker has said she can not bring it back for another vote if it is defeated today. So what next, out on the 12th no deal? the only other options decide on another and ask the EU for more time which will involve us staying in the EU a lot longer and participating in in the European elections, or just call it a day and revoking Article 50. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post thaibeachlovers Posted March 29, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted March 29, 2019 1 hour ago, malagateddy said: Please remind me of the referendum result..I'm sure that the LEAVE vote won!!! Sent from my SM-G7102 using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app Since when did politicians care about the will of the people except at election time? 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kieran00001 Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 14 minutes ago, Loiner said: The current Withdrawal Act is the law, which trumps your ‘not leaving without a deal’. It does not require any kind of deal. A second referendum is still less likely than you hope, but hey hoe another referendum and blast right through the Remainer plot, without the bad deal. The current Withdrawal Act has not been ratified, the transition first has to be approved by both houses first, at present it isn't making it past the first house, but there are some hours left, perhaps you'll get lucky, but there is nothing to indicate that luck could result in a no-deal and that has been voted against so heavily, the only thing coming close is to remain in the customs union. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Loiner Posted March 29, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted March 29, 2019 So what next, out on the 12th no deal? the only other options decide on another and ask the EU for more time which will involve us staying in the EU a lot longer and participating in in the European elections, or just call it a day and revoking Article 50.Why not call it a day and Leave on the 12th No Deal? Much easier all round and nothing to revoke. 5 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Letseng Posted March 29, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted March 29, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, malagateddy said: Please remind me of the referendum result..I'm sure that the LEAVE vote won!!! Sent from my SM-G7102 using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app I'm still trying to find a leaver who can explain how Britain will benefit from leaving? So far I just got replies like "we want our own rule, do our own trade deals, fishing etc." Days of the Empire are over, British fishing industry will not go back to a guy with a boat, how many deals has Fox organised: Liechtenstein, Israel, may be Cuba, and 4 other countries of no great consequence. What is going to change as EU rules were integrated into British regulations trade rules etc? These are there to stay otherwise you can't trade with the outside world. This presently ongoing Brexit circus is not going to convince the world that Britain will be a reliable trading partner. Btw I'm not a Brit and I'm not an EU fanatic but ppl should look at reality. Why did Rees Mogg move his company out of Britain and to an EU country? Edited March 29, 2019 by Letseng 7 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post lemonjelly Posted March 29, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted March 29, 2019 Still can’t believe that more than half of the UK population were taken in by Farage who is nothing more than one of those annoying bigoted nationalist gits you’d find boring the pants off everyone in the lounge bar of a suburban mock Tudor pub.Sent from my iPhone using Thaivisa Connect 10 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post usviphotography Posted March 29, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted March 29, 2019 12 minutes ago, Letseng said: I'm still trying to find a leaver who can explain how Britain will benefit from leaving? It is a necessary precondition for taking control of their country back. But I think what people sometimes overlook in this discussion is that Brexit was merely the opening salvo of this war, and as the ensuing sabotage of Brexit demonstrates, the Globalists are going to fight back with every means at their disposal. At the end of the day, the British Political Establishment is just as big, if not bigger enemy than the EU. Take for instance, just the issue of migration. That was a huge motivating factor in Brexit's passage, but the current British Political Establishment is just as bad on that issue as Merkel and Macron. The British are already a minority in their own capitol city and Manchester will fall within the next few years and that didn't happen because of the EU alone. It was primarily British Politicians and British Politicians who did that. In a way, the EU was the merely the victim of being the first opportunity the British Public had of being able to vote on the Great Replacement. Getting out of the EU doesn't fix all or even most of Britain's problems. To fix the problem, you not only need to exit the EU, but also exit the politicians within the UK itself who share the EU Establishment's mindset. 4 2 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kieran00001 Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 58 minutes ago, Loiner said: Why not call it a day and Leave on the 12th No Deal? Much easier all round and nothing to revoke. If you think we are interested in easy options then obviously revoke and remain would be a lot easier than trying to negotiate a brand new trade deal with our largest exisiting trade partners. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Kieran00001 Posted March 29, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted March 29, 2019 17 minutes ago, lemonjelly said: Still can’t believe that more than half of the UK population were taken in by Farage who is nothing more than one of those annoying bigoted nationalist gits you’d find boring the pants off everyone in the lounge bar of a suburban mock Tudor pub. Sent from my iPhone using Thaivisa Connect 37.2% voted to leave, it was a minority choise as they are about to find out. 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basil B Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 56 minutes ago, lemonjelly said: Still can’t believe that more than half of the UK population were taken in by Farage who is nothing more than one of those annoying bigoted nationalist gits you’d find boring the pants off everyone in the lounge bar of a suburban mock Tudor pub. Sent from my iPhone using Thaivisa Connect Spoonies... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Loiner Posted March 29, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted March 29, 2019 37.2% voted to leave, it was a minority choise as they are about to find out.Will that be after you learn how to do percentage calculations? It was the majority choice.Maybe that’s why you think trade deal negotiations are also too difficult. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Thingamabob Posted March 29, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted March 29, 2019 3 hours ago, Loiner said: PM job up for grabs and Boris will grab it, then do a proper job of Brexit. Boris as PM, out of the EU no deal, Jezza quashed again, Remainers stuffed again, Donald on a second term. What’s not to like? Entirely agree! 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evadgib Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 (edited) Lets hope all artifacts and archives have been removed from the Parliamentary estate. Edited March 29, 2019 by evadgib 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evadgib Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Letseng said: I'm still trying to find a leaver who can explain how Britain will benefit from leaving? So far I just got replies like "we want our own rule, do our own trade deals, fishing etc." Days of the Empire are over, British fishing industry will not go back to a guy with a boat, how many deals has Fox organised: Liechtenstein, Israel, may be Cuba, and 4 other countries of no great consequence. What is going to change as EU rules were integrated into British regulations trade rules etc? These are there to stay otherwise you can't trade with the outside world. This presently ongoing Brexit circus is not going to convince the world that Britain will be a reliable trading partner. Btw I'm not a Brit and I'm not an EU fanatic but ppl should look at reality. Why did Rees Mogg move his company out of Britain and to an EU country? Which was it (ancestral migration); Colluden? Potatoes? or a one way trip via the Old Bailey? Edited March 29, 2019 by evadgib 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basil B Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 Given that she will almost certainly be defeated today, I think we need to look at the indicative vote options again. Quote How MPs voted For Against Defeated by Confirmatory referendum 268 295 27 Customs union 264 272 8 Labour's Brexit plan 237 307 70 Common Market 2.0 188 283 95 Revoking Article 50 to avoid no deal 184 293 109 No-deal exit on 12 April 160 400 240 Malthouse Plan B 139 422 283 EFTA and EEA membership 65 377 312 One thing that was said by many Tory MP's they only voted against... So if you take in to account the fact that many abstainers may well vote in favor of a number of options my prediction is Mondays Indicative debate/vote may well see Ken Clarks Customs Union option and maybe the Common Market 2.0 put to a referendum, with Revoke. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basil B Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 18 minutes ago, evadgib said: Lets hope all artifacts and archives have been removed from the Parliamentary estate. So how many million on this march??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sawadee1947 Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 7 hours ago, Laughing Gravy said: So he is saying what he said months ago and we all know. The deal is dead. Maybe TM and the EU should realise it also but both their arrogance seems won't allow it. It's not about arrogance but stupidity and ignorance of British politics 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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