Early days but has anyone yet to complete an extension of stay based on retirement based on only having a part years record of monthly income in accordance with the  police order by BJ in January 2019 recommending leniency by IO's for this year only?

 

There have been a few reports of people getting them with less than a year of transfers.

22 minutes ago, ubonjoe said:

There have been a few reports of people getting them with less than a year of transfers.

Be nice t know which offices and how far the leniency extended.

I have a friend in Khon Kaen quizzed immigration last week. Advised / asked them if its ok next month when he extends he will only have 6 months foreign deposits. A categorical no. 12 months or nothing

43 minutes ago, Kenny202 said:

I have a friend in Khon Kaen quizzed immigration last week. Advised / asked them if its ok next month when he extends he will only have 6 months foreign deposits. A categorical no. 12 months or nothing

Heard the same in Kanchanaburi,must be 12 months.

I assume you only have the option of phoning the hotline.

I have asked before - has anyone called them and was anything changed because of the call. Not just this problem but anything. If NO there is no point calling. Joe have you seen any.?

1 hour ago, Kenny202 said:

I have a friend in Khon Kaen quizzed immigration last week. Advised / asked them if its ok next month when he extends he will only have 6 months foreign deposits. A categorical no. 12 months or nothing

so I've asked this question before but what's to stop you from leaving , acquiring a new non o visa from an Embassy then starting the extension process again or are they expecting 12 months from 1st time/ fresh extensions ?

16 minutes ago, parryhandy said:

so I've asked this question before but what's to stop you from leaving , acquiring a new non o visa from an Embassy then starting the extension process again or are they expecting 12 months from 1st time/ fresh extensions ?

Many blokes been doing this for a long time. You effectively get 2 years from a fresh OA visa too. I beleive it has to be an embassy in your home country though. Could be wrong. Downside is the cost of return flights home and around 2 weeks wait to obtain police checks medical etc and wait for your visa approval. You also need to show the 800k in the bank although not seasoned

53 minutes ago, Kenny202 said:

Many blokes been doing this for a long time. You effectively get 2 years from a fresh OA visa too. I beleive it has to be an embassy in your home country though. Could be wrong. Downside is the cost of return flights home and around 2 weeks wait to obtain police checks medical etc and wait for your visa approval. You also need to show the 800k in the bank although not seasoned

That's not what I mean. I mean you're applying for a new non o extension based on marriage whereby you cannot be expected to show 12 months because you only have been here 2-3 months.

That's not what I mean. I mean you're applying for a new non o extension based on marriage whereby you cannot be expected to show 12 months because you only have been here 2-3 months.

Good question, i imagine that's what people will need to do if the extension is rejected, just start again with the non imm O

 

9 hours ago, Thailand said:

Early days but has anyone yet to complete an extension of stay based on retirement based on only having a part years record of monthly income in accordance with the  police order by BJ in January 2019 recommending leniency by IO's for this year only?

You may want to follow the OP in the link.  

 

 

So back to the original question.

Has anyone actually completed or has been rejected an extension of stay based on retirement based on the BJ "leniency" letter of Jan 2019?

If so what office and if accepted what was the period of leniency or the reason given for not accepting?

Given the "non-leniency" of the leniency policy, it would appear that the most logical option is to go to an agency. THis was the plan all along. We are dealing with officers of the law who are ready and willing to be bribed. Nothing has really changed. They talk out of both sides of their mouths about visa services trying to skirt the law, while working as hard as they can to drive expats to visa services. As usual, the rule is "show me the money".  Why would anyone take a chance on "leniency" which is like trying to nail jelly to a tree? A different answer from every official you ask is essentially no policy at all and leaves the door open for scams and bribery on an unprecedented scale. We should consider ourselves fortunate that the law can be bought and sold here like any other merchandise.

I don't recall any successes reported here in the last three months but I only read about 2% of the posts.

 

I suspect a lot of people are still using affidavits dated prior to 1/1/19?

 

Challenging to show foreign transfers prior to Dec. 18, 2018 when the changes were announced in Thai? Unless you were prescient.

 

And not sure what's to stop one from exiting, re-entering on a TVE, transitioning in-country to a 90 day then extending that by showing what, four months of transfers? 

 

We should start to see reports of any leniency over the next few months.

 

 

13 hours ago, Thailand said:

Be nice t know which offices and how far the leniency extended.

Might help if you say where you will likely be applying. Jomtiem I believe has accepted some Ext applications based on a partial years income. 

2 minutes ago, jacko45k said:

Might help if you say where you will likely be applying. Jomtiem I believe has accepted some Ext applications based on a partial years income. 

Why would that help, the question was general to determine if the "leniency" is being applied and as yet no actual first person reports one way or another,at least not on this thread.

2 minutes ago, Thailand said:

Why would that help, the question was general to determine if the "leniency" is being applied and as yet no actual first person reports one way or another,at least not on this thread.

It would help in focusing the replies to the needs of people asking the question. You have some second hand responses but as you likely well know, there is going to be inconsistency around Thailand. My response wrt Jomtiem is really based on memory of reading it somewhere on TV. 

If a person asks wrt a specific office the chances of replies one way or the other are more likely. 

 

12 minutes ago, jacko45k said:

It would help in focusing the replies to the needs of people asking the question. You have some second hand responses but as you likely well know, there is going to be inconsistency around Thailand. My response wrt Jomtiem is really based on memory of reading it somewhere on TV. 

If a person asks wrt a specific office the chances of replies one way or the other are more likely. 

The questionwas asked on behalf of all members that may be affected by this "leniency" surely if somebody wanted information regarding a specific office then asking in the local forum would be more sensible?

And still no specific first hand experiences in response to the actual question.

58 minutes ago, mtls2005 said:

Challenging to show foreign transfers prior to Dec. 18, 2018 when the changes were announced in Thai? Unless you were prescient.

I guess I was seeing the into future 7 years ago when I decided to have all of my income transferred into the country every month.

I will have over 2 years showing in my current bank book when I apply for my extension in late July or early August. No need for the annual trek to Bangkok for an affidavit this year.

4 hours ago, Thailand said:

So back to the original question.

 

Has anyone actually completed or has been rejected an extension of stay based on retirement based on the BJ "leniency" letter of Jan 2019?

 

If so what office and if accepted what was the period of leniency or the reason given for not accepting?

 

Can somebody clarify - Is the OP about applying for a retirement extension based on the monthly income method? [edit - okay I got that from the title]

 

And what is this leniency letter being referred to?

 

 

Edited April 3, 20197 yr by attrayant

8 minutes ago, attrayant said:

 

Can somebody clarify - Is the OP about applying for a retirement extension based on the monthly income method? [edit - okay I got that from the title]

 

And what is this leniency letter being referred to?

 

 

 

Maybe they show leniency if they like the look of you and you haven't irritated them straight away, difficult for some i know. Wear your best aftershave

 

 

Well that seems reasonable.  Shame that some offices are thumbing their noses at it.

The tricky part is the phrase "...the officer shall consider the case...", which is probably even more subjective in the native Thai?

 

I think we can expect a high degree of variability based on individual IO, individual office, the number of monthly qualifying transfers preceding the application date (along with when the transfers began)?

 

My absolute wild a** guess: six months of transfers will probably be sufficient at CW, not sure about other Divisions, with one to five months potentially being problematic for an n+1 extension, (i.e. second application onward). In these problematic cases, maybe they'll give some sort of provisional extension requiring the applicant to return in some number of months to show they have maintained the transfers?

1 hour ago, Thailand said:

 

What does strike me as a tad worrying, though, is that I've not been able to track down the original Thai version of this memorandum (which I would have thought that those with less than 12 months of transfers would be strongly advised to arm themselves with when applying for their next retirement extension) on the Immigration Bureau website at https://www.immigration.go.th/announce (assuming, of course, that this is the correct place to look).

At request of OP

 

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