3 hours ago, tebee said:

As a remaniner, of the two, I'd prefer Boris as I reckon he's more likely to go back on his word, Hunt can be  a stubborn fool and dig his heels in - remember the junior doctors ?

 

And  I think Boriss is more likely to result in an early GE.

As a Leaver my concern with Hunt is that he's capable of making an extremely unpopular and controversial decisions and take all the flack for it, like he did with the junior doctors. As thick skinned as they come! So if he decided we have to revoke article 50, or have a 2nd ref he'd just go ahead. 

 

My hope is that Boris appoints smart and strong people around him to get the job done. Without them he'd be useless.  I've rarely heard a politician who can speak for so long without actually saying anything. 

8 minutes ago, CG1 Blue said:

As a Leaver my concern with Hunt is that he's capable of making an extremely unpopular and controversial decision and take all the flack for it, like he did with the junior doctors. As thick skinned as they come! So if he decided we have to revoke article 50, or have a 2nd ref he'd just go ahead. 

 

My hope is that Boris appoints smart and strong people around him to get the job done. Without them he'd be useless.  I've rarely heard a politician who can speak for so long without actually saying anything. 

Funny how we both look at the personalities and past performance of these two from two different perspectives and come to opposing concusions about their likely performance.

 

maybe we should just agree that neither can be trusted !  

32 minutes ago, tebee said:

Funny how we both look at the personalities and past performance of these two from two different perspectives and come to opposing concusions about their likely performance.

 

maybe we should just agree that neither can be trusted !  

Sad but true! 

1 hour ago, CG1 Blue said:

Japan and Canada have FTAs, and they don't have to accept EU rules and supremacy of the EU courts. 

https://blogs.lse.ac.uk/brexit/2017/04/26/why-the-european-court-of-justice-isnt-going-away/

11 minutes ago, simple1 said:

https://blogs.lse.ac.uk/brexit/2017/04/26/why-the-european-court-of-justice-isnt-going-away/

I haven't found a current update during a cursory search but will be most surprized if UK's uncoupling doesn't include full severance of anything that isn't fully controlled from within.

Bo-jo is either a liar or really has no understanding of how these things work. Neithers is a good look for a future PM
 
 

Boris was born into this business, early schooled in Brussels, first time as MP 18 years ago, twice London Mayor, hot favourite for PM, and you think he has no idea how these things work?
More than you and your mate Graham Somebody.

8 minutes ago, Loiner said:

Boris was born into this business, early schooled in Brussels, first time as MP 18 years ago, twice London Mayor, hot favourite for PM, and you think he has no idea how these things work?
More than you and your mate Graham Somebody.

Non of which would preclude him from being a liar, which incidentally we have plenty of evidence of. 

Non of which would preclude him from being a liar, which incidentally we have plenty of evidence of. 

Show me a politician who says he’s not a liar and I’ll show you a liar.
You people are getting so self-righteous and up yourselves about nothing, it must hurt a bit.
I’ll be very happy for Boris to lie, cheat, trick and deceive our way out of the EU and the Remainer created impasse.

3 minutes ago, Loiner said:

Show me a politician who says he’s not a liar and I’ll show you a liar.
You people are getting so self-righteous and up yourselves about nothing, it must hurt a bit.
I’ll be very happy for Boris to lie, cheat, trick and deceive our way out of the EU and the Remainer created impasse.

Be careful.

 

There's a fair chance he's lying to you. 

Be careful.
 
There's a fair chance he's lying to you. 

All those Remainers will be. You may not have noticed it though. Some deeper national idiosyncrasies that you may not be aware of.

19 minutes ago, Loiner said:

All those Remainers will be. You may not have noticed it though. Some deeper national idiosyncrasies that you may not be aware of.

The subject under discussion is not your completely baseless assumptions about my understanding of national idiosyncrasies.

 

Do try to stick to the subject under discussion old chap. 

 

 

 

Baiting, inflammatory post and reply removed.   Please keep it civil.  

 

10 hours ago, tebee said:

Bo-jo is either a liar or really has no understanding of how these things work. Neithers is a good look for a future PM

 

 

He's both.

6 hours ago, Loiner said:

Boris was born into this business, early schooled in Brussels, first time as MP 18 years ago, twice London Mayor, hot favourite for PM, and you think he has no idea how these things work?
More than you and your mate Graham Somebody.

 

 

 

So it's not just me who thinks this......

10 hours ago, evadgib said:

I haven't found a current update during a cursory search but will be most surprized if UK's uncoupling doesn't include full severance of anything that isn't fully controlled from within.

Maybe so, but look how long a FTA between Canada and EU took to complete, seven years, even with a major exclusion, services, which would be critical for the UK to include. 

 

https://www.investec.com/en_gb/focus/brexit/what-does-a-hard-brexit-mean.html

 

Personally I find it extraordinary people are still supporting BJ for PM now that his lies and links to the Far Right, Bannon, have been exposed.

4 minutes ago, simple1 said:

I find it extraordinary people are still supporting BJ

I've always been in favour of BJs

9 hours ago, Loiner said:

Boris was born into this business, early schooled in Brussels, first time as MP 18 years ago, twice London Mayor, hot favourite for PM, and you think he has no idea how these things work?

Most politicians are liars!
Carrier politicians are schooled to tell lies; And being out of touch with the ordinary/common man is one of their distinguished feature!

29 minutes ago, CapraIbex said:

Carrier politicians

Related to Carrier Pigeons?

9 minutes ago, ThaiBunny said:

Related to Carrier Pigeons?

aren't all politicians related to carrier pigeons?  Everywhere they go they leave a mess and a lot of sh*t!

17 minutes ago, ThaiBunny said:

Related to Carrier Pigeons?

whoops-a-daisy

12 minutes ago, wayned said:

aren't all politicians related to carrier pigeons?  Everywhere they go they leave a mess and a lot of sh*t!

Wonderful analogy (this should've been my response).

19 hours ago, simple1 said:

Just as concerning is BJ's lies regarding his liaison with Bannon. IMO anyone communicating with Bannon for advice / support is not suitable to be in a leadership position in HMG.

 

https://www.dw.com/en/boris-johnsons-alleged-ties-with-steve-bannon-exposed/a-49316785

Bannon, Brexit, Breitbart, Cambridge Analytica, Mercers... concerning that these seem to be linked

https://www.bbc.com/news/av/uk-40423629/did-cambridge-analytica-play-a-role-in-the-eu-referendum

I'd vote for Satan to be PM if I thought he could get us out of the EU by 31st October.

 

Do I care if Boris beats his gf unconscious every night? not really.

Presumably if she didn't like it, she could have left with the police.

I'd vote for Satan to be PM if I thought he could get us out of the EU by 31st October.

#metoo
He wouldn’t be any worse than the current PM and would run rings around the EU.

54 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

I'd vote for Satan to be PM if I thought he could get us out of the EU by 31st October.

Nobody is capable of achieving that by 31st Oct, not even God

almighty.

This is just a continuation of the pantomime that is Brexit,

scripted by the EU & UK establishment.

Let's not forget the summer holidays are approaching, everyone

will go on holiday soon after the next PM will be elected.

 

Then, when they all return in September, the EU will start their

Hearings of Commissioners to elect a new Commission President.

That will take things to middle of October.

Nobody will talk to the new UK PM until after that is completed.

In the meantime, the UK Parliament will vote against a no deal

Brexit, and the pantomime continues.

 

 

Just now, sotsira said:

In the meantime, the UK Parliament will vote against a no deal Brexit, and the pantomime continues.

The EU has given the UK an extension until 31/10, at which point the UK automatically is no longer a member of the EU. The only pantomime is UK MPs believing that what they do has any effect

3 minutes ago, sotsira said:

This is just a continuation of the pantomime that is Brexit,

scripted by the EU & UK establishment.

You may be right, but I can't see any reason why Boris would be throwing his MP seat/career away.

If he fails to bring Brexit by 31 October for whatever reason, he'll be unelectable ever again.

So he must think he has a chance of pulling it off.

 

And Farage is waiting eagerly in the wings for a Conservative Brexit fail.

7 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

If he fails to bring Brexit by 31 October for whatever reason, he'll be unelectable ever again

Since Brexit is automatic on 31/10 he's already a success - unless you mean a re-negotiated Brexit agreement

13 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

he'll be undetectable ever again.

He can always go to Mars and hunt for Elvis!