webfact Posted July 3, 2019 Share Posted July 3, 2019 Carnage in Rayong: Caused by a rescue vehicle going through a red light on way to another accident Picture: Thai Rath A rescue pick-up on going fast with its siren wailing on the way to an accident scene caused a far more serious accident at an intersection in Rayong. Muang District police at the Ban Laeng intersection found 11 motorbikes, a rescue foundation pick-up and a car all damaged in the pile up. Four women and two men were taken to hospital. A Mitsubishi Triton driver called Niphon Maneethaopho, 46, said that a rescue vehicle went through a red light fast with its siren blaring. It collided with a Nissan March in the middle of the intersection and plowed into motorcycles waiting next to his vehicle. A Sawang Porn Kuson (Rayong) foundation rescue driver Natchaphon Raksakit said he had been responding to a call about an accident in Nata Khwan. Police are investigating. Source: Thai Rath -- © Copyright Thai Visa News 2019-07-03 Follow Thaivisa on LINE for breaking Thailand news and visa info Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keith101 Posted July 3, 2019 Share Posted July 3, 2019 Emergency vehicles are supposed to slow down before entering intersections to avoid these kind of things from happening the driver should be charged but more than likely nothing will happen TIT . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edgarfriendly Posted July 3, 2019 Share Posted July 3, 2019 so many times these guys cause more problems than they could ever dream of 'helping' with vultures Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marko kok prong Posted July 3, 2019 Share Posted July 3, 2019 AAAH,Thailand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mavideol Posted July 3, 2019 Share Posted July 3, 2019 understand they are supposed to slow down at intersections, however people (walking and/or driving) are supposed to pull over when hearing a rescue vehicle siren Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCC1701A Posted July 3, 2019 Share Posted July 3, 2019 22 minutes ago, webfact said: police at the Ban Laeng intersection found 11 motorbikes, a rescue foundation pick-up and a car all damaged in the pile up. good job team Thailand! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smedly Posted July 3, 2019 Share Posted July 3, 2019 5 minutes ago, Mavideol said: understand they are supposed to slow down at intersections, however people (walking and/or driving) are supposed to pull over when hearing a rescue vehicle siren green means go - red means stop If you are going to go through a red light it needs to be done with extreme caution and safely, not ploughing on through a speed hoping that everyone will stop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matzzon Posted July 3, 2019 Share Posted July 3, 2019 What´s wrong with people on the street and most posters here? Emergency viechles have all the rights in the world to run a red light, if they deem that an emergency is calling for it. They are there to save lives. Blaming the rescue viechle for the carnage is total rubbish. All that hear or see a rescue viechle shall slow down, stop, drive to the side and give way. Nothing more need to be said. 44 minutes ago, keith101 said: Emergency vehicles are supposed to slow down before entering intersections to avoid these kind of things from happening the driver should be charged but more than likely nothing will happen TIT . No, other viechles are supposed to slow down, stop and give way. That´s why nothing ever happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bert got kinky Posted July 3, 2019 Share Posted July 3, 2019 17 minutes ago, Matzzon said: What´s wrong with people on the street and most posters here? Emergency viechles have all the rights in the world to run a red light, if they deem that an emergency is calling for it. They are there to save lives. Blaming the rescue viechle for the carnage is total rubbish. All that hear or see a rescue viechle shall slow down, stop, drive to the side and give way. Nothing more need to be said. No, other viechles are supposed to slow down, stop and give way. That´s why nothing ever happens. Just because emergency vehicles have the right of way does not mean that they can be driven without due care and attention. If a vehicle is halfway across an intersection (on a green light) then the driver of the emergency vehicle should have taken care not to plough into it. a flashing blue/red light and a siren does not give the driver a free pass to drive like a lunatic. There is no excuse for dangerous driving. With decent driver training/education these kind of accidents can be avoided. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samuel Smith Posted July 3, 2019 Share Posted July 3, 2019 Emergency vehicles have to treat red traffic light as a give way sign, & proceed cautiously if clear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinneil Posted July 3, 2019 Share Posted July 3, 2019 44 minutes ago, Matzzon said: What´s wrong with people on the street and most posters here? Emergency viechles have all the rights in the world to run a red light, if they deem that an emergency is calling for it. They are there to save lives. Blaming the rescue viechle for the carnage is total rubbish. All that hear or see a rescue viechle shall slow down, stop, drive to the side and give way. Nothing more need to be said. No, other viechles are supposed to slow down, stop and give way. That´s why nothing ever happens. Nonsense, rescue vehicles should only proceed at a red light if it is safe to do so, not just go screaming through... Thinking i have right of way. The rescue vehicle driver was 100% TO BLAME, nobody else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matzzon Posted July 3, 2019 Share Posted July 3, 2019 19 minutes ago, Bert got kinky said: With decent driver training/education these kind of accidents can be avoided. Sure, now you´re talking about changing the education program for a driver license. Of course, that´s needed and would lower the higth amout of deaths in traffic. It would also stop idiot drivers from driving out half way in an intersection when they hear and see an ambulance, right? So, still have to give way for emergency viechles, and if people are awake in traffic, then they can clearly both see and hear an ambulance before they make the stupid decision to drive half way out in an intersection. I am just amazed over that it actually was 11 motorbikes and one more car involved. The stupidity is on a very high level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CGW Posted July 3, 2019 Share Posted July 3, 2019 53 minutes ago, Matzzon said: What´s wrong with people on the street and most posters here? Emergency viechles have all the rights in the world to run a red light, if they deem that an emergency is calling for it. They are there to save lives. This is Thailand, so I can dress my pick up truck up and go running red lights like it appears this driver did? The majority of these are mere "body snatchers" not regulated government sanctioned and paid for "Emergency vehicles" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike787 Posted July 3, 2019 Share Posted July 3, 2019 Hilarious again!!! What does anyone expect? That thais drive with common sense, responsibility, Hell NO!!!! Look, put it like this....if I was robbing a bank and needed someone capable of driving like a bat out of hell, I'd make sure they were a 100% Thai citizen. Now staying alive - that's going back to the OP and another problem all toghter.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bert got kinky Posted July 3, 2019 Share Posted July 3, 2019 22 minutes ago, Matzzon said: Sure, now you´re talking about changing the education program for a driver license. Of course, that´s needed and would lower the higth amout of deaths in traffic. It would also stop idiot drivers from driving out half way in an intersection when they hear and see an ambulance, right? So, still have to give way for emergency viechles, and if people are awake in traffic, then they can clearly both see and hear an ambulance before they make the stupid decision to drive half way out in an intersection. I am just amazed over that it actually was 11 motorbikes and one more car involved. The stupidity is on a very high level. Sure, now you´re talking about changing the education program for a driver license. No, I'm talking about changing the education program for emergency vehicle drivers, that is who is at fault in this case. In most countries in the world emergency crews go on advanced driver courses but apparently not here. It would also stop idiot drivers from driving out half way in an intersection when they hear and see an ambulance Are you really so blind that you cannot read the part of the story where it is stated that the crash was caused by the emergency vehicle? For Christ sake, it's even in the title. I am just amazed over that it actually was 11 motorbikes and one more car involved. And again, these 11 motorbikes and one vehicle were not doing anything wrong, the accident was caused by the driver of the emergency vehicle shooting through a red light without thinking of anyone else on the road. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ratcatcher Posted July 3, 2019 Share Posted July 3, 2019 42 minutes ago, Matzzon said: What´s wrong with people on the street and most posters here? Emergency viechles have all the rights in the world to run a red light, if they deem that an emergency is calling for it. They are there to save lives. Blaming the rescue viechle for the carnage is total rubbish. All that hear or see a rescue viechle shall slow down, stop, drive to the side and give way. Nothing more need to be said. No, other viechles are supposed to slow down, stop and give way. That´s why nothing ever happens. I am sorry, but have you forgotten which country you are in? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardColeman Posted July 3, 2019 Share Posted July 3, 2019 I would have said the ambulance was touting for business, but with Thai driving that probably is not necessary ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matzzon Posted July 3, 2019 Share Posted July 3, 2019 30 minutes ago, Bert got kinky said: Sure, now you´re talking about changing the education program for a driver license. No, I'm talking about changing the education program for emergency vehicle drivers, that is who is at fault in this case. In most countries in the world emergency crews go on advanced driver courses but apparently not here. It would also stop idiot drivers from driving out half way in an intersection when they hear and see an ambulance Are you really so blind that you cannot read the part of the story where it is stated that the crash was caused by the emergency vehicle? For Christ sake, it's even in the title. I am just amazed over that it actually was 11 motorbikes and one more car involved. And again, these 11 motorbikes and one vehicle were not doing anything wrong, the accident was caused by the driver of the emergency vehicle shooting through a red light without thinking of anyone else on the road. 1. How canyou even starttalking about advanceddriver courses,whentheydo noteven have basic ones, that makes people understand to look for, listen to and give way for emergency viechles. It doesn´t matter how good they drive, if other drivers do not let them. 2. Not blind at all. What I see is that they try to blame the driver of the emergency viechle. If it is in the title or not is totally irrelevant. What is very relevant is that nobody ever care to driv to the side or stop for emgency viechles. 3. Ys they were doing all the wrong that they possibly could. They did not listen to the emergency viechle. They did not look at it. You have a long time to both see and hear, so you have time to give way. The only thing they was looking at, was the green light in the intersection. The driver of the emergency viechle was doing all he possibly could to get to his victim/s as he should, but was stopped by idiots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matzzon Posted July 3, 2019 Share Posted July 3, 2019 54 minutes ago, CGW said: The majority of these are mere "body snatchers" not regulated government sanctioned and paid for "Emergency vehicles" And that give you the right to overlook them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bert got kinky Posted July 3, 2019 Share Posted July 3, 2019 26 minutes ago, Matzzon said: 1. How canyou even starttalking about advanceddriver courses,whentheydo noteven have basic ones, that makes people understand to look for, listen to and give way for emergency viechles. It doesn´t matter how good they drive, if other drivers do not let them. 2. Not blind at all. What I see is that they try to blame the driver of the emergency viechle. If it is in the title or not is totally irrelevant. What is very relevant is that nobody ever care to driv to the side or stop for emgency viechles. 3. Ys they were doing all the wrong that they possibly could. They did not listen to the emergency viechle. They did not look at it. You have a long time to both see and hear, so you have time to give way. The only thing they was looking at, was the green light in the intersection. The driver of the emergency viechle was doing all he possibly could to get to his victim/s as he should, but was stopped by idiots. There is none so blind as those who do not want to see. Ignorance really is bliss, isn't it Matzzon? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Henry Posted July 3, 2019 Share Posted July 3, 2019 What training do these emergency vehicle drivers have.? Do they even do a licence check 40+% of Thai drivers and riders on the road do not have a licence.Emergency vehicle drivers in most countries go through advanced driver training courses and have to do refreshers every few years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
30la Posted July 3, 2019 Share Posted July 3, 2019 Check out all these drivers, many are hooligans, and they think they're F1 drivers! All rescue and ambulance drivers should take a special course! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
30la Posted July 3, 2019 Share Posted July 3, 2019 23 minutes ago, Paul Henry said: What training do these emergency vehicle drivers have.? Do they even do a licence check 40+% of Thai drivers and riders on the road do not have a licence.Emergency vehicle drivers in most countries go through advanced driver training courses and have to do refreshers every few years. Right, it's the biggest problem in emergency Thailand! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
worrab Posted July 3, 2019 Share Posted July 3, 2019 4 hours ago, Matzzon said: What´s wrong with people on the street and most posters here? Emergency viechles have all the rights in the world to run a red light, if they deem that an emergency is calling for it. They are there to save lives. Blaming the rescue viechle for the carnage is total rubbish. All that hear or see a rescue viechle shall slow down, stop, drive to the side and give way. Nothing more need to be said. No, other viechles are supposed to slow down, stop and give way. That´s why nothing ever happens. Matzzon, I would suggest you do not make posts like this unless you are 100% sure of what you are talking about. Emergency vehicles on a call out do NOT have all the rights in the world either here or in any other country. But this being Thailand there is no training given to these so called drivers. When approaching a red light or a Give Way intersection, the emergency vehicle MUST slow down and ensure it is safe to proceed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike787 Posted July 3, 2019 Share Posted July 3, 2019 4 hours ago, Matzzon said: What´s wrong with people on the street and most posters here? Emergency viechles have all the rights in the world to run a red light, if they deem that an emergency is calling for it. They are there to save lives. Blaming the rescue viechle for the carnage is total rubbish. All that hear or see a rescue viechle shall slow down, stop, drive to the side and give way. Nothing more need to be said. How long have you Physically been in Thailand? Are you aware of Thai driving habits and world Stats? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrTuner Posted July 3, 2019 Share Posted July 3, 2019 Body Snatchers Racing Team in action. Call the F&F production team, we got a stuntman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrTuner Posted July 3, 2019 Share Posted July 3, 2019 4 hours ago, smedly said: green means go - red means stop In Thailand it's Red - proceed through, Yellow - pedal to the metal, Green - stop before intersection, there are maniacs plowing through red lights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chazar Posted July 3, 2019 Share Posted July 3, 2019 4 hours ago, Matzzon said: What´s wrong with people on the street and most posters here? Emergency viechles have all the rights in the world to run a red light, if they deem that an emergency is calling for it. They are there to save lives. Blaming the rescue viechle for the carnage is total rubbish. All that hear or see a rescue viechle shall slow down, stop, drive to the side and give way. Nothing more need to be said. No, other viechles are supposed to slow down, stop and give way. That´s why nothing ever happens. Amazed you actually got 3 likes and a laugh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firefox999uk Posted July 3, 2019 Share Posted July 3, 2019 I write this as being an Emergency Vehicle Driver in the UK for over 30 years.... Red traffic lights on the way to an emergency should be treated as a give way sign And proceed only with extreme caution. Most emergency vehicles i see in Thailand do this, some even stop at red lights. The biggest thing when driving to an emergency is to control the adrenaline rush that occurs in the body as it can make you blind to obvious dangers. In the UK, Emergency vehicle drivers have to undergo an intense 10 day refresher course every 2 years which involves driving in all conditions, you are assessed every second of the course. Seems to me that this driver involved in the incident did everything wrong….but can you blame him if he has never been trained….this is the biggest problem in Thailand. Have a Nice Day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Grumpy Posted July 3, 2019 Share Posted July 3, 2019 So he was just driving normally then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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