British far-right activist jailed for contempt of court

[Chomper Higgot]

3 minutes ago, sanemax said:

What was the outcome of those trials ?

Have the already been to court or will they be going to court in the future to face those allegations  ?

Reminding you of the facts stated by the Attorney General was not an invite to wander off topic.

 

 

[sanemax]

2 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Reminding you of the facts stated by the Attorney General was not an invite to wander off topic.

 

Just say that you dont know the answer 

[Chomper Higgot]

5 minutes ago, sanemax said:

Just say that you dont know the answer 

Will, ‘I can’t be bothered to look’ do?

[Chomper Higgot]

Here’s an uncomfortable fact.

 

These vile rapists still have a right to appeal.

 

As someone who defends the right to a fair trial and the right to appeal where there is good reason, I firmly hope Yaxley-Lennon has not provided cause for appeal.

 

[sanemax]

3 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Will, ‘I can’t be bothered to look’ do?

Yes, that fair enough .

I dont know either and I cannot be bothered to look either 

But , if they didnt face any other trials , it would be a factor in this (Court) case

[Kadilo]

1 minute ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Here’s an uncomfortable fact.

 

These vile rapists still have a right to appeal.

 

As someone who defends the right to a fair trial and the right to appeal where there is good reason, I firmly hope Yaxley-Lennon has not provided cause for appeal.

 

I read one of them has already lodged an appeal on the basis of his actions. 

[TopDeadSenter]

1 minute ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Here’s an uncomfortable fact.

And here is another one. Tommy's brave journalism has been deemed a worse crime than the actual molestation of children, and punished way more severely. You just couldn't make this madness up. 

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2583243/Islamic-teacher-sexually-abused-girl-11-taught-Koran-spared-jail-hes-benefits-wife-doesnt-speak-English.html

[RuamRudy]

31 minutes ago, Orton Rd said:

No you are wrong, the rapists involved had already been convicted and the collapsing the trial is a nonsense. When was the last time a trial all but over was collapsed by somebody reporting on it in the street when no reporting restrictions had been posted at court?

An alternative question to ask might be 'when was the last time a journalist was convicted of contempt of court?'. The fact that such cases are few and far between could be more to do with the responsible nature of proper journalist - the predicament Yaxley-Lennon finds himself in is less to do with deep state interference and more to do with a dull-witted conman thinking he was cleverer than he actually is. 

[sanemax]

2 minutes ago, Kadilo said:

I read one of them has already lodged an appeal on the basis of his actions. 

Where did you read that and which one has launched the appeal ?

[generealty]

Regardless of if you like the guy or not. everybody should be concerned about the erosion of freedom of speech in the UK lately. It will only get worse unless people start to stand up for this and petition local MP's. These politicians might also be implicated in these sort of things like they were with Ted Heath- high up Police Offices/MP's and god knows who else that kept burying it until after his death, and his was not only raping of little boys but some were even murdered. So how is that for you ? Or would you prefer the likes of TR and others stand up and bring it to notice of the general public ?.

[JAG]

On 7/11/2019 at 7:51 PM, brewsterbudgen said:

A nasty piece of work, back where he belongs.

Sent from my SM-A500F using Tapatalk
 

I dislike the fellow, and I find his political views disturbing, odious even. He has rather foolishly, brought this on himself.

 

On 7/11/2019 at 8:12 PM, Chomper Higgot said:

Common criminal suffers the consequences of his own actions.

 

What’s not to like?!

I don't like the fact that he has been convicted by judges, and sentenced to a significant jail term without the benefit of a trial in front of his peers, a jury. That right to trial by jury is a cornerstone of the British judicial system. We (quite rightly) condemn other countries when they take such actions; especially in cases which have political undertones.

 

I don't like the fact (as I understand it) that his two jail sentences are to be served consecutively, when many who receive multiple jail sentences (often for more henious crimes) serve them concurrently.

 

I don't like the fact that the lassitude shown

and incompetent/inadequate protection given to many of the most vulnerable children under the supervision of the Social Services, and any possible political or racial undertones in the inadequacy of that protection, is not really being effectively investigated.

 

I don't like the fact that the ongoing (and long overdue) court proceedings are being used as a justification to further prorogue or carry out such investigations in camera.

 

Whilst Robinson's "journalism" went some way to exposing this, I am suspicious of his motives. I don't think that they merit nine months in jail, effectively handed down by a summary trial.

Edited July 13, 2019 by JAG

[Chomper Higgot]

14 minutes ago, TopDeadSenter said:

And here is another one. Tommy's brave journalism has been deemed a worse crime than the actual molestation of children, and punished way more severely. You just couldn't make this madness up. 

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2583243/Islamic-teacher-sexually-abused-girl-11-taught-Koran-spared-jail-hes-benefits-wife-doesnt-speak-English.html

That’s a misrepresentation of fact, not a fact.

 

But hardly surprising given the source.

[Chomper Higgot]

10 minutes ago, generealty said:

Regardless of if you like the guy or not. everybody should be concerned about the erosion of freedom of speech in the UK lately. It will only get worse unless people start to stand up for this and petition local MP's. These politicians might also be implicated in these sort of things like they were with Ted Heath- high up Police Offices/MP's and god knows who else that kept burying it until after his death, and his was not only raping of little boys but some were even murdered. So how is that for you ? Or would you prefer the likes of TR and others stand up and bring it to notice of the general public ?.

I prefer court cases to proceed without external influence in order that juries return safe verdicts, whichever way the verdict goes.

[7by7]

17 hours ago, Hogs said:

Try and educate yourself before he even got into this he was a successful real estate investor with 7 properties then he started the EDL  

No, he wasn't. He managed a tanning salon in Luton when he co founded the EDL.

 

17 hours ago, Hogs said:

Nice try but he was a self made man who now has to spend hundreds of thousands on BS court cases 

Self made? Yep, the cash his gullible supporters send him do indeed pay for his luxury lifestyle. Not to mention the £2000 per month he received from Quilliam and other large amounts from America.

 

From The Sun; hardly a softy, leftie, PC paper! GAME OVER Who is Tommy Robinson and what is his real name? Former EDL founder and far-right activist

 

Of course, this is just the latest of a string of convictions, many for violence, going back to 2005 when he received a 12 month sentence for assaulting an off duty police officer who intervened to prevent him from beating up his girlfriend. Not the stitch up due to his so called activism as he and his supporters now claim as, despite his being a BNP member at the time, he was not politically active.

 

Apart from these two contempt convictions, none of those others can be remotely said to have anything to do with what he calls political activity. They are for violence or fraud.

 

If Yaxley-Lennon wants to stop paying to defend himself in court then the solution is simple. All he has to do is stop breaking the law. 

[7by7]

16 hours ago, sanemax said:

Repeat all you like, its the duty of the court staff to clearly write all Court reporting restrictions on the court door along with a list of all the other court details and I do believe that Tommy did indeed inquire about any reporting  restrictions and he wasnt informed that there were any in place 

 

 

He originally pleaded guilty. Why?

 

He admitted at this latest trial that he asked if restrictions were still in place. Why if he thought there were none?

 

He admits that when he asked he was told to check with the court office. He admits that he didn't do so. Why not?

 

This whole episode is yet another publicity stunt by Yaxley-Lennon. He's used to prison, and spending a few more weeks inside will get the gullible to send him even more money to fund his luxury lifestyle once he's released.

 

 

[7by7]

12 hours ago, yogi100 said:

Decent normal people in any country who oppose paedophilia should be praising TR not celebrating his imprisonment. 

 

Decent normal people in any and all countries do not praise a man who uses the suffering of children to con the gullible into sending him large amounts of money.

 

Fact: Yaxley-Lennon has never exposed a single paedophile.

 

He has defended one, Richard Price, though: Paedo rap for EDL leader.

 

Even when a different EDL mate, Leigh McMillan, was convicted of grooming and raping a young school girl Yaxley-Lennon didn't condemn him: The EDL have paedophiles in their ranks but Tommy Robinson evidently doesn’t condemn them.

[7by7]

11 hours ago, nontabury said:

 

 

They were not exposed by the authorities, far from it. They were exposed by private individuals ( not T.R)and this was then picked up by some media.

What the authorities did do,was to try and sweep everything under the carpet,for the benefit of race relations.

 In the late 1990's and early 2000; yes; shamefully. Just as massive child abuse by whites, especially Christian priests, was also swept under the carpet. Why don't you Yaxley-Lennon supporters ever mention that?

 

But not since. 

 

Whoever exposed these men, however they were exposed and brought to justice; Yaxley-Lennon had absolutely nothing to do with it.

[7by7]

10 hours ago, nontabury said:

 

While agreeing with you about the historical abuse by white( and possible Black) Christian priests, and the likes of Saville. They unlike the Pakistani Muslims did not hunt in packs,seeking out young vulnerable girls, who were not of their religion.

 They groomed White/ Black/ Mixed race, girls of other religions, but not Muslims, in other words Infidels 

 

 

Christian priests did not have to hunt for their victims; they were already presented to them by local authorities in children's homes!

 

The figures show that some, albeit a small number, of the victims of these gangs were Muslim girls, just as the figures show that some members of the gangs were white non Muslims.

 

But what was the reason why the majority of victims were white non Muslims?

 

All the victims were chosen because they were vulnerable and, more importantly, approachable. 

 

I am not trying to shift the blame upon the victims in any way, even partially. But it is a fact that young non Muslim girls are far more likely to be outside alone or in groups and so vulnerable to being approached than are young Muslim girls.

 

 

[7by7]

33 minutes ago, 7by7 said:

17 hours ago, sanemax said:

Repeat all you like, its the duty of the court staff to clearly write all Court reporting restrictions on the court door along with a list of all the other court details and I do believe that Tommy did indeed inquire about any reporting  restrictions and he wasnt informed that there were any in place 

 

 

He originally pleaded guilty. Why?

 

He admitted at this latest trial that he asked if restrictions were still in place. Why if he thought there were none?

 

He admits that when he asked he was told to check with the court office. He admits that he didn't do so. Why not?

 

This whole episode is yet another publicity stunt by Yaxley-Lennon. He's used to prison, and spending a few more weeks inside will get the gullible to send him even more money to fund his luxury lifestyle once he's released.

 Further to the above, I had a sneaking suspicion, now confirmed, that in his live stream Yaxley-Lennon admitted that he knew he was breaking the reporting restriction.

 

His exact words being “There is a reporting restriction on this case … I have to be super careful,” (Source)

[7by7]

1 hour ago, Orton Rd said:

No you are wrong, the rapists involved had already been convicted and the collapsing the trial is a nonsense. When was the last time a trial all but over was collapsed by somebody reporting on it in the street when no reporting restrictions had been posted at court?

As previously said; Yaxley-Lennon admitted he knew he was breaking reporting restrictions.

 

He admits it in his live stream.

 

He admitted it when he pleaded guilty.; although he later changed his mind about that, doubtless when reminded the publicity surrounding a retrial would generate more cash for him from the gullible.

 

He admitted in this latest trial that when he asked if the restrictions were still in place he was told to ask in the court office, but he chose not to do so.

 

Have a read of Tommy Robinson: How close EDL founder came to causing collapse of Huddersfield grooming gang trial.

 

You will see that the defense team tried to get the trial halted on the grounds that the jury must have seen or at least heard of a video which had received over 3.5 million hits.

Quote

Court transcripts obtained from the grooming trial by The Independent show that on 29 May 2018, Judge Marson told defence lawyers a juror had “mentioned Tommy Robinson” as they returned for the first day of deliberations following his imprisonment.

 

Lawyers defending members of the gang then argued it was “inconceivable” that jurors had not seen Robinson’s live stream, which would prejudice them against their clients.

 

You will see that, despite @Hogs attempts to convince us otherwise, the judge at Yaxley-Lennon's first Leeds contempt trial said 

Quote

When Robinson was brought before him on 25 May 2018, Judge Marson explained that he made the reporting restriction to “ensure the integrity of the trials”.

“You are entitled to your views, you are entitled to express them within the law, but you are not entitled to express them until the prohibition was lifted,” he said. “There has been a significant risk to this trial.”

 

 

 

[7by7]

1 hour ago, sanemax said:

What was the outcome of those trials ?

Have the already been to court or will they be going to court in the future to face those allegations  ?

 

All the connected trials are over, which is why the reporting restrictions have now been lifted.

 

The men were all convicted.

 

[7by7]

2 hours ago, Orton Rd said:

<snip>

the rapists involved had already been convicted and the collapsing the trial is a nonsense.

 

2 hours ago, sanemax said:

Yes, the defendants even had their bags packed ready to take to jail when Tommy greeted them outside

 

1 hour ago, simple1 said:

Why are you and others constantly posting misinformation, As very clearly reported in multiple media outlets...

 

The footage, in breach of a reporting ban, was then livestreamed from outside Leeds crown court while the jury was considering its verdict.

 Indeed, they are both wrong.

 

Yaxley-Lennon videoed the men going into court, not coming out, and clearly stated in his live stream: "the jury are making their verdicts now,”

 

It seems obvious that despite being fans of his, Orton Rd and sanemax haven't watched the video, let alone read any reports on the matter.

[RuamRudy]

1 hour ago, TopDeadSenter said:

And here is another one. Tommy's brave journalism has been deemed a worse crime than the actual molestation of children, and punished way more severely. You just couldn't make this madness up. 

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2583243/Islamic-teacher-sexually-abused-girl-11-taught-Koran-spared-jail-hes-benefits-wife-doesnt-speak-English.html

Any idea why Yaxley-Lennon launched the Free Richard Price campaign in 2011? Price had been jailed for possession of child pornography, yet the brave defender of the nation's children thought that he should, in this instance, stand up for the 'rights' of the culprit. 

 

In fact, there are many of his friends and acquaintances who have criminal convictions for sexual offences against children, yet he is strangely quiet about them.

 

Here is a list detailing 13 of his fellow EDL / BNP thugs who have been convicted of sexual offences against children - where was Yaxley-Lennon's outrage at their behaviour?

[7by7]

1 hour ago, TopDeadSenter said:

And here is another one. Tommy's brave journalism has been deemed a worse crime than the actual molestation of children, and punished way more severely. You just couldn't make this madness up. 

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2583243/Islamic-teacher-sexually-abused-girl-11-taught-Koran-spared-jail-hes-benefits-wife-doesnt-speak-English.html

Isn't the perceived wisdom of you Yaxley-Lennon supporters that Muslim men only abuse non Muslim girls?

 

BTW, I agree with the person quoted in the report

Quote

A family friend condemned the sentence. ‘This is a total disgrace,’ said the friend, who asked not to be named.

‘What type of message does this send out to paedophiles? He should be behind bars for this type of abuse. We are all horrified."

 

[petemoss]

1 hour ago, generealty said:

Regardless of if you like the guy or not. everybody should be concerned about the erosion of freedom of speech in the UK lately. It will only get worse unless people start to stand up for this and petition local MP's. These politicians might also be implicated in these sort of things like they were with Ted Heath- high up Police Offices/MP's and god knows who else that kept burying it until after his death, and his was not only raping of little boys but some were even murdered. So how is that for you ? Or would you prefer the likes of TR and others stand up and bring it to notice of the general public ?.

Do you mean freedom of speech or freedom to spout racial hatred? Legal in the US but not in the UK, thankfully.

 

Others have brought everything that Tommy Islam rants about, to the public attention, before he did. He has exposed not one single person.

 

As much as I dislike Ted Heath and even publicly demonstrated that to him personally, back in the day, I have never heard of any serious accusations that the boys he went with were either unwilling or underage. Suggestions that he had them murdered are, quite frankly, ridiculous. Maybe you are confusing him with Jeremy Thorpe, whose bizarre sexual antics were fully exposed in the media at that time.

Edited July 13, 2019 by petemoss

[7by7]

1 hour ago, generealty said:

Regardless of if you like the guy or not. everybody should be concerned about the erosion of freedom of speech in the UK lately. It will only get worse unless people start to stand up for this and petition local MP's. These politicians might also be implicated in these sort of things like they were with Ted Heath- high up Police Offices/MP's and god knows who else that kept burying it until after his death, and his was not only raping of little boys but some were even murdered. So how is that for you ? Or would you prefer the likes of TR and others stand up and bring it to notice of the general public ?.

 How many more times; Yaxley-Lennon brought nothing to the notice of the public.

 

He has never exposed a single paedophile; not one.

 

As you feel that freedom speech means it's ok to name the accused when so doing could jeopardise this and/or future trials; what is your opinion on the anonymity of the child victims?

 

Does your version of freedom of speech mean it's ok to name them?

[Kadilo]

13 minutes ago, RuamRudy said:

Any idea why Yaxley-Lennon launched the Free Richard Price campaign in 2011? Price had been jailed for possession of child pornography, yet the brave defender of the nation's children thought that he should, in this instance, stand up for the 'rights' of the culprit. 

 

In fact, there are many of his friends and acquaintances who have criminal convictions for sexual offences against children, yet he is strangely quiet about them.

 

Here is a list detailing 13 of his fellow EDL / BNP thugs who have been convicted of sexual offences against children - where was Yaxley-Lennon's outrage at their behaviour?

https://mobile.twitter.com/Wazzapurch/status/1149271412588339201

 

......and a few more

[jayboy]

1 hour ago, petemoss said:

 I have never heard of any serious accusations that the boys he went with were either unwilling or underage

There is absolutely no evidence he "went with boys" at all so you are either lying or easily duped.

Edited July 13, 2019 by jayboy

[sanemax]

1 hour ago, 7by7 said:

 

All the connected trials are over, which is why the reporting restrictions have now been lifted.

 

The men were all convicted.

 

Could you post a link to the subsequent trials ?

[sanemax]

1 hour ago, 7by7 said:

 

 

 Indeed, they are both wrong.

 

Yaxley-Lennon videoed the men going into court, not coming out, and clearly stated in his live stream: "the jury are making their verdicts now,”

 

It seems obvious that despite being fans of his, Orton Rd and sanemax haven't watched the video, let alone read any reports on the matter.

Defendants are only bought back to Court AFTER the juries have come to a verdict  , as they could be deliberating for days