16 hours ago, CGW said:

Obviously, you should get out and about more, go for a drive ???? - start with Shanghai to Qidong............

 

I did state roads were good (its an undeniably fact - you can all argue as much as you want and come up with some silly western survey to back up "facts" ) - I never said they were good with drains, they seem to forget about them in a lot of areas. What they have achieved with their infrastructure in the past 30 years is monumental, as Jack Mah stated, China has invested the same amount in their infrastructure in recent years as USA has in war mongering - 15 trillion was the number he quoted.

came down to guangdong, guangxi, hainan, jiangxi, fujian, Hunan just to mention a few (drove from guangdong  to Shanhai & Zhejiang 2 years ago and not impressed either,  never been to Beijing but my in law says it's the same sh..) and you will get the point... as for investment in the past 30 years, sure they didn't had anything worth calling a road, any minimal improvement would like like a major event

13 hours ago, Reigntax said:

They have invented completely clear structural glass?

was in guangdong at that period, in Zhongshan, Zhuhai, Foshan and all cities around the pearl delta had roads/bridges completely destroyed but (as CGW said above What they have achieved with their infrastructure in the past 30 years is monumental) could be called as a planing disaster, when in China the CCTV government TV news doesn't show this type of negative images, 

On 7/18/2019 at 11:24 AM, Burma Bill said:

Last month - June 14 2019 at Heyuan in Guangdong Province, China. Bridge over the Dongiang River:-

 

After a week of torrential rain that killed 63 people and swept away almost 4000 dwellings, yes.

 

Did you forget that bit?

32 minutes ago, Mavideol said:

was in guangdong at that period, in Zhongshan, Zhuhai, Foshan and all cities around the pearl delta had roads/bridges completely destroyed but (as CGW said above What they have achieved with their infrastructure in the past 30 years is monumental) could be called as a planing disaster, when in China the CCTV government TV news doesn't show this type of negative images, 

Yup, one man's extreme weather is another man's planning disaster.

 

Here's the Chinese government not reporting on negative images:

 

http://www.globaltimes.cn/content/1154306.shtml

4 minutes ago, Traubert said:

After a week of torrential rain that killed 63 people and swept away almost 4000 dwellings, yes.

 

Did you forget that bit?

it just shows the quality/skills of their construction, if they can't stand 1 week of heavy rain ???? 1,000's years ago Romans built roads and bridges they still stand after many weeks of rain, tornados, earthquakes and so forth,

did you forget about it

3 minutes ago, Traubert said:

Yup, one man's extreme weather is another man's planning disaster.

 

Here's the Chinese government not reporting on negative images:

 

http://www.globaltimes.cn/content/1154306.shtml

didn't see any mention to CCTV news only a couple lines in English on a news paper that's not from China

1 hour ago, Traubert said:

After a week of torrential rain that killed 63 people and swept away almost 4000 dwellings, yes.

 

Did you forget that bit?

No, but most of the tragic deaths and destruction occurred in the mountains and countryside. A bridge of this importance in a major city should have been constructed to withstand such forces - one arch appears not to have been so! 

Well, the Nation could have had a proof reader look at the article prior to posting ... terrible piece of writing.

11 hours ago, Mavideol said:

didn't see any mention to CCTV news only a couple lines in English on a news paper that's not from China

Then you should have watched CCTV13. The News Channel.

 

Global Times is a subsidiary newspaper of the People's Daily and is most certainly a Chinese newspaper.

 

Can I ask how you covered around 55,000km in your tour of Chinese provinces, given that the infrastructure is so poor?

10 hours ago, Burma Bill said:

No, but most of the tragic deaths and destruction occurred in the mountains and countryside. A bridge of this importance in a major city should have been constructed to withstand such forces - one arch appears not to have been so! 

Then maybe the focus was elsewhere, hey? The bridge was built in the 1930's. Engineering was much different them, as was the weather.

 

It's not a major city in Chinese terms. Don't worry, heads rolled for the lack of foresight within the provincial and city government. They always do.

12 hours ago, Mavideol said:

it just shows the quality/skills of their construction, if they can't stand 1 week of heavy rain ???? 1,000's years ago Romans built roads and bridges they still stand after many weeks of rain, tornados, earthquakes and so forth,

did you forget about it

Pompei.